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Re: The next order of business for OB

Posted: Tue October 13, 2015 11:36 pm
by zeb
McParadigm wrote:but I'd be perfectly happy if everybody just followed those whispered words of wisdom, and let it be (not naked).
:haha:
McParadigm wrote:Besides that, I think the era of the album is ending anyway
What makes you think that, 'digm?

Re: The next order of business for OB

Posted: Tue October 13, 2015 11:41 pm
by bart
If you liked liner notes, you'll love the internet!!

Re: The next order of business for OB

Posted: Tue October 13, 2015 11:44 pm
by LoathedVermin72
bart wrote:If you liked liner notes, you'll love the internet!!
:lol: :lol:

Re: The next order of business for OB

Posted: Wed October 14, 2015 12:21 am
by McParadigm
zeb wrote:
McParadigm wrote:Besides that, I think the era of the album is ending anyway
What makes you think that, 'digm?
I don't know how else to read it. Streaming and digital downloads focus almost exclusively on singles. The scene today looks more like 1961 then it does anything else. Most of the famous "musicians" are just interpreters and entertainers, and bands that aren't 20 or 30 years past their peak are selling five or six times the number of singles that they are albums. The last two Fall Out Boy records have sold a combined 7 million in digital singles sales...and barely 1.2 million records (again, combined).

Maybe we will get back to a point similar to the pre-Elvis era, where an earthier, more potent sound is developed with hardly anyone noticing (and not much in the way of sales), and then future wild hearts get turned on to their Lonesome and Blue by a friend in the know. Or maybe it isn't that cyclical, and entirely different stories are set to play out.

Re: The next order of business for OB

Posted: Wed October 14, 2015 12:35 am
by zeb
All good points but I think the album as an artistic statement has a decade or two left in it.

Re: The next order of business for OB

Posted: Wed October 14, 2015 12:44 am
by BurtReynolds
yeah it seems that artists still want to make albums. Maybe there is a trend towards EPs, but even that isn't taking over.

Album releases still make a bigger splash with the public than an individual song release does. Album releases are events. Individual song releases don't seem to make much of a dent.

Re: The next order of business for OB

Posted: Wed October 14, 2015 12:46 am
by Strat
I dont think albums are going to go away. Pop culture will pop culture but i think albums will always be around.

Re: The next order of business for OB

Posted: Wed October 14, 2015 12:48 am
by bodysnatcher
Everything goes in cycles. One day there will be double-album rock operas again.

Re: The next order of business for OB

Posted: Wed October 14, 2015 1:00 am
by Birds in Hell
Strat wrote:I dont think albums are going to go away. Pop culture will pop culture but i think albums will always be around.
I agree, I don't think the idea of presenting a selection of songs together in some way is something that will come to an end.

Re: The next order of business for OB

Posted: Wed October 14, 2015 1:06 am
by LoathedVermin72
BurtReynolds wrote:Album releases still make a bigger splash with the public than an individual song release does. Album releases are events. Individual song releases don't seem to make much of a dent.
I'm not sure this is true.

Re: The next order of business for OB

Posted: Wed October 14, 2015 1:11 am
by McParadigm
Beg pardon, friends, but I didn't say the album was going away. I said that today's market more resembles the pre-65 era where albums were second in relevance to individual songs. And I expect that will exponentiation, as a new generation of musicians grows up who is acclimated to that world.

Especially in the under-25 crowd, full albums get very little notice compared to singles. As in the pre-Beatles/Dylan era, less and less attention is paid to full album releases.

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Re: The next order of business for OB

Posted: Wed October 14, 2015 1:12 am
by BurtReynolds
Seems like the 80s were similar: Much more emphasis on the hit singles, but they are still surrounded by enough filler to make it an album.

Re: The next order of business for OB

Posted: Wed October 14, 2015 1:14 am
by Kevin Davis
Have any significant artists abandoned albums altogether for the singles format? This is a legitimate question. I just wonder if the "albums are dying" thing is something that there's tangible evidence for, or if it's just a conclusion that people have jumped to based on modern methods of music consumption.

edit: McP's post above kind of answers my question. So basically, we expect they will continue to be made, but not bought?

Re: The next order of business for OB

Posted: Wed October 14, 2015 1:15 am
by McParadigm
BurtReynolds wrote:Seems like the 80s were similar: Much more emphasis on the hit singles, but they are still surrounded by enough filler to make it an album.
Maybe there was more emphasis on singles, but the 80's were a part of the build up of album sales that peaked in the very late 90's and was beyond anything before or since (and was a part of why everybody wanted to remaster and rerelease during that time).

LPs sold better in the 80's than anytime prior.

Re: The next order of business for OB

Posted: Wed October 14, 2015 1:43 am
by Strat
Oh c'mon. Who owns a bon jovi album?

Re: The next order of business for OB

Posted: Wed October 14, 2015 1:48 am
by BurtReynolds
truly the music industry is livin' on a prayer.

Re: The next order of business for OB

Posted: Wed October 14, 2015 1:54 am
by doug rr
BurtReynolds wrote:truly the music industry is livin' on a prayer.
they'll go out in a blaze of glory

Re: The next order of business for OB

Posted: Wed October 14, 2015 1:57 am
by i got bugs
I'm too cheap to pay 15 a month for sirius xm

Re: The next order of business for OB

Posted: Wed October 14, 2015 1:58 am
by BurtReynolds
doug rr wrote:
BurtReynolds wrote:truly the music industry is livin' on a prayer.
they'll go out in a blaze of glory
Napster really was Bad Medicine for the music industry.

Re: The next order of business for OB

Posted: Wed October 14, 2015 2:00 am
by doug rr
BurtReynolds wrote:
doug rr wrote:
BurtReynolds wrote:truly the music industry is livin' on a prayer.
they'll go out in a blaze of glory
Napster really was Bad Medicine for the music industry.
you are correct...have a nice day, burt