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Re: Sharing Cinematic Values #4: McParadigm
Posted: Tue May 31, 2016 4:21 pm
by epilogue
LoathedVermin72 wrote:durdencommatyler wrote:LoathedVermin72 wrote:bada wrote:The Disney evil empire thing is pretty lame. The Gummi Bears never hurt anyone.
They are responsible for Marvel and The Force Awakens, so they're pretty much Satan incarnate in my eyes.
Well, Marvel was gonna Marvel with or without Disney.
Disney was smart enough to buy Marvel but I don't think they're responsible for Marvel. They were shrewd enough to recognize an investment opportunity.
movies are basically stocks
It's called the film industry for a reason. It was never any different.
Re: Sharing Cinematic Values #4: McParadigm
Posted: Tue May 31, 2016 4:22 pm
by LoathedVermin72
durdencommatyler wrote:LoathedVermin72 wrote:durdencommatyler wrote:LoathedVermin72 wrote:bada wrote:The Disney evil empire thing is pretty lame. The Gummi Bears never hurt anyone.
They are responsible for Marvel and The Force Awakens, so they're pretty much Satan incarnate in my eyes.
Well, Marvel was gonna Marvel with or without Disney.
Disney was smart enough to buy Marvel but I don't think they're responsible for Marvel. They were shrewd enough to recognize an investment opportunity.
movies are basically stocks
It's called the film industry for a reason. It was never any different.
i never said otherwise
Re: Sharing Cinematic Values #4: McParadigm
Posted: Tue May 31, 2016 4:25 pm
by Strat
LoathedVermin72 wrote:durdencommatyler wrote:LoathedVermin72 wrote:durdencommatyler wrote:Furthermore, if we are calling these movies nostalgic soap opera stuff (the soap opera part I definitely agree with) how do you reconcile wanting to see some of them, being excited by them, calling at least one of them one of the 100 greatest films of all time, with your otherwise total disdain for the genre?
Because the problem isn't necessarily inherent in the material - the problem is in the execution, and in what people want out of these movies, as proved over and over through box office and reception.
Interesting. Is it fair to say then that your problem isn't with modern cinema but with modern audiences? Obviously, audience demand affects the supply.
I think it's a combination of both. Obviously, studios are going to try give audiences what they want. But I don't think they're blameless in this, either. It's hard for me not to loathe Disney for the inescapable onslaught of soulless, meaningless art-product they continually hoist on global pop culture. I think it's foolish to discount the very real impact this can have on public consciousness and the artistic well-being of society, even if there's an element of "giving them what they want" at play. Their influence is so absolute that I don't even know what we can do to combat at this point. They practically have a monopoly on imagination.
The Force can have a strong influence on the week minded
Re: Sharing Cinematic Values #4: McParadigm
Posted: Tue May 31, 2016 4:32 pm
by epilogue
LoathedVermin72 wrote:durdencommatyler wrote:LoathedVermin72 wrote:durdencommatyler wrote:LoathedVermin72 wrote:bada wrote:The Disney evil empire thing is pretty lame. The Gummi Bears never hurt anyone.
They are responsible for Marvel and The Force Awakens, so they're pretty much Satan incarnate in my eyes.
Well, Marvel was gonna Marvel with or without Disney.
Disney was smart enough to buy Marvel but I don't think they're responsible for Marvel. They were shrewd enough to recognize an investment opportunity.
movies are basically stocks
It's called the film industry for a reason. It was never any different.
i never said otherwise
I know. I was saying it with a resigned sigh of unfortunate agreement, friend.
Re: Sharing Cinematic Values #4: McParadigm
Posted: Wed August 24, 2016 4:52 am
by Kaius
This was good. What is art? What makes an artist good? Was this conversation art? What made this conversation good?
Re: Sharing Cinematic Values #4: McParadigm
Posted: Thu August 25, 2016 4:15 pm
by epilogue
McParadigm. McParadigm made this conversation great.
Re: Sharing Cinematic Values #4: McParadigm
Posted: Thu August 25, 2016 4:16 pm
by LoathedVermin72
durdencommatyler wrote:McParadigm. McParadigm made this conversation great.
Why you keep shitting on me like this
Re: Sharing Cinematic Values #4: McParadigm
Posted: Thu August 25, 2016 4:19 pm
by epilogue
LoathedVermin72 wrote:durdencommatyler wrote:McParadigm. McParadigm made this conversation great.
Why you keep shitting on me like this
It was a great interview, Jordan. You should be proud of all you do for RM and for this series.
Re: Sharing Cinematic Values #4: McParadigm
Posted: Thu August 25, 2016 4:20 pm
by tragabigzanda
Steve Albini wrote:Whenever there's active promotion on the part of somebody else, whenever I see somebody all dolled up for a fancy photograph and someone's handing out flyers or whenever there's active promotion for something like that, as an imposition on my day, I hate all those people and I want them to fail. I have a visceral reaction to advertising and promotion. There's just something about salesmanship that grates on me on a very base level and I react very negatively towards it. I want those people to suffer and I want their enterprises to fail.
Re: Sharing Cinematic Values #4: McParadigm
Posted: Thu August 25, 2016 4:20 pm
by LoathedVermin72
tragabigzanda wrote:Fuck you, LV
This is all I've ever wanted you to say
Re: Sharing Cinematic Values #4: McParadigm
Posted: Thu August 25, 2016 4:23 pm
by epilogue
I'd listen to McParadigm do a weekly podcast that's just him drinking scotch and talking about whatever pops into his mind. Or maybe listening to him log on and read RM threads and say his responses outloud.
