Re: Anti-Trump fascists attack in Berkeley
Posted: Tue March 07, 2017 2:39 am
Keep ignoring reality, it's really helping your cause.cutuphalfdead wrote:Oh, a meme. My bad.
Keep ignoring reality, it's really helping your cause.cutuphalfdead wrote:Oh, a meme. My bad.
Just because one douche burnt a sign doesn't mean I think Berkeley should have let a bigot incite a crowd with his rhetoric and put undocumented immigrants in their community in very real physical danger.PHATJ wrote:Keep ignoring reality, it's really helping your cause.cutuphalfdead wrote:Oh, a meme. My bad.
I wasn't calling you a xenophobic asshole. I was saying the xenophobic assholes that right-wing reactionaries incite with racist rhetoric just use the "anti-illegal immigration" argument to push an agenda of hatred and white nationalism.PHATJ wrote:Don't be retarded. I fully support legal immigrants, and I've literally never met anyone that doesn't. Illegal immigration hurts everyone, but it especially hurts the poor. Why do you hate the poor?LoathedVermin72 wrote:Yes, xenophobic assholes are always very careful to make this distinction.PHATJ wrote:It's not anti immigration, it's anti ILLEGAL IMMIGRATION. Why is this so hard for you goons to understand?cutuphalfdead wrote:You're right, they should have just let him out those undocumented students after whipping the crowd up into an anti-immigrant fervor. It would have been safer that way.
So your imagined physical danger of illegal immigrants is more important to you that the real physical attacks that these deranged antifa assholes did to elderly people, women, and others? Brilliant.cutuphalfdead wrote:Just because one douche burnt a sign doesn't mean I think Berkeley should have let a bigot incite a crowd with his rhetoric and put undocumented immigrants in their community in very real physical danger.PHATJ wrote:Keep ignoring reality, it's really helping your cause.cutuphalfdead wrote:Oh, a meme. My bad.
Are you fucking serious, man? You could not be more biased if you tried.PHATJ wrote:So your imagined physical danger of illegal immigrants is more important to you that the real physical attacks that these deranged antifa assholes did to elderly people, women, and others? Brilliant.cutuphalfdead wrote:Just because one douche burnt a sign doesn't mean I think Berkeley should have let a bigot incite a crowd with his rhetoric and put undocumented immigrants in their community in very real physical danger.PHATJ wrote:Keep ignoring reality, it's really helping your cause.cutuphalfdead wrote:Oh, a meme. My bad.
I don't know what you're talking about.PHATJ wrote:So your imagined physical danger of illegal immigrants is more important to you that the real physical attacks that these deranged antifa assholes did to elderly people, women, and others? Brilliant.cutuphalfdead wrote:Just because one douche burnt a sign doesn't mean I think Berkeley should have let a bigot incite a crowd with his rhetoric and put undocumented immigrants in their community in very real physical danger.PHATJ wrote:Keep ignoring reality, it's really helping your cause.cutuphalfdead wrote:Oh, a meme. My bad.
Agree with this 100%BurtReynolds wrote:That's fine. I think he's a con artist personally.LoathedVermin72 wrote:I'm not saying he shouldn't be allowed to speak, but I think it's pretty fucking suspect that an idiotic douchenozzle like him is getting a paid speaking gig at Berkeley.
But more and more anyone who disagrees with the brand of leftism being put out by cancerous schools like Berkeley is being labelled a nazi and more protests and violence are making things worse. let people speak.uh yes it is. Sure they (and by they I mean the school, not some vague buyllshit community) have a right to refuse anyone to speak on campuss, but it's still an affront to free speech. As a liberal university, they should WANT this.And it's not an affront to free speech if Berkeley, as a community, decides that's not the type of thing they want at their school.
There is literally nothing on planet Earth that defends the rights of marginalized people more than free speech.
I do have an utterly militant belief in the concept of free speech. There is no walking that back. Either you have free speech or you don't. There is no grey area. Hate speech is allowed. Private institutions have a right to do whatever they want, but they should WANT to hear what people have to say.
Until the students said they didn't. And I'd consider the student body to be a part of the overall institution, or the venue.BurtReynolds wrote:The venue wanted him there.cutuphalfdead wrote:Freedom of speech isn't freedom of platform. Milo can say what he wants, but if it's my venue I can tell him to go home.
Then you aren't paying attention, and you haven't followed the story. Two words: pepper spray.cutuphalfdead wrote:I don't know what you're talking about.PHATJ wrote:So your imagined physical danger of illegal immigrants is more important to you that the real physical attacks that these deranged antifa assholes did to elderly people, women, and others? Brilliant.cutuphalfdead wrote:Just because one douche burnt a sign doesn't mean I think Berkeley should have let a bigot incite a crowd with his rhetoric and put undocumented immigrants in their community in very real physical danger.PHATJ wrote:Keep ignoring reality, it's really helping your cause.cutuphalfdead wrote:Oh, a meme. My bad.
No shit, because no one is putting a picture of you on the stage after telling everyone there how people who look like you are everything that's wrong with this country and must be stopped and thrown out at all cost.PHATJ wrote:Agree with this 100%BurtReynolds wrote:That's fine. I think he's a con artist personally.LoathedVermin72 wrote:I'm not saying he shouldn't be allowed to speak, but I think it's pretty fucking suspect that an idiotic douchenozzle like him is getting a paid speaking gig at Berkeley.
But more and more anyone who disagrees with the brand of leftism being put out by cancerous schools like Berkeley is being labelled a nazi and more protests and violence are making things worse. let people speak.uh yes it is. Sure they (and by they I mean the school, not some vague buyllshit community) have a right to refuse anyone to speak on campuss, but it's still an affront to free speech. As a liberal university, they should WANT this.And it's not an affront to free speech if Berkeley, as a community, decides that's not the type of thing they want at their school.
There is literally nothing on planet Earth that defends the rights of marginalized people more than free speech.
I do have an utterly militant belief in the concept of free speech. There is no walking that back. Either you have free speech or you don't. There is no grey area. Hate speech is allowed. Private institutions have a right to do whatever they want, but they should WANT to hear what people have to say.
Whatever the protesters did doesn't change my point.PHATJ wrote:Then you aren't paying attention, and you haven't followed the story. Two words: pepper spray.cutuphalfdead wrote:I don't know what you're talking about.PHATJ wrote:So your imagined physical danger of illegal immigrants is more important to you that the real physical attacks that these deranged antifa assholes did to elderly people, women, and others? Brilliant.cutuphalfdead wrote:Just because one douche burnt a sign doesn't mean I think Berkeley should have let a bigot incite a crowd with his rhetoric and put undocumented immigrants in their community in very real physical danger.PHATJ wrote:Keep ignoring reality, it's really helping your cause.cutuphalfdead wrote:Oh, a meme. My bad.
Now who's the authoritarian?BurtReynolds wrote:The lunatics shouldn't run the asylum.cutuphalfdead wrote:Until the students said they didn't. And I'd consider the student body to be a part of the overall institution, or the venue.BurtReynolds wrote:The venue wanted him there.cutuphalfdead wrote:Freedom of speech isn't freedom of platform. Milo can say what he wants, but if it's my venue I can tell him to go home.
Except there are students there that wanted him to speak, and were silenced by a violence.cutuphalfdead wrote:Until the students said they didn't. And I'd consider the student body to be a part of the overall institution, or the venue.BurtReynolds wrote:The venue wanted him there.cutuphalfdead wrote:Freedom of speech isn't freedom of platform. Milo can say what he wants, but if it's my venue I can tell him to go home.
Show me.BurtReynolds wrote:Are you fucking kidding? The left does this literally every fucking day.cutuphalfdead wrote:No shit, because no one is putting a picture of you on the stage after telling everyone there how people who look like you are everything that's wrong with this country and must be stopped and thrown out at all cost.PHATJ wrote:Agree with this 100%BurtReynolds wrote:That's fine. I think he's a con artist personally.LoathedVermin72 wrote:I'm not saying he shouldn't be allowed to speak, but I think it's pretty fucking suspect that an idiotic douchenozzle like him is getting a paid speaking gig at Berkeley.
But more and more anyone who disagrees with the brand of leftism being put out by cancerous schools like Berkeley is being labelled a nazi and more protests and violence are making things worse. let people speak.uh yes it is. Sure they (and by they I mean the school, not some vague buyllshit community) have a right to refuse anyone to speak on campuss, but it's still an affront to free speech. As a liberal university, they should WANT this.And it's not an affront to free speech if Berkeley, as a community, decides that's not the type of thing they want at their school.
There is literally nothing on planet Earth that defends the rights of marginalized people more than free speech.
I do have an utterly militant belief in the concept of free speech. There is no walking that back. Either you have free speech or you don't. There is no grey area. Hate speech is allowed. Private institutions have a right to do whatever they want, but they should WANT to hear what people have to say.