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Re: Reference for "Things bumping against each other"

Posted: Sun March 26, 2017 2:26 pm
by evenslow
Someone (a mod, perhaps?) should combine all this stuff with my genius rant from theplatypus thread about SVT into a (the?) SVT thread proper.

Re: Reference for "Things bumping against each other"

Posted: Sun March 26, 2017 2:48 pm
by Jorge
Hi guys I did some research
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Re: Reference for "Things bumping against each other"

Posted: Sun March 26, 2017 2:53 pm
by tragabigzanda
pearl jam sucks now

Re: Reference for "Things bumping against each other"

Posted: Sun March 26, 2017 3:16 pm
by Jorge
evenslow wrote:There's almost no doubt this is post recording.

The only sliver of doubt is what PHATJ said about the e-bow argument. If this is COMPLETELY post-recording, why would Ed say, "Do you wanna try an e-bow there?" And why would Stone be so confused about where it's supposed to come?
I think you're mixing two things here. The conversation about the e-bow is about the practicality of getting to an e-bow; at 19:53, Stone says "I can't get to an e-bow coming out of a finger-picking part. The first note is right there on the one." He's not gonna make it to an e-bow on time because of the part he plays immediately preceding it. At 20:55 Stone even says "what about this?", and shows Ed what the part would sound like without the e-bow, but Ed is clearly not sold because he likes the e-bow sound so much. So Ed ends up playing the e-bow, as he has done since (this is actually pretty nifty; we're seeing the origins of why Ed has played that e-bow live for almost 20 years now). They are talking about how to replicate a part that's already been recorded.

(What's funny is that after all of this, when they finally play "Wishlist" in full later in the video, Ed still doesn't get to an e-bow on time, missing the entire first half of the section)

Stone was never confused about where the e-bow went; the "do you know where he wants it" thing is in reference to who's gonna play that hammer-on coming out of the final chorus. That whole thing was about how vague Ed was being by saying it was "at the end". Like the e-bow thing, the conversation is more about the logistics of who's gonna play what part. I like that stuff. A glimpse at the division of labor of a three-guitar attack.

Re: Reference for "Things bumping against each other"

Posted: Sun March 26, 2017 3:42 pm
by evenslow
Platypus for RM President

Re: Reference for "Things bumping against each other"

Posted: Sun March 26, 2017 3:46 pm
by Jorge
Another mystery solved by inappropriately reaching out to people on Facebook

Re: Reference for "Things bumping against each other"

Posted: Sun March 26, 2017 3:52 pm
by evenslow
If you get Mark Pellington to post here you will be Galactic Ruler of RM.

Re: Reference for "Things bumping against each other"

Posted: Sun March 26, 2017 4:02 pm
by PHATJ
Solid work Jorge!

Re: Reference for "Things bumping against each other"

Posted: Sun March 26, 2017 6:36 pm
by bodysnatcher
Yeah maybe the interviews were from the recording process, and the performances were later?

Re: Reference for "Things bumping against each other"

Posted: Sun March 26, 2017 10:06 pm
by Jorge
Naw it was all after. Watch it again with the thought that it was made after Yield and all their interview comments line up and make perfect sense

Re: Reference for "Things bumping against each other"

Posted: Sun March 26, 2017 11:08 pm
by wease
I never even considered that any of it was filmed during the recording of Yield.

Re: Reference for "Things bumping against each other"

Posted: Mon March 27, 2017 12:13 am
by bodysnatcher
Considering that a lot of their recording process is probably pretty piece mailed (different guys in the studio at different times, and BOB stitching the together), it makes sense that in SVT they are trying to figure out how to play these songs together in a live setting. Not necessarily just for the Rolling Stones opening act (if I remember correctly they only played a few Yield songs), but they were kicking off their Yield tour just 3 months later in Hawaii

Re: Reference for "Things bumping against each other"

Posted: Mon March 27, 2017 12:53 am
by evenslow
bodysnatcher wrote:Considering that a lot of their recording process is probably pretty piece mailed (different guys in the studio at different times, and BOB stitching the together), it makes sense that in SVT they are trying to figure out how to play these songs together in a live setting. Not necessarily just for the Rolling Stones opening act (if I remember correctly they only played a few Yield songs), but they were kicking off their Yield tour just 3 months later in Hawaii
Yeah but their recording process has varied wildly through the years. BS & LB were pretty similar but otherwise, it's usually a different animal each time out.

Re: Reference for "Things bumping against each other"

Posted: Mon March 27, 2017 3:33 am
by washing machine
This thread has been the highlight of my Sunday evening reading rounds. Great work, all.

Re: Reference for "Things bumping against each other"

Posted: Mon March 27, 2017 12:44 pm
by E.H. Ruddock
It bothered me in the reading of this thread how much trag fought the facts.

Re: Reference for "Things bumping against each other"

Posted: Mon March 27, 2017 12:52 pm
by Kaius
E.H. Ruddock wrote:It bothered me in the reading of this thread how much trag fought the facts.
But what about the e-bow?

Re: Reference for "Things bumping against each other"

Posted: Mon March 27, 2017 12:53 pm
by Norah
Kaius wrote:
E.H. Ruddock wrote:It bothered me in the reading of this thread how much trag fought the facts.
But what about the e-bow?
You never revisit old arguments even after it's been settled?

Re: Reference for "Things bumping against each other"

Posted: Mon March 27, 2017 12:57 pm
by Kaius
cutuphalfdead wrote:
Kaius wrote:
E.H. Ruddock wrote:It bothered me in the reading of this thread how much trag fought the facts.
But what about the e-bow?
You never revisit old arguments even after it's been settled?
What's done is done.

Re: Reference for "Things bumping against each other"

Posted: Mon March 27, 2017 1:08 pm
by tragabigzanda
pearl jam sucks now

Re: Reference for "Things bumping against each other"

Posted: Mon March 27, 2017 1:19 pm
by Norah
Kaius wrote:
cutuphalfdead wrote:
Kaius wrote:
E.H. Ruddock wrote:It bothered me in the reading of this thread how much trag fought the facts.
But what about the e-bow?
You never revisit old arguments even after it's been settled?
What's done is done.
You know I actually like Yadier Molina.