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Re: Rolling Stone name Pearl Jam a "New Immortal"
Posted: Tue August 29, 2023 2:43 pm
by Chris_H_2
theplatypus wrote:Another thought: Janelle Monae can grow to become one of these if she finally manages to break on through and land a pop hit.
or by showing her tits
Re: Rolling Stone name Pearl Jam a "New Immortal"
Posted: Tue August 29, 2023 2:48 pm
by VinylGuy
¨We really underestimated Tay-Tay¨
Who is the we?
Re: Rolling Stone name Pearl Jam a "New Immortal"
Posted: Tue August 29, 2023 3:11 pm
by McParadigm
Boomer music enjoyed a long shelf life because it was lucrative to keep on promoting it for decades. The audience was vast and nostalgic. The medium was physical media, and physical media was always developing new formats you could resell in. A television appearance on the right program could be a cultural event that almost everyone was exposed to. And the pop music explosion sucked the interest clean out of any of the music that came before it. The field was as wide open as it gets, and the audience was continually spending.
Nothing that came after it will have the shelf life that it had. And I fully expect to live long enough to see a time when almost no one under the age of 50 gives two shits about the Beatles, or the Stones, or The Clash, or any of that, either. It was fascinates me the way we aggrandize the longevity of these things that happened in less than a lifetime ago.
Re: Rolling Stone name Pearl Jam a "New Immortal"
Posted: Tue August 29, 2023 4:05 pm
by spike
i think people will give a shit about The Beatles for a long time.
Re: Rolling Stone name Pearl Jam a "New Immortal"
Posted: Tue August 29, 2023 4:20 pm
by tragabigzanda
Re: Rolling Stone name Pearl Jam a "New Immortal"
Posted: Tue August 29, 2023 5:15 pm
by 96583UP
Toad the Wet Sprocket
Re: Rolling Stone name Pearl Jam a "New Immortal"
Posted: Tue August 29, 2023 5:19 pm
by VinylGuy
McParadigm wrote:Boomer music enjoyed a long shelf life because it was lucrative to keep on promoting it for decades. The audience was vast and nostalgic. The medium was physical media, and physical media was always developing new formats you could resell in. A television appearance on the right program could be a cultural event that almost everyone was exposed to. And the pop music explosion sucked the interest clean out of any of the music that came before it. The field was as wide open as it gets, and the audience was continually spending.
Nothing that came after it will have the shelf life that it had. And I fully expect to live long enough to see a time when almost no one under the age of 50 gives two shits about the Beatles, or the Stones, or The Clash, or any of that, either. It was fascinates me the way we aggrandize the longevity of these things that happened in less than a lifetime ago.
I think music is timeless. The market is always changing, the industry is always changing. But we are still listening to Miles, reading Beethoven, producing studio music like The Beatles.
I do agree that it seems eveyrthing is quicker, the pace is fast, now everyone releases singles or short albums and they need to release something again soon in order to still be relevant for the market.
Re: Rolling Stone name Pearl Jam a "New Immortal"
Posted: Tue August 29, 2023 5:24 pm
by epilogue
VinylGuy wrote:¨We really underestimated Tay-Tay¨
Who is the we?
VinylGuy wrote:there are some wrong choices..i mean taylor swift?
Re: Rolling Stone name Pearl Jam a "New Immortal"
Posted: Tue August 29, 2023 5:28 pm
by VinylGuy
it was a joke yeez
Re: Rolling Stone name Pearl Jam a "New Immortal"
Posted: Tue August 29, 2023 5:48 pm
by epilogue
Re: Rolling Stone name Pearl Jam a "New Immortal"
Posted: Tue August 29, 2023 5:50 pm
by McParadigm
VinylGuy wrote:I think music is timeless. The market is always changing, the industry is always changing. But we are still listening to Miles, reading Beethoven, producing studio music like The Beatles.
Miles and the Beatles made their best records less than a lifetime ago. Even Duke Ellington’s most famous works are barely 90 years old.
We talk about pop music like it has a demonstrated capability for longevity, when it hasn’t even begun to take the test. It’s all transient, and it all should be. None of the things you loved will long survive you, because that’s not what they’re here to do.
Re: Rolling Stone name Pearl Jam a "New Immortal"
Posted: Tue August 29, 2023 5:51 pm
by McParadigm
Anyways, I’m great fun at parties. Invite me anytime.
Re: Rolling Stone name Pearl Jam a "New Immortal"
Posted: Tue August 29, 2023 6:01 pm
by VinylGuy
McParadigm wrote:VinylGuy wrote:I think music is timeless. The market is always changing, the industry is always changing. But we are still listening to Miles, reading Beethoven, producing studio music like The Beatles.
Miles and the Beatles made their best records less than a lifetime ago. Even Duke Ellington’s most famous works are barely 90 years old.
We talk about pop music like it has a demonstrated capability for longevity, when it hasn’t even begun to take the test. It’s all transient, and it all should be. None of the things you loved will long survive you, because that’s not what they’re here to do.
whats their mission?
i dont see Ellington or Miles going away soon. You left Beethoven out of this conversation...
Re: Rolling Stone name Pearl Jam a "New Immortal"
Posted: Tue August 29, 2023 6:05 pm
by Jorge
Let's stuff McP in a locker
Re: Rolling Stone name Pearl Jam a "New Immortal"
Posted: Tue August 29, 2023 6:13 pm
by McParadigm
VinylGuy wrote:We talk about pop music like it has a demonstrated capability for longevity, when it hasn’t even begun to take the test. It’s all transient, and it all should be. None of the things you loved will long survive you, because that’s not what they’re here to do.
whats their mission?
They’re here for you to love them now. That’s the whole game.
Re: Rolling Stone name Pearl Jam a "New Immortal"
Posted: Tue August 29, 2023 6:19 pm
by McParadigm
Jorge wrote:Let's stuff McP in a locker
The year is 2123. A young man sits waiting for the skybus with his friends. They are debating Pet Sounds against Sgt Peppers…a conversation that carried over from the night before. He wonders what the next Star War will be about, and what joy is.
Re: Rolling Stone name Pearl Jam a "New Immortal"
Posted: Tue August 29, 2023 6:33 pm
by BurtReynolds
Swift's rise coincided with the rise of beige.
Re: Rolling Stone name Pearl Jam a "New Immortal"
Posted: Tue August 29, 2023 6:37 pm
by VinylGuy
McParadigm wrote:Jorge wrote:Let's stuff McP in a locker
The year is 2123. A young man sits waiting for the skybus with his friends. They are debating Pet Sounds against Sgt Peppers…a conversation that carried over from the night before. He wonders what the next Star War will be about, and what joy is.
Star Wars will be there for sure
Re: Rolling Stone name Pearl Jam a "New Immortal"
Posted: Tue August 29, 2023 7:52 pm
by liebzz
I am not sure whether this has turned into a deep philosophical discussion on the passage of time, or if we’re just tripping a little to hard. One thing we could use is Marty McFly fixing the flux capacitor so we can get an answer to these and other important questions…like in 2123 is the internet still filled with memes extolling Michael Jordan as the greatest ever or will the descendants of those folks finally give LeBron his due?
Re: Rolling Stone name Pearl Jam a "New Immortal"
Posted: Tue August 29, 2023 8:18 pm
by McParadigm
Michael Jordan will be there for sure