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Re: Vault Release #7 - Soldier Field '95
Posted: Mon July 10, 2017 9:24 pm
by Rangi Guy
Incomplete Show Sitting On The Counter In a Small Room
Re: Vault Release #7 - Soldier Field '95
Posted: Mon July 10, 2017 9:25 pm
by Rangi Guy
Opportunity Wasted
Re: Vault Release #7 - Soldier Field '95
Posted: Mon July 10, 2017 9:27 pm
by tragabigzanda
Re: Vault Release #7 - Soldier Field '95
Posted: Mon July 10, 2017 9:27 pm
by tragabigzanda
Re: Vault Release #7 - Soldier Field '95
Posted: Mon July 10, 2017 9:41 pm
by CopperTom
I am glad they continued the vault series. It is a very good show. I get aggregated and disappointed when their vault show is chopped and when it's already well-circulated above-average-quality-source show.
Next vault show: Give Way.
Re: Vault Release #7 - Soldier Field '95
Posted: Mon July 10, 2017 9:51 pm
by Birds in Hell
Hard to compare a show that's long been available in official release quality (Give Way) to one that's acknowledged as a classic show yet only ever been available on a variety of pretty bad sounding sources. It's not like they're releasing Atlanta 1994, Berlin 1996 or Melbourne 1995.
As for being chopped, the chances of the band sitting on a treasure trove of complete multitrack recordings from pre-2000 are pretty much nil. They weren't recording these shows with the intention of release, it's pretty amazing they have what they do. I think it's advisable to expect every Vault release to be missing something.
Re: Vault Release #7 - Soldier Field '95
Posted: Mon July 10, 2017 10:01 pm
by ridleybradout
Exactly Spenno - well said.
What we do know is that they started recording all shows in multitrack from the beginning of the Yield tour - the PJ20 book says they originally planned to put out a show from the Australia/NZ tour (then went with LO2L instead), so hopefully we'll get something from that last Jack tour eventually. Knowing 10C it'll probably be Melbourne 1998-03-05

Re: Vault Release #7 - Soldier Field '95
Posted: Mon July 10, 2017 10:03 pm
by Strat
Yea, I should probably just order it. 5
Re: Vault Release #7 - Soldier Field '95
Posted: Mon July 10, 2017 10:04 pm
by CopperTom
The Soldier Field sources that circulate are not bad. Not even close. Give Way is a nice lazy next choice. I was making no correlation between the two. Just a guess on what comes next.
Re: Vault Release #7 - Soldier Field '95
Posted: Mon July 10, 2017 10:09 pm
by Strat
I rather them just edit the digital tracks into the show :\
Re: Vault Release #7 - Soldier Field '95
Posted: Mon July 10, 2017 10:10 pm
by bodysnatcher
Strat wrote:Yea, I should probably just order it. 5
i just did bc i like to live on the edge
Re: Vault Release #7 - Soldier Field '95
Posted: Mon July 10, 2017 10:16 pm
by ridleybradout
Strat wrote:I rather them just edit the digital tracks into the show :\
The missing tracks are the last 7 songs of the show so they obviously just ran out of tape
Or lost them

Re: Vault Release #7 - Soldier Field '95
Posted: Mon July 10, 2017 10:25 pm
by Strat
ridleybradout wrote:Strat wrote:I rather them just edit the digital tracks into the show :\
The missing tracks are the last 7 songs of the show so they obviously just ran out of tape
Or lost them

I would have taken them just slapping the digital tracks on another LP
Re: Vault Release #7 - Soldier Field '95
Posted: Mon July 10, 2017 10:31 pm
by Norah
Just play them after.
Re: Vault Release #7 - Soldier Field '95
Posted: Mon July 10, 2017 10:31 pm
by Birds in Hell
Just do the sensible thing and buy the digital files instead, Strat.
Re: Vault Release #7 - Soldier Field '95
Posted: Mon July 10, 2017 10:40 pm
by Anders
Putting the digital files on an extra LP would be the sensible thing to do. Still glad they have released this officially. A good show.
Re: Vault Release #7 - Soldier Field '95
Posted: Mon July 10, 2017 10:48 pm
by Birds in Hell
Are people vinyl fetishists to the insane degree that they want a crummy sounding radio broadcast included just because, well, it's on vinyl?
No answer necessary, of course.
Re: Vault Release #7 - Soldier Field '95
Posted: Mon July 10, 2017 10:50 pm
by Strat
Birds in Hell wrote:Are people vinyl fetishists to the insane degree that they want a crummy sounding radio broadcast included just because, well, it's on vinyl?
No answer necessary, of course.
Its my preferred way to listen to music. Why is that so strange? I love collecting them, i love pulling them out and putting them on a table and letting the needle head downward. its fun. I enjoy it. Im not arguing sound quality, im just saying that I enjoy this process the best. And i do love the big artwork and all that jazz. Thats okay, spenno.
And for tossing the digital tracks on at the end on a new LP ? Well that would just be nice so i can continue listening in such a way.
Ill also have the digital tracks.
Re: Vault Release #7 - Soldier Field '95
Posted: Mon July 10, 2017 10:53 pm
by Wendy Carlos's Twin
CopperTom wrote:The Soldier Field sources that circulate are not bad. Not even close.
In your opinion. The fact that it's only available in
mono should be enough of a reason not to complain.
Re: Vault Release #7 - Soldier Field '95
Posted: Mon July 10, 2017 10:58 pm
by Birds in Hell
Strat wrote:Birds in Hell wrote:Are people vinyl fetishists to the insane degree that they want a crummy sounding radio broadcast included just because, well, it's on vinyl?
No answer necessary, of course.
Its my preferred way to listen to music. Why is that so strange? I love collecting them, i love pulling them out and putting them on a table and letting the needle head downward. its fun. I enjoy it. Im not arguing sound quality, im just saying that I enjoy this process the best. And i do love the big artwork and all that jazz. Thats okay, spenno.
I understand wanting to listen to a studio album on vinyl, particularly one that was originally sequenced for release that way (eg. records that have a well thought out side A and B, etc.) It seems like a monumentally weird way to listen to a whole live show, though - changing countless vinyl sides and whatnot.