I think Eddie Vedder might be a better guitarist than Stone

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Whats your problem with Stone?

Are you eddie vedder?
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This should put an end to the debate about who the best Pearl Jam drummer is.

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mikejasond wrote:I think Eddie Vedder might be a better skin harmonica player than John Travolta
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mikejasond wrote:I think Eddie Vedder might be a better harmonica player than John Popper
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mikejasond wrote:I think Eddie Vedder might be a better skin harmonica player than John Travolta
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I was really really impressed with Eddie here.

And one of my biggest criticisms of some of the live songs, when I listen to boots is that a lot end up dragging or seeming plodding in a weird way, or clunky. Like I want them to move and flow a little more than they do, like on the album. This pops up on some of my favorite songs (Elderly Woman, Daughter, Once) where they are clunky live and Im pretty sure ALL of that is due to Stone.

So when I heard that punchy Sometimes I was like wow, Eddie's got this down. He also impressed me on Off he Goes and Around the Bend from that same Moline show. He's killing it on the guitar and he sounds better than Gossard.
That "punchy", percussive guitar playing style of Ed's has been a real detriment to songs like Corduroy, Sometimes, Off He Goes, etc.

It feels like something he's really doubled-down on in recent years, maybe since starting his solo tours, or just excessive Springsteen fandom, and comes at the expense of subtlety on those songs. One of the issues I have with the band's current live performances is that veneration of "energy", like every song has to pump the crowd up.

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Birds in Hell wrote:and comes at the expense of subtlety on those songs. One of the issues I have with the band's current live performances is that veneration of "energy", like every song has to pump the crowd up.
This is exactly my problem with live PJ shows now. They've completely changed the atmosphere of their shows. Lost the subtleties, details, intensities and differing moods in favor of THE PARTY.
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Birds in Hell wrote:and comes at the expense of subtlety on those songs. One of the issues I have with the band's current live performances is that veneration of "energy", like every song has to pump the crowd up.
This is exactly my problem with live PJ shows now. They've completely changed the atmosphere of their shows. Lost the subtleties, details, intensities and differing moods in favor of THE PARTY.
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guys, all of stone's bands failed until eddie came along. think about it.
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It's hilarious MJD used Sometimes as his example of Ed's playing, one of the simplest songs to play in their catalogue.

I'm convinced MJD is one of the band members, likely Jeff, and he's here to troll everyone.
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TouringReg wrote:It's hilarious MJD used Sometimes as his example of Ed's playing, one of the simplest songs to play in their catalogue.

I'm convinced MJD is one of the band members, likely Jeff, and he's here to troll everyone.
It wouldn't be the first time that happened.
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spike wrote:guys, all of stone's bands failed until eddie came along. think about it.
You might be joking, but the opposite is actually true. Stone made a name for himself through Green River, was heading for success with MLB before the od, had Temple Of The Dog underway, and had the music from most of Ten and the other band members gathered, and was part of a music scene about to hit huge success, all before meeting Ed.

Ed had a mostly failed career at that point. We're lucky that Jack, Stone and Jeff liked him, and helped discover the amazing talent that he is.
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Yeah, I think it's likely Stone and Jeff would both have continued to have at least moderately successful musical careers had they never crossed paths with Ed, I really can't say the same for him (or Mike, who may be the luckiest guy in the world).
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If we change time to the days before they appointed Ed, and they decided to go with someone else, then the record with Stone, Jeff, Mike, a drummer (Dave K?), and another vocalist, would probably have done really well. The vocalist is very important in rock though, so even if the music was already great, the level of success would depend on what he managed to do with it. Clearly Ed did an amazing job.
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Anders wrote:If we change time to the days before they appointed Ed, and they decided to go with someone else, then the record with Stone, Jeff, Mike, a drummer (Dave K?), and another vocalist, would probably have done really well. The vocalist is very important in rock though, so even if the music was already great, the level of success would depend on what he managed to do with it. Clearly Ed did an amazing job.
It could've been Scott Stapp.
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Sgt. Crackpot wrote:
Anders wrote:If we change time to the days before they appointed Ed, and they decided to go with someone else, then the record with Stone, Jeff, Mike, a drummer (Dave K?), and another vocalist, would probably have done really well. The vocalist is very important in rock though, so even if the music was already great, the level of success would depend on what he managed to do with it. Clearly Ed did an amazing job.
It could've been Scott Stapp.
He was only 16, and probably hadn't modelled himself after Ed yet.

Perhaps Dave Grohl could have gone for it.
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I would say Eddie is best at the folk stuff, better than Mike on that front as well.
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stone keeps that grammy in his basement because he knows he doesn't deserve it
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