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Re: Who Ever Said

Posted: Tue April 28, 2020 12:54 am
by Ms Harmless
Ed's vocal performance is a highlight of this for me; I haven't felt that in ages

Re: Who Ever Said

Posted: Tue April 28, 2020 1:22 am
by Rob
mikejasond wrote:
Brett wrote:
mikejasond wrote:I'm pretty sure every lyrics page is wrong on this. It says "Room to tomb and cradle to grave". I think that's "womb to tomb". Which I wouldn't know if they don't always say it in West Side Story but it makes much more sense and matches cradle to grave.
"Room to tomb" makes sense, too, though, as the cradle would be contained within the room as a grave can be contained within a tomb.
Well....sort of...but a room isn't very specific. Womb is a much better lyric and Im pretty sure that's what he's saying. Both are idioms that mean "birth to death". Room to tomb means nothing.
I don't have it on me at the moment to double check, but I am sure the official booklet/artwork that came with the CD has "room to tomb."

Re: Who Ever Said

Posted: Tue April 28, 2020 1:25 am
by PHATJ
Rob wrote:
mikejasond wrote:
Brett wrote:
mikejasond wrote:I'm pretty sure every lyrics page is wrong on this. It says "Room to tomb and cradle to grave". I think that's "womb to tomb". Which I wouldn't know if they don't always say it in West Side Story but it makes much more sense and matches cradle to grave.
"Room to tomb" makes sense, too, though, as the cradle would be contained within the room as a grave can be contained within a tomb.
Well....sort of...but a room isn't very specific. Womb is a much better lyric and Im pretty sure that's what he's saying. Both are idioms that mean "birth to death". Room to tomb means nothing.
I don't have it on me at the moment to double check, but I am sure the official booklet/artwork that came with the CD has "room to tomb."
It does.

Re: Who Ever Said

Posted: Tue April 28, 2020 1:25 am
by RockPusher
Yes, the booklet says room to tomb. Ed chooses his words carefully, and then types them as the "official typist." He did not get this wrong. You just want it to be a different way.

Re: Who Ever Said

Posted: Tue April 28, 2020 1:29 am
by 96583UP
I'm just here cause bodysnatcher said this thread has handjobs in it

Re: Who Ever Said

Posted: Tue April 28, 2020 3:28 am
by Leatherhead
I'm fine with him saying "room." Saying "womb" is pretty obvious, so he probably has some reason to say "room."

Re: Who Ever Said

Posted: Tue April 28, 2020 3:29 am
by Leatherhead
But I don't think there's any way he's actually saying "It's all in the delivery."

Re: Who Ever Said

Posted: Tue April 28, 2020 8:18 pm
by guitar_davey
Leatherhead wrote:But I don't think there's any way he's actually saying "It's all in the delivery."

Sounds like "it's all delivery."

Re: Who Ever Said

Posted: Tue April 28, 2020 8:25 pm
by mikejasond
Ms Harmless wrote:Ed's vocal performance is a highlight of this for me; I haven't felt that in ages
This is very true. Such a contrast from Getaway

Re: Who Ever Said

Posted: Tue April 28, 2020 8:25 pm
by mikejasond
I love the way he sings "Home is where the broken heart iiiis"

The breathy "is" reminds me of mid-career Eddie in a beautiful way

Re: Who Ever Said

Posted: Tue April 28, 2020 8:31 pm
by McParadigm
I haven’t seen any Pearl Jam liner notes in like a decade, but I remember them mostly for being unconcerned with providing exactly accurate lyrics. I remember some bad spelling, some purposeful misrepresentation, and a lot of whatever the spacebar is doing here: “I’ve been har boring fleets in this resevoir (sic).”

Re: Who Ever Said

Posted: Tue April 28, 2020 8:33 pm
by Rob
guitar_davey wrote:
Leatherhead wrote:But I don't think there's any way he's actually saying "It's all in the delivery."

Sounds like "it's all delivery."
"it's all in the delivery, said the messenger who is now dead" makes sense to me.

Re: Who Ever Said

Posted: Tue April 28, 2020 8:33 pm
by guitar_davey
McParadigm wrote:I haven’t seen any Pearl Jam liner notes in like a decade, but I remember them mostly for being unconcerned with providing exactly accurate lyrics. I remember some bad spelling, some purposeful misrepresentation, and a lot of whatever the spacebar is doing here: “I’ve been har boring fleets in this resevoir (sic).”

You are, you are a furry thing.

Re: Who Ever Said

Posted: Tue April 28, 2020 8:40 pm
by Jorge
Leatherhead wrote:I'm fine with him saying "room." Saying "womb" is pretty obvious, so he probably has some reason to say "room."
Yeah it's not like we can expect obvious from the "I'm in the fire but I'm still cold" guy

Re: Who Ever Said

Posted: Tue April 28, 2020 8:40 pm
by McParadigm
guitar_davey wrote:
McParadigm wrote:I haven’t seen any Pearl Jam liner notes in like a decade, but I remember them mostly for being unconcerned with providing exactly accurate lyrics. I remember some bad spelling, some purposeful misrepresentation, and a lot of whatever the spacebar is doing here: “I’ve been har boring fleets in this resevoir (sic).”

You are, you are a furry thing.
Canon now I suppose

Re: Who Ever Said

Posted: Wed April 29, 2020 4:10 pm
by Leatherhead
Rob wrote:
guitar_davey wrote:
Leatherhead wrote:But I don't think there's any way he's actually saying "It's all in the delivery."

Sounds like "it's all delivery."
"it's all in the delivery, said the messenger who is now dead" makes sense to me.
Yea it makes sense, but listen to the song. I think guitar_davey has it right.

Re: Who Ever Said

Posted: Wed April 29, 2020 4:24 pm
by guitar_davey
Leatherhead wrote:
Rob wrote:
guitar_davey wrote:
Leatherhead wrote:But I don't think there's any way he's actually saying "It's all in the delivery."

Sounds like "it's all delivery."
"it's all in the delivery, said the messenger who is now dead" makes sense to me.
Yea it makes sense, but listen to the song. I think guitar_davey has it right.
I think there's an intended version and then what Ed managed to fit in the recorded version.

Re: Who Ever Said

Posted: Wed April 29, 2020 4:28 pm
by EJ
it doesn't even sound like "delivery" either; more like "re-livery"

Re: Who Ever Said

Posted: Wed April 29, 2020 4:28 pm
by Leatherhead
guitar_davey wrote:
Leatherhead wrote:
Rob wrote:
guitar_davey wrote:
Leatherhead wrote:But I don't think there's any way he's actually saying "It's all in the delivery."

Sounds like "it's all delivery."
"it's all in the delivery, said the messenger who is now dead" makes sense to me.
Yea it makes sense, but listen to the song. I think guitar_davey has it right.
I think there's an intended version and then what Ed managed to fit in the recorded version.
Yea.

Re: Who Ever Said

Posted: Wed April 29, 2020 4:33 pm
by Ms Harmless
Leatherhead wrote:
guitar_davey wrote:
Leatherhead wrote:
Rob wrote:
guitar_davey wrote:
Leatherhead wrote:But I don't think there's any way he's actually saying "It's all in the delivery."

Sounds like "it's all delivery."
"it's all in the delivery, said the messenger who is now dead" makes sense to me.
Yea it makes sense, but listen to the song. I think guitar_davey has it right.
I think there's an intended version and then what Ed managed to fit in the recorded version.
Yea.
I don't know what the original saying is but it may well be "it's all delivery, said the messenger who is dead"

so you're right about the lyric

I think the *second* line is "it's all on the periphery / I didn't see him but I heard what he said"

these lyrics are actually solid