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Re: Quick Escape
Posted: Sat April 04, 2020 12:25 pm
by Ms Harmless
dimejinky99 wrote:Ms Harmless wrote:dimejinky99 wrote:I love the way this almost falls apart by the end. Like a mad frenetic energy they’re all loving different ways. It cool
yeah it's great; I used to see this "everything falls apart" type of ending as a real hallmark of PJ's music, but they've been so obsessed with clean precision in recent times, they wouldn't have tried something like this; I'm glad they loosened up on this album
Well they’re bastards for fade outs. It’s all fade outs on the best songs too faithful evolution
Waaaaah
I’d prefer this ending
you're right, yes
Re: Quick Escape
Posted: Sat April 04, 2020 12:37 pm
by oneway23
Ending on this one is so great. Can't wait to see them expand it live (If/when that ever happens).
Re: Quick Escape
Posted: Sat April 04, 2020 3:05 pm
by OmegaprimeVKM
oneway23 wrote:Ending on this one is so great. Can't wait to see them expand it live (If/when that ever happens).
You'd think this, but honestly, name a PJ original track since DTE that has been played live and is a lot more creative, expansive or has been tagged or jammed in the middle of?
Re: Quick Escape
Posted: Sat April 04, 2020 3:22 pm
by SJM
OmegaprimeVKM wrote:oneway23 wrote:Ending on this one is so great. Can't wait to see them expand it live (If/when that ever happens).
You'd think this, but honestly, name a PJ original track since DTE that has been played live and is a lot more creative, expansive or has been tagged or jammed in the middle of?
Love boat captain, lightning bolt and sirens off the top of my head.
Re: Quick Escape
Posted: Sat April 04, 2020 8:06 pm
by stip
SJM wrote:OmegaprimeVKM wrote:oneway23 wrote:Ending on this one is so great. Can't wait to see them expand it live (If/when that ever happens).
You'd think this, but honestly, name a PJ original track since DTE that has been played live and is a lot more creative, expansive or has been tagged or jammed in the middle of?
Love boat captain, lightning bolt and sirens off the top of my head.
pendulum
also dte doesnt change live, does it? beyond the audience singing along
Re: Quick Escape
Posted: Sun April 05, 2020 2:14 am
by spike
i get some of the naysaying over this song, but its groove can't be denied. a pearl jam song hasn't swung this effortlessly in awhile.
Re: Quick Escape
Posted: Sun April 05, 2020 5:26 am
by PHATJ
spike wrote:i get some of the naysaying over this song, but its groove can't be denied. a pearl jam song hasn't swung this effortlessly in awhile.
Because of those naysayers, I keep going into this song expecting it to be less awesome than I remember. But it is fucking awesome. Erry tyne

Re: Quick Escape
Posted: Sun April 05, 2020 4:44 pm
by RockPusher
PHATJ wrote:spike wrote:i get some of the naysaying over this song, but its groove can't be denied. a pearl jam song hasn't swung this effortlessly in awhile.
Because of those naysayers, I keep going into this song expecting it to be less awesome than I remember. But it is fucking awesome. Erry tyne

Ha! I think your experience with this album and my own are similar. It’s such a glorious and unexpected development in my late era Pearl Jam fandom to be able to just enjoy “on the face of it.”
Re: Quick Escape
Posted: Sun April 05, 2020 5:22 pm
by VinylGuy
fuuuuuck the groove man, the groove....Matt, Jeff...MIKE DOING THAT AMAZING SOLOOOOO
PEARL JAM
Re: Quick Escape
Posted: Sun April 05, 2020 10:39 pm
by Kevin Davis
I really like this song so this isn't meant as a criticism: I still can't get around the feeling that this sounds like Def Leppard, or some other iteration of '80's metal -- that wordless chanting during the chorus feels very Pyromania/Mutt Lange-y, and while it's not explicitly mixed to emphasize it, the riff throughout and especially during the solo feels more metallic in composition than any other Pearl Jam song I can think of. The spoken word effect in the middle has an endearing low-budget-outer-space-movie vibe to it, a device used to the same ends on Def Leppard's "Rocket" in 1987.
This song feels like a modern take on a style of music whose attempts to sound futuristic now make it sound even older than it is.
Re: Quick Escape
Posted: Sun April 05, 2020 10:42 pm
by spike
Kevin Davis wrote:I really like this song so this isn't meant as a criticism: I still can't get around the feeling that this sounds like Def Leppard, or some other iteration of '80's metal -- that wordless chanting during the chorus feels very Pyromania/Mutt Lange-y, and while it's not explicitly mixed to emphasize it, the riff throughout and especially during the solo feels more metallic in composition than any other Pearl Jam song I can think of. The spoken word effect in the middle has an endearing low-budget-outer-space-movie vibe to it, a device used to the same ends on Def Leppard's "Rocket" in 1987.
This song feels like a modern take on a style of music whose attempts to sound futuristic now make it sound even older than it is.
this is how I felt about you are when it came out
Re: Quick Escape
Posted: Sun April 05, 2020 10:45 pm
by VinylGuy
Fuck if Def Leppard was doing these kinda songs i will check them out!
Its Led Zep for me. Mixed with a little RATM or Audioslave.
Re: Quick Escape
Posted: Sun April 05, 2020 10:47 pm
by Strat
Kevin Davis wrote:I really like this song so this isn't meant as a criticism: I still can't get around the feeling that this sounds like Def Leppard, or some other iteration of '80's metal -- that wordless chanting during the chorus feels very Pyromania/Mutt Lange-y, and while it's not explicitly mixed to emphasize it, the riff throughout and especially during the solo feels more metallic in composition than any other Pearl Jam song I can think of. The spoken word effect in the middle has an endearing low-budget-outer-space-movie vibe to it, a device used to the same ends on Def Leppard's "Rocket" in 1987.
This song feels like a modern take on a style of music whose attempts to sound futuristic now make it sound even older than it is.
It is so fascinating to me how people listen to the same things as me yet hear it completely different.
Life, man. Its beautiful.
Re: Quick Escape
Posted: Sun April 05, 2020 10:55 pm
by Ms Harmless
this whole album is kind of loaded with 80s sounds, to FAR greater effect than Backspacer
Re: Quick Escape
Posted: Mon April 06, 2020 1:19 am
by wease
VinylGuy wrote:Fuck if Def Leppard was doing these kinda songs i will check them out!
Its Led Zep for me. Mixed with a little RATM or Audioslave.
Yeah. Totally Rage or Audioslave.
Re: Quick Escape
Posted: Mon April 06, 2020 1:57 am
by 96583UP
SJM wrote:OmegaprimeVKM wrote:oneway23 wrote:Ending on this one is so great. Can't wait to see them expand it live (If/when that ever happens).
You'd think this, but honestly, name a PJ original track since DTE that has been played live and is a lot more creative, expansive or has been tagged or jammed in the middle of?
Love boat captain, lightning bolt and sirens off the top of my head.
Also Josh Evans basically said in their rehearsals they keep jamming at the end
can you imagine trying to keep Mike to 8 bars at that level of ferocity?
Re: Quick Escape
Posted: Mon April 06, 2020 1:58 am
by 96583UP
only in pro tools splice land
Re: Quick Escape
Posted: Mon April 06, 2020 2:00 am
by RockPusher
I was a Def Leppard fan once, so I can kinda dig that comment. I think DL tried to hit this hard, but kinda never really punched above their weight class, which ended up being clearly a kind of lite metal glam type of rock. Pearl Jam has made a career of going wherever they want with that incredibly earnest and serious intent that Eddie brings, so it stands to reason that their take on that "Rocket" kind of sound would come with a lot more drive and edge.
Re: Quick Escape
Posted: Mon April 06, 2020 2:12 am
by Kevin Davis
Def Leppard was some of the first music I liked as a child so I really don't mean that as an insult at all. And I don't mean to suggest that this would ever be mistaken for a Def Leppard song -- it's very much PJ, they make it their own thing -- just that a lot of those elements are in place.
I don't hear RATM/Audioslave at all. This is way more densely layered than anything either of those bands ever did.
Re: Quick Escape
Posted: Mon April 06, 2020 2:15 am
by Ms Harmless
I was a Def Leppard kid too
also Bryan Adams, which makes sense