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Re: Waiting For Stevie
Posted: Wed September 11, 2024 12:58 am
by Birds in Hell
sweeper wrote:Birds in Hell wrote:VinylGuy wrote:The whole WFS thing is something that RM made up, not a real thing
Amusingly, Howard Stern challenged Ed to play the riff during the band interview - and he was completely lost, couldn't do it.
I'm not really sure what you're getting at but the clip is on YouTube and:
1) Howard doesn't ask him to play it. Ed just plays it on his own.
2) For someone that doesn't play guitar on this song (on record or live), he plays it fine. If he did come up with the riff it would have been at least a year prior to this Stern interview. And yet he still plays it fine off of memory for someone that wouldn't have needed to play the riff in awhile.
You're completely stretching with some form of bias for what you want to believe with your comments here.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XudnJXXgejc
That’s an edited version of the original discussion.
Re: Waiting For Stevie
Posted: Wed September 11, 2024 3:47 am
by Leatherhead
If Stone Gossard dgaf, neither do I.
Re: Waiting For Stevie
Posted: Wed September 11, 2024 3:56 am
by dimejinky99
Stone was the problem
It was stone
Re: Waiting For Stevie
Posted: Wed September 11, 2024 4:23 am
by Got Some
Birds in Hell wrote:sweeper wrote:Birds in Hell wrote:VinylGuy wrote:The whole WFS thing is something that RM made up, not a real thing
Amusingly, Howard Stern challenged Ed to play the riff during the band interview - and he was completely lost, couldn't do it.
I'm not really sure what you're getting at but the clip is on YouTube and:
1) Howard doesn't ask him to play it. Ed just plays it on his own.
2) For someone that doesn't play guitar on this song (on record or live), he plays it fine. If he did come up with the riff it would have been at least a year prior to this Stern interview. And yet he still plays it fine off of memory for someone that wouldn't have needed to play the riff in awhile.
You're completely stretching with some form of bias for what you want to believe with your comments here.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XudnJXXgejc
That’s an edited version of the original discussion.
The point still remains. He played his version when asked.
Vedder says he and Watt wrote it which has been consistent thru out all interviews.
The story of how the song was formed was around before Dark Matter was released.
Why would Ed need to make it shit like that FFS!!!
Re: Waiting For Stevie
Posted: Wed September 11, 2024 7:19 am
by dimejinky99
i dunno whose burner account that is ^^ but that aint gonna be a popular take at all
show yourself you coward!!!
Re: Waiting For Stevie
Posted: Wed September 11, 2024 10:39 am
by lecherouslittlestump
Just admit it that they use songwriters now. Which basically makes them no better than Bon Jovi, Aerosmith, Nickelback etc.
Fucking nauseating to see what this band have become.
Re: Waiting For Stevie
Posted: Wed September 11, 2024 12:08 pm
by VinylGuy
Got Some wrote:Birds in Hell wrote:sweeper wrote:Birds in Hell wrote:VinylGuy wrote:The whole WFS thing is something that RM made up, not a real thing
Amusingly, Howard Stern challenged Ed to play the riff during the band interview - and he was completely lost, couldn't do it.
I'm not really sure what you're getting at but the clip is on YouTube and:
1) Howard doesn't ask him to play it. Ed just plays it on his own.
2) For someone that doesn't play guitar on this song (on record or live), he plays it fine. If he did come up with the riff it would have been at least a year prior to this Stern interview. And yet he still plays it fine off of memory for someone that wouldn't have needed to play the riff in awhile.
You're completely stretching with some form of bias for what you want to believe with your comments here.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XudnJXXgejc
That’s an edited version of the original discussion.
The point still remains. He played his version when asked.
Vedder says he and Watt wrote it which has been consistent thru out all interviews.
The story of how the song was formed was around before Dark Matter was released.
Why would Ed need to make it shit like that FFS!!!
Because, becauseeee…!!!
Re: Waiting For Stevie
Posted: Wed September 11, 2024 12:28 pm
by dimejinky99
lecherouslittlestump wrote:Just admit it that they use songwriters now. Which basically makes them no better than Bon Jovi, Aerosmith, Nickelback etc.
Fucking nauseating to see what this band have become.
Dave A has entered the room
thanks strat
Re: Waiting For Stevie
Posted: Wed September 11, 2024 1:28 pm
by digster
One interesting thing about Watt's credit for that song in particular is that it's really the only one on the album that tries to sonically emulate their sound on Ten (even if it isn't a carbon copy). It seems notable that the one time they go back to that well, it literally has to come from outside the band; it makes me feel like it's ground they just don't really have much interest in revisiting, despite the marketing of the album fashioning it as some kind of return (a play they've obviously done with other records before).
Re: Waiting For Stevie
Posted: Wed September 11, 2024 1:44 pm
by stip
i imagine it more like giving them permission to revisit but that is an interesting observation
Re: Waiting For Stevie
Posted: Wed September 11, 2024 2:24 pm
by McParadigm
The riff doesn’t feel like ten to me at all. It sounds more like something Ed would come up with around the time of dead man….just played with 180% more rock and roll bluster.
Re: Waiting For Stevie
Posted: Wed September 11, 2024 2:28 pm
by VinylGuy
well when he plays it at stern it sounds like something from that era yes
Re: Waiting For Stevie
Posted: Wed September 11, 2024 2:41 pm
by Farmer John
That makes sense since Ed said (as part of his elaborate lie) that it was around No Code when he came up with it.
Re: Waiting For Stevie
Posted: Wed September 11, 2024 2:49 pm
by Aunt_Claire_Foy
McParadigm wrote:The riff doesn’t feel like ten to me at all. It sounds more like something Ed would come up with around the time of dead man….just played with 180% more rock and roll bluster.
Fair. Always struck me more like In Hiding with a bunch of that same rock and roll bluster.
Re: Waiting For Stevie
Posted: Wed September 11, 2024 2:50 pm
by epilogue
Man, you just can't trust a thing that guy says.
Re: Waiting For Stevie
Posted: Wed September 11, 2024 3:41 pm
by McParadigm
epilogue wrote:Man, you just can't trust a thing that guy says.
but he told me I could be loved
Re: Waiting For Stevie
Posted: Wed September 11, 2024 4:03 pm
by Jaeti
McParadigm wrote:epilogue wrote:Man, you just can't trust a thing that guy says.
but he told me I could be loved
Under very specific circumstances, you can be.
Re: Waiting For Stevie
Posted: Wed September 11, 2024 4:50 pm
by dimejinky99
McParadigm wrote:The riff doesn’t feel like ten to me at all. It sounds more like something Ed would come up with around the time of dead man….just played with 180% more rock and roll bluster.
Cmon McP
There’s nothing else comes close. The whole whole song is pure Ten
It almost stands out as it’s so different and distinct to the rest on DM
No?
Re: Waiting For Stevie
Posted: Wed September 11, 2024 5:09 pm
by VinylGuy
Farmer John wrote:That makes sense since Ed said (as part of his elaborate lie) that it was around No Code when he came up with it.
that evil mastermind almost got us, lucky us we have our posters with deep information to tell us the truth
Re: Waiting For Stevie
Posted: Wed September 11, 2024 5:17 pm
by stip
dimejinky99 wrote:McParadigm wrote:The riff doesn’t feel like ten to me at all. It sounds more like something Ed would come up with around the time of dead man….just played with 180% more rock and roll bluster.
Cmon McP
There’s nothing else comes close. The whole whole song is pure Ten
It almost stands out as it’s so different and distinct to the rest on DM
No?
The riff feels more like an Eddie riff than say a stone riff, and so less Ten in its feel. . The elements that are most Ten are the full lean into anthemic bombast, and Eddie crooning over the outro, which is in EVERY ten climax and then basically drops out of the catalog. And it is expansive in a way that feels very Ten. It is ten in its influences and performances. But not the riff.