Red Mosquito

bada wrote:

Anders wrote:

bada wrote:Not sure I’ve ever seen Anders negative about anything. I feel unsure about everything now.

I do try to stay mostly positive, but I am known around here for being critical of The Last Jedi, and as someone who watches quite a lot of movies, there are others as well of course. The misuse of time travel in Star Trek is one of those things.

What are your issues with Star Trek time travel? Put it in the Star Trek thread if you want we need more ST talk.

Anders wrote:

bada wrote:

Anders wrote:

bada wrote:Not sure I’ve ever seen Anders negative about anything. I feel unsure about everything now.

I do try to stay mostly positive, but I am known around here for being critical of The Last Jedi, and as someone who watches quite a lot of movies, there are others as well of course. The misuse of time travel in Star Trek is one of those things.

What are your issues with Star Trek time travel? Put it in the Star Trek thread if you want we need more ST talk.

Personally I would like to never see it happen, like in Star Wars. If the OT happened in Trek, they would save Alderaan by using time travel. It can fix any problem. To top it off they are inconsistent over the various shows with how it works. Usually a story is better without it.

Steve Albini wrote:Whenever there's active promotion on the part of somebody else, whenever I see somebody all dolled up for a fancy photograph and someone's handing out flyers or whenever there's active promotion for something like that, as an imposition on my day, I hate all those people and I want them to fail. I have a visceral reaction to advertising and promotion. There's just something about salesmanship that grates on me on a very base level and I react very negatively towards it. I want those people to suffer and I want their enterprises to fail.

Steve Albini wrote:Whenever there's active promotion on the part of somebody else, whenever I see somebody all dolled up for a fancy photograph and someone's handing out flyers or whenever there's active promotion for something like that, as an imposition on my day, I hate all those people and I want them to fail. I have a visceral reaction to advertising and promotion. There's just something about salesmanship that grates on me on a very base level and I react very negatively towards it. I want those people to suffer and I want their enterprises to fail.

bada wrote:Not sure I’ve ever seen Anders negative about anything. I feel unsure about everything now.

Jorge wrote:

bada wrote:Not sure I’ve ever seen Anders negative about anything. I feel unsure about everything now.

It's not the negativity that's surprising, it's how hilariously he missed the point

It's like someone walking out of Planet of the Apes and saying "if they had their own statue of liberty, why didn't it have an ape face? That didn't make sense"

Steve Albini wrote:Whenever there's active promotion on the part of somebody else, whenever I see somebody all dolled up for a fancy photograph and someone's handing out flyers or whenever there's active promotion for something like that, as an imposition on my day, I hate all those people and I want them to fail. I have a visceral reaction to advertising and promotion. There's just something about salesmanship that grates on me on a very base level and I react very negatively towards it. I want those people to suffer and I want their enterprises to fail.

Anders wrote:Big spoilers for Arrival.

Spoiler: show

« The aliens have come to help humanity, for in 3,000 years they will need humanity's help in return. Banks realizes the "weapon" is their language, and learning it alters humans' linear perception of time, allowing them to experience "memories" of future events. Banks's visions of her daughter, Hannah, are revealed actually to be premonitions; her daughter will not be born until some time in the future.

Banks returns to the camp as it is being evacuated and tells Donnelly that the aliens' language is the "tool". She has a premonition of a United Nations event celebrating newfound unity following the alien arrival, in which Shang thanks her for having persuaded him to stop the attack by calling his private number and reciting his wife's dying words: "War doesn't make winners, only widows."

In the present, Banks steals CIA agent Halpern's satellite phone, and calls Shang's number to recite the words. The Chinese announce that they are standing down and release their twelfth of the message. The other countries follow suit, and the twelve spacecraft depart.

During the evacuation, Donnelly expresses his love for Banks. They talk about life choices and whether he would change them if he could see the future. Banks knows that she will agree to have a child with him despite knowing their fate: that Hannah will die from an incurable disease, and Donnelly will leave them after she reveals that she knew this.

tragabigzanda wrote:it's wicked dumb that in Back to the Future 2, Marty didn't just travel to 2008 and pick the Giants. Makes no sense.

bada wrote:BTF is one of my favorite movies of all time. The sequels do nothing for me.

Anders wrote:

Jorge wrote:

bada wrote:Not sure I’ve ever seen Anders negative about anything. I feel unsure about everything now.

It's not the negativity that's surprising, it's how hilariously he missed the point

It's like someone walking out of Planet of the Apes and saying "if they had their own statue of liberty, why didn't it have an ape face? That didn't make sense"

I copied the whole end of the movie in a spoiler two pages back. Really don’t agree with your comparison here.

Steve Albini wrote:Whenever there's active promotion on the part of somebody else, whenever I see somebody all dolled up for a fancy photograph and someone's handing out flyers or whenever there's active promotion for something like that, as an imposition on my day, I hate all those people and I want them to fail. I have a visceral reaction to advertising and promotion. There's just something about salesmanship that grates on me on a very base level and I react very negatively towards it. I want those people to suffer and I want their enterprises to fail.

Jorge wrote:

Anders wrote:

Jorge wrote:

bada wrote:Not sure I’ve ever seen Anders negative about anything. I feel unsure about everything now.

It's not the negativity that's surprising, it's how hilariously he missed the point

It's like someone walking out of Planet of the Apes and saying "if they had their own statue of liberty, why didn't it have an ape face? That didn't make sense"

I copied the whole end of the movie in a spoiler two pages back. Really don’t agree with your comparison here.

You're taking the thematic core of the movie and mistaking it for a plot contrivance

tragabigzanda wrote:

BurtReynolds wrote:Toady we found out Anders's trigger: time.

I mean he watches 16 movies in a 24 hour day so he’s already mastered its secrets

Anders wrote:

tragabigzanda wrote:

BurtReynolds wrote:Toady we found out Anders's trigger: time.

I mean he watches 16 movies in a 24 hour day so he’s already mastered its secrets

This morning I got up at 5am, had watched two movies by nine. Baby woke up around eight, so helped her with milk, a clean diaper, some cuddles and got her drawing and playing by herself. Then we went out, she had her playtime outside, and eventually she slept for 90 minutes as I went for a long walk. So by 1 pm I had already had a full day, and seen two movies. Not a problem. Now it’s 1 am, time to sleep.

Steve Albini wrote:Whenever there's active promotion on the part of somebody else, whenever I see somebody all dolled up for a fancy photograph and someone's handing out flyers or whenever there's active promotion for something like that, as an imposition on my day, I hate all those people and I want them to fail. I have a visceral reaction to advertising and promotion. There's just something about salesmanship that grates on me on a very base level and I react very negatively towards it. I want those people to suffer and I want their enterprises to fail.

Anders wrote:

BurtReynolds wrote:

Anders wrote:Seeing time differently is part of why the plot is silly. Just a cheap way of telling a story.

Bad take, anders.

It’s the typical cheap sci-fi solution to anything. Oh it was some time-thing. That explains it.

E.H. Ruddock wrote:

Anders wrote:

BurtReynolds wrote:

Anders wrote:Seeing time differently is part of why the plot is silly. Just a cheap way of telling a story.

Bad take, anders.

It’s the typical cheap sci-fi solution to anything. Oh it was some time-thing. That explains it.

It's not "some time-thing" they just threw in at the end to explain away something. Every event that happens in the story is part of the whole "time-thing".