I could see him taking it to rally the remaining forces of Westeros. It would not shock me to see something like Cersei killing Dany and being victorious, Jamie killing Cersei, and Jon taking the throne after the white walkers overrun the north.
Re: HBO: Game of Thrones (Song of Ice and Fire)
Posted: Tue August 08, 2017 5:21 pm
by epilogue
I've always preferred Tyrion killing Cersei. But now that Jamie has been spared and survives against all odds to live and fight another day, I have to assume they have something epic in mind for him. So, yeah, he'll probably be the one who ends up killing Cersei. Whatever.
Re: HBO: Game of Thrones (Song of Ice and Fire)
Posted: Tue August 08, 2017 5:21 pm
by jwfocker
lowlight79 wrote:Wasn't some cast as Rhaegar for a flash back last year initially, but then again for this year and was cut?
Yeah it was Devin Oliver who was supposedly going to play Rhaegar.
Re: HBO: Game of Thrones (Song of Ice and Fire)
Posted: Tue August 08, 2017 5:22 pm
by Anders
It's the song of ice and fire, and in the show that will probably be a saga written by Sam. It might very well be that he is writing the saga about Jon Snow. Jon is ice and fire.
Re: HBO: Game of Thrones (Song of Ice and Fire)
Posted: Tue August 08, 2017 5:24 pm
by Anders
durdencommatyler wrote:I've always preferred Tyrion killing Cersei. But now that Jamie has been spared and survives against all odds to live and fight another day, I have to assume they have something epic in mind for him. So, yeah, he'll probably be the one who ends up killing Cersei. Whatever.
That will be the surprise for her. She knows the prophecy, but believes it's about Tyrion.
Re: HBO: Game of Thrones (Song of Ice and Fire)
Posted: Tue August 08, 2017 5:29 pm
by epilogue
Anders wrote:
durdencommatyler wrote:I've always preferred Tyrion killing Cersei. But now that Jamie has been spared and survives against all odds to live and fight another day, I have to assume they have something epic in mind for him. So, yeah, he'll probably be the one who ends up killing Cersei. Whatever.
That will be the surprise for her. She knows the prophecy, but believes it's about Tyrion.
Prophecy, shmophecy.
Here are the people who should get to kill Cercei: 1) Tyrio, 2) Sansa, 3) Arya, 4) Ellaria, 5) Dany
Then, fine, okay let Jaime do it.
Re: HBO: Game of Thrones (Song of Ice and Fire)
Posted: Tue August 08, 2017 5:41 pm
by Anders
durdencommatyler wrote:
Anders wrote:
durdencommatyler wrote:I've always preferred Tyrion killing Cersei. But now that Jamie has been spared and survives against all odds to live and fight another day, I have to assume they have something epic in mind for him. So, yeah, he'll probably be the one who ends up killing Cersei. Whatever.
That will be the surprise for her. She knows the prophecy, but believes it's about Tyrion.
Prophecy, shmophecy.
Here are the people who should get to kill Cercei: 1) Tyrio, 2) Sansa, 3) Arya, 4) Ellaria, 5) Dany
Then, fine, okay let Jaime do it.
Actually, what I like least in fantasy and sci-fi are things like time travel and prophecies. But the prophecy Cersei got, has all become true. Only thing remaining is her death I think.
Jamie is an amazing character, especially in the books.
Re: HBO: Game of Thrones (Song of Ice and Fire)
Posted: Tue August 08, 2017 5:45 pm
by epilogue
I agree about Jamie. He's a great character. Again, I'm not saying the prophecy won't come true. I'm just saying that I don't care. I'm saying regardless of the prophecy, those are the people that I'd like to see kill Cersei. Though, it'll probably be kind of a let down when it happens. Like Joffrey's death.
Re: HBO: Game of Thrones (Song of Ice and Fire)
Posted: Tue August 08, 2017 7:22 pm
by stip
durdencommatyler wrote:
Anders wrote:
durdencommatyler wrote:I've always preferred Tyrion killing Cersei. But now that Jamie has been spared and survives against all odds to live and fight another day, I have to assume they have something epic in mind for him. So, yeah, he'll probably be the one who ends up killing Cersei. Whatever.
That will be the surprise for her. She knows the prophecy, but believes it's about Tyrion.
Prophecy, shmophecy.
Here are the people who should get to kill Cercei: 1) Tyrio, 2) Sansa, 3) Arya, 4) Ellaria, 5) Dany
Then, fine, okay let Jaime do it.
Tyrion is a bit too obvious. That wouldn't be satisfying. And Ellaria is just as horrible as she is!
Re: HBO: Game of Thrones (Song of Ice and Fire)
Posted: Tue August 08, 2017 7:30 pm
by Anders
stip wrote:
durdencommatyler wrote:
Anders wrote:
durdencommatyler wrote:I've always preferred Tyrion killing Cersei. But now that Jamie has been spared and survives against all odds to live and fight another day, I have to assume they have something epic in mind for him. So, yeah, he'll probably be the one who ends up killing Cersei. Whatever.
That will be the surprise for her. She knows the prophecy, but believes it's about Tyrion.
Prophecy, shmophecy.
Here are the people who should get to kill Cercei: 1) Tyrio, 2) Sansa, 3) Arya, 4) Ellaria, 5) Dany
Then, fine, okay let Jaime do it.
Tyrion is a bit too obvious. That wouldn't be satisfying. And Ellaria is just as horrible as she is!
Cersei: When will I wed the prince?
Maggy: Never. You will wed the king.
Cersei: I will be queen, though?
Maggy: Aye. Queen you shall be... until there comes another, younger and more beautiful, to cast you down and take all that you hold dear.
Cersei: Will the king and I have children?
Maggy: Oh, aye. Six-and-ten for him, and three for you. Gold shall be their crowns and gold their shrouds, she said. And when your tears have drowned you, the valonqar shall wrap his hands about your pale white throat and choke the life from you.
In her youth, Cersei Lannister received a prophecy from Maggy the frog that she would die at the hands of the "valonqar", which is the word for "little brother" in High Valyrian. No one person has been confirmed to fill this role.
This could also be little sister. But unless the Mad King is the father of Jamie and Cersei, she has no sister.
There has been some speculation that Jamie and Cersei are siblings of Daenarys.
Re: HBO: Game of Thrones (Song of Ice and Fire)
Posted: Tue August 08, 2017 7:55 pm
by tragabigzanda
Steve Albini wrote:Whenever there's active promotion on the part of somebody else, whenever I see somebody all dolled up for a fancy photograph and someone's handing out flyers or whenever there's active promotion for something like that, as an imposition on my day, I hate all those people and I want them to fail. I have a visceral reaction to advertising and promotion. There's just something about salesmanship that grates on me on a very base level and I react very negatively towards it. I want those people to suffer and I want their enterprises to fail.
Re: HBO: Game of Thrones (Song of Ice and Fire)
Posted: Tue August 08, 2017 8:05 pm
by BurtReynolds
I agree with whoever said prophecies are lame, and there is way too much of that stuff going on.
Ellaria might kill the Mountain somehow? Unless they've completely given up on Dorne. In which case, she's doomed.
Re: HBO: Game of Thrones (Song of Ice and Fire)
Posted: Tue August 08, 2017 8:16 pm
by Norah
the prophecies are cool for their psychological implications and what they drive the characters to do
Re: HBO: Game of Thrones (Song of Ice and Fire)
Posted: Tue August 08, 2017 8:28 pm
by stip
who will bring balance to Westeros?
Re: HBO: Game of Thrones (Song of Ice and Fire)
Posted: Tue August 08, 2017 8:35 pm
by kreng
BurtReynolds wrote:I agree with whoever said prophecies are lame, and there is way too much of that stuff going on.
Ellaria might kill the Mountain somehow? Unless they've completely given up on Dorne. In which case, she's doomed.
Indira Varma has mentioned in numerous interviews that the dungeon scene was her last one and the writers have told her she's considered dead
Re: HBO: Game of Thrones (Song of Ice and Fire)
Posted: Tue August 08, 2017 9:18 pm
by Anders
George R. R. Martin has previously stated that Dorne is roughly equal in military strength to the north and Vale. How then can Dorne be completely gone in the tv series just because they killed a few characters. Dorne has been completely mishandled in the show. Best tv show in history, with very few mistakes. But Dorne has been boring and misused.
Re: HBO: Game of Thrones (Song of Ice and Fire)
Posted: Tue August 08, 2017 9:18 pm
by BurtReynolds
kreng wrote:
BurtReynolds wrote:I agree with whoever said prophecies are lame, and there is way too much of that stuff going on.
Ellaria might kill the Mountain somehow? Unless they've completely given up on Dorne. In which case, she's doomed.
Indira Varma has mentioned in numerous interviews that the dungeon scene was her last one and the writers have told her she's considered dead
welp
Re: HBO: Game of Thrones (Song of Ice and Fire)
Posted: Tue August 08, 2017 9:19 pm
by Norah
Dorne has been an abomination. The Iron Islands too, really.
Re: HBO: Game of Thrones (Song of Ice and Fire)
Posted: Tue August 08, 2017 9:22 pm
by Anders
cutuphalfdead wrote:Dorne has been an abomination. The Iron Islands too, really.
The Iron Islands could have been so much better as well. Agreed.
Re: HBO: Game of Thrones (Song of Ice and Fire)
Posted: Tue August 08, 2017 9:24 pm
by epilogue
stip wrote:
durdencommatyler wrote:
Anders wrote:
durdencommatyler wrote:I've always preferred Tyrion killing Cersei. But now that Jamie has been spared and survives against all odds to live and fight another day, I have to assume they have something epic in mind for him. So, yeah, he'll probably be the one who ends up killing Cersei. Whatever.
That will be the surprise for her. She knows the prophecy, but believes it's about Tyrion.
Prophecy, shmophecy.
Here are the people who should get to kill Cercei: 1) Tyrio, 2) Sansa, 3) Arya, 4) Ellaria, 5) Dany
Then, fine, okay let Jaime do it.
Tyrion is a bit too obvious. That wouldn't be satisfying. And Ellaria is just as horrible as she is!
You're telling me that you would get satisfaction as a viewer watching Tyrion take out Cersei? That would be boring for you?