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Re: Election 2020

Posted: Wed August 12, 2020 10:39 pm
by B
That was Hilary's chances on Election Day, right?

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Re: Election 2020

Posted: Thu August 13, 2020 12:37 am
by Electromatic
simple schoolboy wrote: Lysander Spooner finally gets his revenge.
Lysander Spooner’s Revenge would be a hell of a boat name.

Re: Election 2020

Posted: Thu August 13, 2020 12:47 am
by 96583UP
i think Kamala has the brains and skills that if she spends 4 years in the white house as a VP, surrounded by experienced ex-Obama era officials, she will learn a great deal and develop into a 'better politician' addressing what some seem to think is one of her biggest shortcomings when it comes to running as a Prez candidate in 4-8 years

Re: Election 2020

Posted: Thu August 13, 2020 12:48 am
by 96583UP
also she is from CA and has a lot of hollywood friends

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Re: Election 2020

Posted: Thu August 13, 2020 12:54 am
by The Argonaut
96583UP wrote:i think Kamala has the brains and skills that if she spends 4 years in the white house as a VP, surrounded by experienced ex-Obama era officials, she will learn a great deal and develop into a 'better politician' addressing what some seem to think is one of her biggest shortcomings when it comes to running as a Prez candidate in 4-8 years
Here's why I disagree: the Vice Presidency is a lame job and most people look lame doing it. The reason Biden looked good as Vice President is because it allowed him proximity to super-cool, celebrity, rock star Barack Obama. Proximity to Biden will not be as helpful to Harris's image. Biden is no rockstar. Vice-Presidents have, in recent history, had the inside track to a party's nomination, but that was in the era of "The Party Decides", and that era is over.

Re: Election 2020

Posted: Thu August 13, 2020 12:58 am
by 96583UP
The Argonaut wrote:
96583UP wrote:i think Kamala has the brains and skills that if she spends 4 years in the white house as a VP, surrounded by experienced ex-Obama era officials, she will learn a great deal and develop into a 'better politician' addressing what some seem to think is one of her biggest shortcomings when it comes to running as a Prez candidate in 4-8 years
Here's why I disagree: the Vice Presidency is a lame job and most people look lame doing it. The reason Biden looked good as Vice President is because it allowed him proximity to super-cool, celebrity, rock star Barack Obama. Proximity to Biden will not be as helpful to Harris's image. Biden is no rockstar. Vice-Presidents have, in recent history, had the inside track to a party's nomination, but that was in the era of "The Party Decides", and that era is over.
so your argument is:

she would not develop into a better politician after 4 years around experienced people, because other Vice Presidents are lame-looking

hard to disagree with that

Re: Election 2020

Posted: Thu August 13, 2020 12:59 am
by tragabigzanda
FUCK ICE

Re: Election 2020

Posted: Thu August 13, 2020 1:21 am
by elliseamos
This election isn't going to happen.

Re: Election 2020

Posted: Thu August 13, 2020 1:24 am
by 96583UP
stop talking crazy

it's going to happen

it's just going to be fraught with fraud, disenfranchisement, internet misinformation, postal ballot malfunction, recounts, lawsuits, and ultimately a supreme court decision where Brett Kavanaugh must cast the deciding vote

everything's going to be fine

Re: Election 2020

Posted: Thu August 13, 2020 1:26 am
by elliseamos
96583UP wrote:stop talking crazy

it's going to happen

it's just going to be fraught with fraud, disenfranchisement, internet misinformation, postal ballot malfunction, recounts, lawsuits, and ultimately a supreme court decision where Brett Kavanaugh must cast the deciding vote

everything's going to be fine
Too much could go wrong there.

Just cancel it.

Boom, played your game, Cancel Culture. And the winning continues!!

Re: Election 2020

Posted: Thu August 13, 2020 1:29 am
by doug rr
i don't have enough whiskey gifs for another 4 years guys....

Re: Election 2020

Posted: Thu August 13, 2020 1:54 am
by elliseamos
doug rr wrote:i don't have enough whiskey gifs for another 4 years guys....
Not to worry. The internet will be canceled too.

Re: Election 2020

Posted: Thu August 13, 2020 2:36 am
by McParadigm
Russian memes: the campaign

Re: Election 2020

Posted: Thu August 13, 2020 2:39 am
by E.H. Ruddock
Eddie Grant is gonna be pissed

Re: Election 2020

Posted: Thu August 13, 2020 2:40 am
by 96583UP
that's how you win back the white college-educated suburban women vote right there

Re: Election 2020

Posted: Thu August 13, 2020 2:40 am
by McParadigm
:lol:

Re: Election 2020

Posted: Thu August 13, 2020 2:55 am
by Mickey
96583UP wrote:
The Argonaut wrote:
96583UP wrote:i think Kamala has the brains and skills that if she spends 4 years in the white house as a VP, surrounded by experienced ex-Obama era officials, she will learn a great deal and develop into a 'better politician' addressing what some seem to think is one of her biggest shortcomings when it comes to running as a Prez candidate in 4-8 years
Here's why I disagree: the Vice Presidency is a lame job and most people look lame doing it. The reason Biden looked good as Vice President is because it allowed him proximity to super-cool, celebrity, rock star Barack Obama. Proximity to Biden will not be as helpful to Harris's image. Biden is no rockstar. Vice-Presidents have, in recent history, had the inside track to a party's nomination, but that was in the era of "The Party Decides", and that era is over.
so your argument is:

she would not develop into a better politician after 4 years around experienced people, because other Vice Presidents are lame-looking

hard to disagree with that
A better version of this argument would be: four years of being attached to Biden and his policies are not going to make Kamala appealing to an electorate that, in the next four to eight years, is going to be increasingly intolerant of neoliberal market ontology and means-testing in a situation of deepening crisis. I'm not sure I agree with it 100%, but that's the real problem with hitching your train to the Biden wagon.

Re: Election 2020

Posted: Thu August 13, 2020 3:00 am
by tragabigzanda
FUCK ICE

Re: Election 2020

Posted: Thu August 13, 2020 3:03 am
by spike
tragabigzanda wrote:
Mickey wrote:
96583UP wrote:
The Argonaut wrote:
96583UP wrote:i think Kamala has the brains and skills that if she spends 4 years in the white house as a VP, surrounded by experienced ex-Obama era officials, she will learn a great deal and develop into a 'better politician' addressing what some seem to think is one of her biggest shortcomings when it comes to running as a Prez candidate in 4-8 years
Here's why I disagree: the Vice Presidency is a lame job and most people look lame doing it. The reason Biden looked good as Vice President is because it allowed him proximity to super-cool, celebrity, rock star Barack Obama. Proximity to Biden will not be as helpful to Harris's image. Biden is no rockstar. Vice-Presidents have, in recent history, had the inside track to a party's nomination, but that was in the era of "The Party Decides", and that era is over.
so your argument is:

she would not develop into a better politician after 4 years around experienced people, because other Vice Presidents are lame-looking

hard to disagree with that
A better version of this argument would be: four years of being attached to Biden and his policies are not going to make Kamala appealing to an electorate that, in the next four to eight years, is going to be increasingly intolerant of neoliberal market ontology and means-testing in a situation of deepening crisis. I'm not sure I agree with it 100%, but that's the real problem with hitching your train to the Biden wagon.
Also she’ll have to spend an inordinate amount of time pretending she doesn’t hear a bunch of old man digestive sounds
or the butt grabs

Re: Election 2020

Posted: Thu August 13, 2020 4:36 am
by Simple Torture
McParadigm wrote:Russian memes: the campaign
Are they so low on cash that they could only afford the Grand Theft Auto III engine?