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Re: Star Wars: Episode IX: The Rise of Skywalker

Posted: Tue October 22, 2019 3:10 pm
by Monkey_Driven
wease wrote:
E.H. Ruddock wrote:I may be in the minority, but I'd still like to find out who the fuck Snoke was
If you're in the minority, I'm there with you. I was literally just getting ready to type the same thing. So I guess he's part of some overall plan Palpatine has?
If he is, it would be nice to have something more than a throwaway line.

Re: Star Wars: Episode IX: The Rise of Skywalker

Posted: Tue October 22, 2019 3:19 pm
by dimejinky99
Can’t figure the Snoke of it all out.
The comic where he goes to dagobah pretty much lays out he knew Luke and tried to turn him and failed or something to that effect

But was he in on palps plan to return? Caretaker emperor?

I’m stumped

Re: Star Wars: Episode IX: The Rise of Skywalker

Posted: Tue October 22, 2019 3:22 pm
by VinylGuy
Snoke yeah. Im sure JJ will tell us what his part was.

Re: Star Wars: Episode IX: The Rise of Skywalker

Posted: Tue October 22, 2019 3:28 pm
by Monkey_Driven
Got tickets for 6:05 pm on the 19th. 8-)

Re: Star Wars: Episode IX: The Rise of Skywalker

Posted: Tue October 22, 2019 3:30 pm
by Coach
Monkey_Driven wrote:My major concerns:

- Making all three trilogies tie together in one movie (wrapping up this trilogy alone is a tough ask).
- Palpatine as the big bad. It's going to take a bit of exposition to explain what he has been doing for 30+ years without relying on side stuff outside of the movies. This exposition will take time away from the characters introduced in the first two movies.
- Trying to tie up loose ends. Not everything needs to be answered.
- Rey's background being related to Skywalkers, Kenobis, Palptatine, etc. Just let her be a nobody the Skywalkers train for future generations.
- I have a feeling they will bungle Kylo's redemption/downfall.
- What are the minor characters going to be doing in this story? Will they have enough screen time to care about their journey? Will they get to do grounded, cool stuff?
- As noted by VG, I have concerns about an End Game all out brawl being directed in a competent way. Has the potential to more fans service than story service.

I still plan to see this movie with an open mind and enjoy the spectacle.
Agree, how will they explain that Palps knew Vader was going to toss him into the Death Star? Unless Palps figured out how to be a force ghost, which I could stomach - a dark side force ghost seems fair and not unreasonable.

The other far fetched theory is Palps coming back from the dead in human form, learning from his master as explained in Revenge of the Sith.

Re: Star Wars: Episode IX: The Rise of Skywalker

Posted: Tue October 22, 2019 3:30 pm
by dimejinky99
Midnight opening for me.

Not doing the tfa tlj screenings beforehand

Re: Star Wars: Episode IX: The Rise of Skywalker

Posted: Tue October 22, 2019 3:31 pm
by dimejinky99
Coach wrote:
Monkey_Driven wrote:My major concerns:

- Making all three trilogies tie together in one movie (wrapping up this trilogy alone is a tough ask).
- Palpatine as the big bad. It's going to take a bit of exposition to explain what he has been doing for 30+ years without relying on side stuff outside of the movies. This exposition will take time away from the characters introduced in the first two movies.
- Trying to tie up loose ends. Not everything needs to be answered.
- Rey's background being related to Skywalkers, Kenobis, Palptatine, etc. Just let her be a nobody the Skywalkers train for future generations.
- I have a feeling they will bungle Kylo's redemption/downfall.
- What are the minor characters going to be doing in this story? Will they have enough screen time to care about their journey? Will they get to do grounded, cool stuff?
- As noted by VG, I have concerns about an End Game all out brawl being directed in a competent way. Has the potential to more fans service than story service.

I still plan to see this movie with an open mind and enjoy the spectacle.
Agree, how will they explain that Palps knew Vader was going to toss him into the Death Star? Unless Palps figured out how to be a force ghost, which I could stomach - a dark side force ghost seems fair and not unreasonable.

The other far fetched theory is Palps coming back from the dead in human form, learning from his master as explained in Revenge of the Sith.

The latter is far more likely

Re: Star Wars: Episode IX: The Rise of Skywalker

Posted: Tue October 22, 2019 3:34 pm
by Monkey_Driven
Another major concern:

-Force ghosts doing any sort of fighting

Re: Star Wars: Episode IX: The Rise of Skywalker

Posted: Tue October 22, 2019 3:41 pm
by Coach
I have confidence that Force Ghosts will not fight. They never have. The closest they came to interaction was Yoda lighting fire to that tree in TLJ and no one seemed to like that.

Re: Star Wars: Episode IX: The Rise of Skywalker

Posted: Tue October 22, 2019 3:41 pm
by lowlight79
I'm still not convinced that Kylo's in the repaired mask. It's more sense now after JJ explained it. But something is up.

Re: Star Wars: Episode IX: The Rise of Skywalker

Posted: Tue October 22, 2019 4:02 pm
by Monkey_Driven
Coach wrote:I have confidence that Force Ghosts will not fight. They never have. The closest they came to interaction was Yoda lighting fire to that tree in TLJ and no one seemed to like that.
True, but new Jedi powers have been introduced in each film. Maybe that's the new one?

(I liked Yoda lighting the tree on fire...)

Re: Star Wars: Episode IX: The Rise of Skywalker

Posted: Tue October 22, 2019 4:10 pm
by dimejinky99
This trailer is better than any of the TLJ trailers.

Re: Star Wars: Episode IX: The Rise of Skywalker

Posted: Tue October 22, 2019 4:17 pm
by Coach
Monkey_Driven wrote:
Coach wrote:I have confidence that Force Ghosts will not fight. They never have. The closest they came to interaction was Yoda lighting fire to that tree in TLJ and no one seemed to like that.
True, but new Jedi powers have been introduced in each film. Maybe that's the new one?

(I liked Yoda lighting the tree on fire...)
Good point. And for the record, I had no issue with him lighting the tree on fire either

Re: Star Wars: Episode IX: The Rise of Skywalker

Posted: Tue October 22, 2019 4:20 pm
by dimejinky99
Did people really have a problem with that?
Never saw anyone complain.

He’s in the force he can probably manipulate anything he wants.

Re: Star Wars: Episode IX: The Rise of Skywalker

Posted: Tue October 22, 2019 4:32 pm
by blueviper
So the trailer was pretty big. Lots of great visuals and adventurous feeling.

I don't know what to think about the whole Emperor thing as well. And while the C-3P0 lines was all sorts of schmaltz, it's hard to see the new ST characters as his friends. But I'm looking at it through my eyes and thoughts, since I've had a hard time connecting with the ST characters as well.

they've thrown a lot against the wall, hoping something will stick.

Should be an interesting December.

Re: Star Wars: Episode IX: The Rise of Skywalker

Posted: Tue October 22, 2019 4:36 pm
by blueviper
dimejinky99 wrote:Did people really have a problem with that?
Never saw anyone complain.

He’s in the force he can probably manipulate anything he wants.
I didn't even put two and two together that FG Yoda was manipulating the physical world until reading about it afterwards.

So maybe there is a limit to the interaction between force world and physical. Didn't Yoda/Obi-Wan in ROTJ or ESB say they couldn't help Luke against Darth Vader?

Re: Star Wars: Episode IX: The Rise of Skywalker

Posted: Tue October 22, 2019 4:38 pm
by Anders
Yoda and Obi-Wan should have put Death Star number two on fire.

Re: Star Wars: Episode IX: The Rise of Skywalker

Posted: Tue October 22, 2019 4:49 pm
by Strat
Hey guys.

I can't fucking wait. Dammit.

Re: Star Wars: Episode IX: The Rise of Skywalker

Posted: Tue October 22, 2019 4:49 pm
by blueviper
Anders wrote:Yoda and Obi-Wan should have put Death Star number two on fire.
And then they could have sung a a duet

Re: Star Wars: Episode IX: The Rise of Skywalker

Posted: Tue October 22, 2019 4:52 pm
by epilogue
Strat wrote:Hey guys.

I can't fucking wait. Dammit.
I'm beyond excited for this, buddy. There was so much in that trailer that has me fired up. This is going to be great.