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Re: The Protest Thread

Posted: Fri June 19, 2020 1:19 pm
by Peeps
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elliseamos wrote:Watching it a few more times I think the skateboard broke.
an rangi just had a panic attack :(

Re: The Protest Thread

Posted: Fri June 19, 2020 1:27 pm
by Rob
elliseamos wrote:Watching it a few more times I think the skateboard broke.
That's what it looks like to me. Wheels came off, probably.

Re: The Protest Thread

Posted: Fri June 19, 2020 3:09 pm
by Mickey
I could have put this in any number of threads, and it's mostly spinning off of my post here, but I hate that thread so here works fine.

Ole Miss’s Monument to White Supremacy: New evidence shows what the 30-foot-tall Confederate memorial was actually meant to commemorate.

It's pretty short, but they uncovered the speech for the dedication of the Confederate monument at the University of Mississippi, and it's uhh...not good. Here's the money shot:
Toward the end of the speech, however, Scott gave voice to the kinds of explicitly racist ideas that modern defenders of Confederate monuments generally no longer air publicly. The “crowning glory” of Confederate soldiers, he declared, was their service “during the nightmare called the reconstruction,” when they “boldly, aggressively, and intentionally overrode the letter of the law, that they might maintain the spirit of the law and preserve Anglo Saxon civilization.” Rather than singling out the war itself, in other words, Scott called attention to Confederate soldiers’ actions in the Reconstruction years that followed, when the former Confederate states were reincorporated into the Union and white southerners violently resisted the elevation of black southerners to full equality.

[...] We have been told repeatedly that these monuments were the products of grief. But in reality, as Scott made clear, they were a celebration. On that day in May 1906, he could stand atop the dais confident that he and the assembled crowd still enjoyed the Herrenvolk democracy that the Confederate defeat and Reconstruction had, for a time, threatened to overturn. It was a day of jubilee. Scott did not want to reflect upon what had been lost, but rather, what had been won.
This, of course, has been the case elsewhere too (it's almost identical to the dedication to Silent Sam at UNC, which took place in 1913). Useful information for any dolt carping on about erasing history and dishonoring the dead.

Re: The Protest Thread

Posted: Fri June 19, 2020 6:33 pm
by BurtReynolds
So she dismisses nearly everything as mere "boilerplate"... Oh ok. "These aren't monuments to grief because some politician a hundred years ago threw in a bit about reconstruction at the end in some flailing attempt at a silver lining! It's not about the war at all. Got 'em!" Lol it's so clear.

What would an acceptable monument to honoring dead confederate soldiers look like to carpetbagging journalists and professors? If even one possible racist at some point was even mildly associated with it, does that discredit the entire thing? Just admit there isn't an acceptable monument and the south isn't allowed to honor their dead because of slavery, so we can have the real conversation.

Re: The Protest Thread

Posted: Fri June 19, 2020 6:34 pm
by Strat
BurtReynolds wrote:So she dismisses nearly everything as mere "boilerplate"... Oh ok. "These aren't monuments to grief because some politician a hundred years ago threw in a bit about reconstruction at the end in some flailing attempt at a silver lining! It's not about the war at all. Got 'em!" Lol it's so clear.

What would an acceptable monument to honoring dead confederate soldiers look like to carpetbagging journalists and professors? If even one possible racist at some point was even mildly associated with it, does that discredit the entire thing? Just admit there isn't an acceptable monument and the south isn't allowed to honor their dead because of slavery, so we can have the real conversation.
You dont care though burt

Re: The Protest Thread

Posted: Fri June 19, 2020 6:37 pm
by Mickey
Increasingly unhinged.

Re: The Protest Thread

Posted: Fri June 19, 2020 6:40 pm
by epilogue
I would like to see graphs like these also depict different subsets of people who never think any conversation is the real conversation.

Re: The Protest Thread

Posted: Fri June 19, 2020 6:41 pm
by BurtReynolds
The strat/durden combo rears it's ugly head.

Re: The Protest Thread

Posted: Fri June 19, 2020 6:43 pm
by epilogue
Like a double rainbow!

Re: The Protest Thread

Posted: Fri June 19, 2020 6:43 pm
by Bi_3
Strat wrote:
BurtReynolds wrote:So she dismisses nearly everything as mere "boilerplate"... Oh ok. "These aren't monuments to grief because some politician a hundred years ago threw in a bit about reconstruction at the end in some flailing attempt at a silver lining! It's not about the war at all. Got 'em!" Lol it's so clear.

What would an acceptable monument to honoring dead confederate soldiers look like to carpetbagging journalists and professors? If even one possible racist at some point was even mildly associated with it, does that discredit the entire thing? Just admit there isn't an acceptable monument and the south isn't allowed to honor their dead because of slavery, so we can have the real conversation.
You dont care though burt
When they come for the Washington Monument and Jefferson Memorial, he'll care.

Re: The Protest Thread

Posted: Fri June 19, 2020 6:46 pm
by Peeps
there are only three statues im glad to see

lemieux outside of the arena
francos in the pgh airport
and the one of limitations

Re: The Protest Thread

Posted: Fri June 19, 2020 6:47 pm
by Strat
prince statues or stfu

Re: The Protest Thread

Posted: Fri June 19, 2020 6:48 pm
by Bi_3
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Re: The Protest Thread

Posted: Fri June 19, 2020 6:48 pm
by tragabigzanda
FUCK ICE

Re: The Protest Thread

Posted: Fri June 19, 2020 6:49 pm
by epilogue
Bi_3 wrote:Image
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Re: The Protest Thread

Posted: Fri June 19, 2020 6:49 pm
by BurtReynolds
Bi_3 wrote:
Strat wrote:
BurtReynolds wrote:So she dismisses nearly everything as mere "boilerplate"... Oh ok. "These aren't monuments to grief because some politician a hundred years ago threw in a bit about reconstruction at the end in some flailing attempt at a silver lining! It's not about the war at all. Got 'em!" Lol it's so clear.

What would an acceptable monument to honoring dead confederate soldiers look like to carpetbagging journalists and professors? If even one possible racist at some point was even mildly associated with it, does that discredit the entire thing? Just admit there isn't an acceptable monument and the south isn't allowed to honor their dead because of slavery, so we can have the real conversation.
You dont care though burt
When they come for the Washington Monument and Jefferson Memorial, he'll care.
Lol that'll never happen. I think we're safe from that forev-- uh...

Re: The Protest Thread

Posted: Fri June 19, 2020 6:50 pm
by Strat
i wonder who hates antifa more? burt or trump?

Re: The Protest Thread

Posted: Fri June 19, 2020 6:50 pm
by epilogue
"antifa"

Re: The Protest Thread

Posted: Fri June 19, 2020 6:51 pm
by epilogue
Strat wrote:i wonder who hates antifa more? burt or trump?
Who hates leprechauns more? Bigfoot or Santa?

Re: The Protest Thread

Posted: Fri June 19, 2020 6:51 pm
by BurtReynolds
Strat wrote:i wonder who hates antifa more? burt or trump?
Oh me easily. Trump still thinks he can score points off them.