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Re: Waiting For Stevie

Posted: Wed September 11, 2024 5:30 pm
by Jorge
Crooning?

Oh yeah he does kinda croon

Re: Waiting For Stevie

Posted: Wed September 11, 2024 5:31 pm
by RockPusher
stip wrote:
dimejinky99 wrote:
McParadigm wrote:The riff doesn’t feel like ten to me at all. It sounds more like something Ed would come up with around the time of dead man….just played with 180% more rock and roll bluster.

Cmon McP

There’s nothing else comes close. The whole whole song is pure Ten
It almost stands out as it’s so different and distinct to the rest on DM

No?
The riff feels more like an Eddie riff than say a stone riff, and so less Ten in its feel. . The elements that are most Ten are the full lean into anthemic bombast, and Eddie crooning over the outro, which is in EVERY ten climax and then basically drops out of the catalog. And it is expansive in a way that feels very Ten. It is ten in its influences and performances. But not the riff.
Spot on.

And again, for the small number of hand-wringers worried about Watt's songwriting credits on this one, he's got a music songwriting credit on every track on the album. No, that does not mean this isn't a Pearl Jam album. It's just how he rolls. BO'B, Parashar, and others have had as much influence in other ways with this band.

Re: Waiting For Stevie

Posted: Wed September 11, 2024 5:37 pm
by tragabigzanda
pearl jam sucks now

Re: Waiting For Stevie

Posted: Wed September 11, 2024 6:16 pm
by Strat
Watt didn't impinge on my bands pure punk rock ethos. You should listen to us instead.

:hooray:

Re: Waiting For Stevie

Posted: Wed September 11, 2024 6:33 pm
by stip
slight change of subject. this ruled live

Re: Waiting For Stevie

Posted: Wed September 11, 2024 6:46 pm
by RockPusher
trag, will you ever forgive Pearl Jam for not having had Albini as their producer?

Re: Waiting For Stevie

Posted: Wed September 11, 2024 6:56 pm
by tragabigzanda
pearl jam sucks now

Re: Waiting For Stevie

Posted: Wed September 11, 2024 7:54 pm
by RockPusher
tragabigzanda wrote:
RockPusher wrote:trag, will you ever forgive Pearl Jam for not having had Albini as their producer?
Would've been a horrible match!
I had originally typed that in my post- fully agree

Re: Waiting For Stevie

Posted: Wed September 11, 2024 8:05 pm
by tragabigzanda
pearl jam sucks now

Re: Waiting For Stevie

Posted: Wed September 11, 2024 8:14 pm
by Chris_H_2
tragabigzanda wrote:A return to Tchad Blake is my dream producer, but my #2 is Alan Moulder
is that the guy from the x-files?

Re: Waiting For Stevie

Posted: Wed September 11, 2024 8:33 pm
by Monkey_Driven
tragabigzanda wrote:
RockPusher wrote:
stip wrote:
dimejinky99 wrote:
McParadigm wrote:The riff doesn’t feel like ten to me at all. It sounds more like something Ed would come up with around the time of dead man….just played with 180% more rock and roll bluster.

Cmon McP

There’s nothing else comes close. The whole whole song is pure Ten
It almost stands out as it’s so different and distinct to the rest on DM

No?
The riff feels more like an Eddie riff than say a stone riff, and so less Ten in its feel. . The elements that are most Ten are the full lean into anthemic bombast, and Eddie crooning over the outro, which is in EVERY ten climax and then basically drops out of the catalog. And it is expansive in a way that feels very Ten. It is ten in its influences and performances. But not the riff.
Spot on.

And again, for the small number of hand-wringers worried about Watt's songwriting credits on this one, he's got a music songwriting credit on every track on the album. No, that does not mean this isn't a Pearl Jam album. It's just how he rolls. BO'B, Parashar, and others have had as much influence in other ways with this band.
To clarify, he is rolling with "Pay me a day rate for my session time, and also a portion of your publishing revenues, in perpetuity, because I've helped you write these songs."
Hey, that wardrobe isn't going to pay for itself!

Re: Waiting For Stevie

Posted: Wed September 11, 2024 9:09 pm
by Birds in Hell
tragabigzanda wrote:A return to Tchad Blake is my dream producer, but my #2 is Alan Moulder
Would be thrilled with either of these.

I thought Gigaton was a minor triumph in both creative approach and sonics, so I would've been happy to see them continue plugging away in the warehouse with Josh Evans for another few records.

Re: Waiting For Stevie

Posted: Wed September 11, 2024 9:21 pm
by VinylGuy
i would want:

-Jack White
-Josh Evans
-Rick Rubin

Re: Waiting For Stevie

Posted: Wed September 11, 2024 9:26 pm
by Birds in Hell
VinylGuy wrote:i would want:

-Jack White
-Josh Evans
-Rick Rubin
I think I would give up all hope if the band enlisted either of those other dudes.

Rubin's such a hack.

Re: Waiting For Stevie

Posted: Thu September 12, 2024 6:07 am
by dimejinky99
stip wrote:
dimejinky99 wrote:
McParadigm wrote:The riff doesn’t feel like ten to me at all. It sounds more like something Ed would come up with around the time of dead man….just played with 180% more rock and roll bluster.

Cmon McP

There’s nothing else comes close. The whole whole song is pure Ten
It almost stands out as it’s so different and distinct to the rest on DM

No?
The riff feels more like an Eddie riff than say a stone riff, and so less Ten in its feel. . The elements that are most Ten are the full lean into anthemic bombast, and Eddie crooning over the outro, which is in EVERY ten climax and then basically drops out of the catalog. And it is expansive in a way that feels very Ten. It is ten in its influences and performances. But not the riff.

Good shout. I was thinking about energy and that time.

It’s a twin brother to Release if you think about it.

Would’ve made interesting bookends

Re: Waiting For Stevie

Posted: Thu September 12, 2024 6:09 am
by dimejinky99
tragabigzanda wrote:
RockPusher wrote:trag, will you ever forgive Pearl Jam for not having had Albini as their producer?
Would've been a horrible match!

I’ve spoken to him about this

Re: Waiting For Stevie

Posted: Thu September 12, 2024 6:11 am
by dimejinky99
Birds in Hell wrote:
tragabigzanda wrote:A return to Tchad Blake is my dream producer, but my #2 is Alan Moulder
Would be thrilled with either of these.

I thought Gigaton was a minor triumph in both creative approach and sonics, so I would've been happy to see them continue plugging away in the warehouse with Josh Evans for another few records.

Exactly this ^^

Except gigaton is a major triumph there’s nothing minor about it.

Re: Waiting For Stevie

Posted: Thu September 12, 2024 1:35 pm
by Jaeti
dimejinky99 wrote:
Birds in Hell wrote:
tragabigzanda wrote:A return to Tchad Blake is my dream producer, but my #2 is Alan Moulder
Would be thrilled with either of these.

I thought Gigaton was a minor triumph in both creative approach and sonics, so I would've been happy to see them continue plugging away in the warehouse with Josh Evans for another few records.

Exactly this ^^

Except gigaton is a major triumph there’s nothing minor about it.

Re: Waiting For Stevie

Posted: Thu September 12, 2024 2:02 pm
by stip
its an incredible record, but Gigaton (by design) doesnt feel major. its a little too long, rambling, introspective in a stream of consciousness kind of way - probably reflecting how it was developed. Its the No Code to Dark Matter’s Yield in that way

Re: Waiting For Stevie

Posted: Thu September 12, 2024 2:09 pm
by tragabigzanda
pearl jam sucks now