Red Mosquito

harmless wrote:

theplatypus wrote:The interesting thing about this song is

"Interesting" is relative. There's lots to like about it.

The interesting part is the synthesizer thing that powers the whole thing instead of guitars. Thing.

harmless wrote:This one's getting better. I really wasn't sure but it's rescued itself back from the brink, I think.

Dude, it seems like you like the song and want to like the song, but are held back by realizing that it's poppier than it needs to be and a belief that objectively it doesn't do anything particularly groundbreaking. Just enjoy the song. If you like it, you like it. That's fine. And if you don't like it, well, that's fine as well.

4/5 wrote:

harmless wrote:This one's getting better. I really wasn't sure but it's rescued itself back from the brink, I think.

Dude, it seems like you like the song and want to like the song, but are held back by realizing that it's poppier than it needs to be and a belief that objectively it doesn't do anything particularly groundbreaking. Just enjoy the song. If you like it, you like it. That's fine. And if you don't like it, well, that's fine as well.

This type of thinking is what destroys 1300 page threads.

4/5 wrote:

harmless wrote:This one's getting better. I really wasn't sure but it's rescued itself back from the brink, I think.

Dude, it seems like you like the song and want to like the song, but are held back by realizing that it's poppier than it needs to be and a belief that objectively it doesn't do anything particularly groundbreaking. Just enjoy the song. If you like it, you like it. That's fine. And if you don't like it, well, that's fine as well.

Just riding the wave.

We need a studio live version of the song. Pronto.

evenslow wrote:

harmless wrote:

theplatypus wrote:The interesting thing about this song is

"Interesting" is relative. There's lots to like about it.

The interesting part is the synthesizer thing that powers the whole thing instead of guitars. Thing.

Yep. That. There are like cut-and-pasted organ/synth notes going on, with random stabs of guitar distortion, reminiscent of, but more random than, the delay on You Are. They compliment the lazy funk groove in the drums and bass. That groove is somewhat lost in the choruses, but for once I actually like that Matt goes to the ride cymbal, keeping to the ghost-notes on the snare etc. I also like the fuzzy guitars being lower in the mix. It changes the song considerably but I think it works as the only example in the catalogue. It's a pop song nodding to the stoner rock of Riot Act, but with a jarringly bright chorus. Since we already have Riot Act, that's OK. There's enough there that I like, to make the slightly flat chorus matter less. I like that they tried this experiment even if it doesn't all work.

STONE GOSSARD: There’s a percussion thing going on in there. I can’t remember what it’s called but it’s this little electronic percussion creator that’s run through a whole bunch of effects and it’s just sort of a little syncopated ear candy that Brendan helped create as the bed of that track.

evenslow wrote:

4/5 wrote:

harmless wrote:This one's getting better. I really wasn't sure but it's rescued itself back from the brink, I think.

Dude, it seems like you like the song and want to like the song, but are held back by realizing that it's poppier than it needs to be and a belief that objectively it doesn't do anything particularly groundbreaking. Just enjoy the song. If you like it, you like it. That's fine. And if you don't like it, well, that's fine as well.

This type of thinking is what destroys 1300 page threads.

But 4/5, it is everything that you've just described which has been making me wonder whether I liked it. I don't mind admitting to liking something everyone else hates. See: "Sirens." My only issue with Infallible is that I wish I knew how to produce songs, and that they'd hired me to do this one.

harmless wrote:

evenslow wrote:

4/5 wrote:

harmless wrote:This one's getting better. I really wasn't sure but it's rescued itself back from the brink, I think.

Dude, it seems like you like the song and want to like the song, but are held back by realizing that it's poppier than it needs to be and a belief that objectively it doesn't do anything particularly groundbreaking. Just enjoy the song. If you like it, you like it. That's fine. And if you don't like it, well, that's fine as well.

This type of thinking is what destroys 1300 page threads.

But 4/5, it is everything that you've just described which has been making me wonder whether I liked it. I don't mind admitting to liking something everyone else hates. See: "Sirens." My only issue with Infallible is that I wish I knew how to produce songs, and that they'd hired me to do this one.

Ok, I get that. It just seems like for for the last week or so I've been watching you waffle on your opinion of the song, and I interpreted it as being the result of the conflict I described.

EJ wrote:STONE GOSSARD: There’s a percussion thing going on in there. I can’t remember what it’s called but it’s this little electronic percussion creator that’s run through a whole bunch of effects and it’s just sort of a little syncopated ear candy that Brendan helped create as the bed of that track.

That'll be what's creating that choppy "You Are" cut-and-paste effect there. Cool. It reminds me a little of Peter Gabriel's approach to rock music.

I forgot to mention percussion. This song has lots of cool percussion layering that, if produced more naturally, would be very reminiscent of what was done on "Who You Are". So the fact that it goes into Pendulum, which also experiments with a lot of percussion, is really nice.

Why do I keep saying Robert Palmer when I mean Peter Gabriel??

4/5 wrote:

harmless wrote:

evenslow wrote:

4/5 wrote:

harmless wrote:This one's getting better. I really wasn't sure but it's rescued itself back from the brink, I think.

Dude, it seems like you like the song and want to like the song, but are held back by realizing that it's poppier than it needs to be and a belief that objectively it doesn't do anything particularly groundbreaking. Just enjoy the song. If you like it, you like it. That's fine. And if you don't like it, well, that's fine as well.

This type of thinking is what destroys 1300 page threads.

But 4/5, it is everything that you've just described which has been making me wonder whether I liked it. I don't mind admitting to liking something everyone else hates. See: "Sirens." My only issue with Infallible is that I wish I knew how to produce songs, and that they'd hired me to do this one.

Ok, I get that. It just seems like for for the last week or so I've been watching you waffle on your opinion of the song, and I interpreted it as being the result of the conflict I described.

Nothing wrong with that. Pearl Jam very rarely leads me to instantaneous opinions, especially more recently.

stip wrote:it sounds familiar without conjuring up any specific memories, almost like a genre baseline kind of song.

In either case I think infallible is much better.

Okay, listen. I goddamn LOVE Infallible. I have a feeling I'll be one of this boards biggest champions of the song. But what you're saying here... just... just shut up. No, no Stip!

SHUT. UP.

durdencommatyler wrote:

stip wrote:it sounds familiar without conjuring up any specific memories, almost like a genre baseline kind of song.

In either case I think infallible is much better.

Okay, listen. I goddamn LOVE Infallible. I have a feeling I'll be one of this boards biggest champions of the song. But what you're saying here... just... just shut up. No, no Stip!

SHUT. UP.

I feel as if stip has really skipped the light fandango lately.

harmless wrote:

durdencommatyler wrote:

stip wrote:it sounds familiar without conjuring up any specific memories, almost like a genre baseline kind of song.

In either case I think infallible is much better.

Okay, listen. I goddamn LOVE Infallible. I have a feeling I'll be one of this boards biggest champions of the song. But what you're saying here... just... just shut up. No, no Stip!

SHUT. UP.

I feel as if stip has really skipped the light fandango lately.

Stip isn't welcome anywhere near the light fandango.

i fuckin love Infallible
i didn't use to like it, but I love it now

Lounge Lizard wrote:i fuckin love Infallible
i didn't use to like it, but I love it now

listening to it now and Loving it as well

durdencommatyler wrote:

stip wrote:it sounds familiar without conjuring up any specific memories, almost like a genre baseline kind of song.

In either case I think infallible is much better.

Okay, listen. I goddamn LOVE Infallible. I have a feeling I'll be one of this boards biggest champions of the song. But what you're saying here... just... just shut up. No, no Stip!

SHUT. UP.

I keep listening to this song to see what i'm missing. I think this is getting bonus points for being old and first. I mean, it's a nice enough song, but I can't imagine myself ever really caring about this outside of a time capsule kinda way

how this ended up number 57 on a top songs of all time list is beyond me.

Really excited to hear this song tomorrow in Brooklyn. I'll be belting out that chorus at the top of my lungs!

And also, may I suggest that the bridge in this song is one of the more tasteful choices on the album?

stip wrote:

durdencommatyler wrote:

stip wrote:it sounds familiar without conjuring up any specific memories, almost like a genre baseline kind of song.

In either case I think infallible is much better.

Okay, listen. I goddamn LOVE Infallible. I have a feeling I'll be one of this boards biggest champions of the song. But what you're saying here... just... just shut up. No, no Stip!

SHUT. UP.

I keep listening to this song to see what i'm missing. I think this is getting bonus points for being old and first. I mean, it's a nice enough song, but I can't imagine myself ever really caring about this outside of a time capsule kinda way

how this ended up number 57 on a top songs of all time list is beyond me.

I just listened to it again. And would you believe it, it has an awful fadeout! Infallible *was* inspired by this song!