Red Mosquito

given2trade wrote:

McParadigm wrote:

verb_to_trust wrote:The timing of the article seems like it was intended to derail his big plans for the year.

are you kidding me

yah i lol'd at that. ryan's 3 albums will be 3 piles of poop.

I didn't say I think the albums will be great but it releasing this piece 6 weeks before an album release seems tactical.

Let’s ignore the absurdly conspiratorial conjecture for a moment and just pause to ask: why in the fuck would it matter if it was?

Honestly - I'd say good on the victims if they did sit on this till it would have the biggest effect on him and his career

McParadigm wrote:Let’s ignore the absurdly conspiratorial conjecture for a moment and just pause to ask: why in the fuck would it matter if it was?

Because it would sting for him all the more? I don't really find it that absurd.

I find it more absurd that he thought people wanted three full Ryan Adams albums in one year

bodysnatcher wrote:I find it more absurd that he thought people wanted three full Ryan Adams albums in one year

I was interested. The majority of his output has been good to great.

verb_to_trust wrote:

bodysnatcher wrote:I find it more absurd that he thought people wanted three full Ryan Adams albums in one year

I was interested. The majority of his output has been good to great.

Full discretion: i made that post with the only knowledge of Ryan Adams I have is that “to be sad is to be young is to be high” song

bodysnatcher wrote:

verb_to_trust wrote:

bodysnatcher wrote:I find it more absurd that he thought people wanted three full Ryan Adams albums in one year

I was interested. The majority of his output has been good to great.

Full discretion: i made that post with the only knowledge of Ryan Adams I have is that “to be sad is to be young is to be high” song

great song

I was definitely interested. But after this whole debacle, I don’t think I’ll be listening to any RA for the foreseeable future.

Blaine Ryan wrote:I was definitely interested. But after this whole debacle, I don’t think I’ll be listening to any RA for the foreseeable future.

not to tempt you but

Goddamnit Lenny

If someone asked me if I wanted to hear Let It Ride I don't think I would ever say no. Even if I was in the same room with Mandy Moore.

Man I've been spinning Cold Roses for 2 days now. I heard some RA playlist in a cafe this morning and I wasn't aware of any of this till now.

Fuck I'm deflated. But what a major douche and cunt he has been.

I have had trouble with various bands/artists before with their reputation and their catalogue. I still don't know exactly where I fall on this. I still listen to Led Zeppelin, have spun the recent Brand New. It's all very confusing. The only thing I know for sure is that those girls should not have to deal with that kind of assholery. And for that there should be some kind of consequence.

I am not surprised. Humans are very flawed. It is very clear from his music that he is a troubled person. That doesn’t excuse his behavior and I feel sorry for everyone he has caused pain. I never idolized him as a person. He is not a role model and his public behavior over the years has made that quite clear. This doesn’t change whether I listen to his music or not. Many works of art are products of intense human pain and suffering. I think you need to disconnect the product from the producer. If you can’t get beyond disconnecting the two and the product no longer brings you joy then that’s a different story.

invention wrote:I am not surprised. Humans are very flawed. It is very clear from his music that he is a troubled person. That doesn’t excuse his behavior and I feel sorry for everyone he has caused pain. I never idolized him as a person. He is not a role model and his public behavior over the years has made that quite clear. This doesn’t change whether I listen to his music or not. Many works of art are products of intense human pain and suffering. I think you need to disconnect the product from the producer. If you can’t get beyond disconnecting the two and the product no longer brings you joy then that’s a different story.

Im having trouble with him having flirtatious texts with a 14 year old. In no way is Ryan Adams a pedophile but that does cross a line.

We can merge this thread with the Bill Cosby thread.

The underage girl thing repulses me, but I also think that continuing to support a known abuser (especially one of Adams' severity) is problematic at best.

Side note: I had no idea that Phoebe Bridgers' "Motion Sickness" was about Ryan. Unfortunate inspiration, but it's a great song.

I used to read a Ryan Adams message board, http://www.tobeyoung.org/

They had tons of stories about how fucked up Ryan was, many many years ago. But yah none of them were about sexting with an underage girl.

I would never abuse Phoebe Bridgers