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elliseamos wrote:I'm starting to wonder if the League genuinely wanted this to be a shit-show. I mean, look at how blatant this is (spoiler'd for sizing):
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I'm seriously starting to come around to the thinking of a full-on conspiracy against the Pats... admittedly, prior to yesterday, I laughed at the idea, but this seems like more than a PR battle... it seems like complete character assassination; and not just from a League surrogate (ESPN), but the League's own website.
They just won the Super Bowl, there's no conspiracy against the pats, it's just that all parties in this are rich, detached egotistical shitheads trying to cover their asses.

All this over Tom Brady liking his footballs to be softer and the Pats organizations history of obfuscation.

What's the end of this? Nothing, Brady goes on with his life, at worst you get to audition the next QB and still go on to win a lot this year.
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Electromatic wrote:
elliseamos wrote:I'm starting to wonder if the League genuinely wanted this to be a shit-show. I mean, look at how blatant this is (spoiler'd for sizing):
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I'm seriously starting to come around to the thinking of a full-on conspiracy against the Pats... admittedly, prior to yesterday, I laughed at the idea, but this seems like more than a PR battle... it seems like complete character assassination; and not just from a League surrogate (ESPN), but the League's own website.
They just won the Super Bowl, there's no conspiracy against the pats, it's just that all parties in this are rich, detached egotistical shitheads trying to cover their asses.

All this over Tom Brady liking his footballs to be softer and the Pats organizations history of obfuscation.

What's the end of this? Nothing, Brady goes on with his life, at worst you get to audition the next QB and still go on to win a lot this year.

Kinda agree. A weaker defense (in the post-season) scares me more than missing TB for 1-4 games (in the regular season). In other missing Brady for some portion of the early season probably won't have a massive ripple effect.
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Electromatic wrote:
elliseamos wrote:I'm starting to wonder if the League genuinely wanted this to be a shit-show. I mean, look at how blatant this is (spoiler'd for sizing):
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I'm seriously starting to come around to the thinking of a full-on conspiracy against the Pats... admittedly, prior to yesterday, I laughed at the idea, but this seems like more than a PR battle... it seems like complete character assassination; and not just from a League surrogate (ESPN), but the League's own website.
They just won the Super Bowl, there's no conspiracy against the pats, it's just that all parties in this are rich, detached egotistical shitheads trying to cover their asses.

All this over Tom Brady liking his footballs to be softer and the Pats organizations history of obfuscation.

What's the end of this? Nothing, Brady goes on with his life, at worst you get to audition the next QB and still go on to win a lot this year.
but that's just it, the winning is what has theset people acting so stupidly. It's not a conspiracy, I know, but it seems like a pretty impartial investigation.
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elliseamos wrote:I'm starting to wonder if the League genuinely wanted this to be a shit-show. I mean, look at how blatant this is (spoiler'd for sizing):
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I'm seriously starting to come around to the thinking of a full-on conspiracy against the Pats... admittedly, prior to yesterday, I laughed at the idea, but this seems like more than a PR battle... it seems like complete character assassination; and not just from a League surrogate (ESPN), but the League's own website.
Which makes Kraft's spineless capitulation more infuriating.
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numbers wrote:
elliseamos wrote:I'm starting to wonder if the League genuinely wanted this to be a shit-show. I mean, look at how blatant this is (spoiler'd for sizing):
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I'm seriously starting to come around to the thinking of a full-on conspiracy against the Pats... admittedly, prior to yesterday, I laughed at the idea, but this seems like more than a PR battle... it seems like complete character assassination; and not just from a League surrogate (ESPN), but the League's own website.
Which makes Kraft's spineless capitulation more infuriating.
he was clearly lied to, which we can confirm with all the public testimony and evidence.
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elliseamos wrote:
numbers wrote:
elliseamos wrote:I'm starting to wonder if the League genuinely wanted this to be a shit-show. I mean, look at how blatant this is (spoiler'd for sizing):
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I'm seriously starting to come around to the thinking of a full-on conspiracy against the Pats... admittedly, prior to yesterday, I laughed at the idea, but this seems like more than a PR battle... it seems like complete character assassination; and not just from a League surrogate (ESPN), but the League's own website.
Which makes Kraft's spineless capitulation more infuriating.
he was clearly lied to, which we can confirm with all the public testimony and evidence.
I don't see why he had any reason to believe anything Goodell said to him.

Not to rehash this part of it, but for me, Kraft sold Brady and the fans out to cover his ass with his fellow billionaires.
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numbers wrote:
elliseamos wrote:
numbers wrote:
elliseamos wrote:I'm starting to wonder if the League genuinely wanted this to be a shit-show. I mean, look at how blatant this is (spoiler'd for sizing):
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I'm seriously starting to come around to the thinking of a full-on conspiracy against the Pats... admittedly, prior to yesterday, I laughed at the idea, but this seems like more than a PR battle... it seems like complete character assassination; and not just from a League surrogate (ESPN), but the League's own website.
Which makes Kraft's spineless capitulation more infuriating.
he was clearly lied to, which we can confirm with all the public testimony and evidence.
I don't see why he had any reason to believe anything Goodell said to him.

Not to rehash this part of it, but for me, Kraft sold Brady and the fans out to cover his ass with his fellow billionaires.
I'm not him, but I think he was thinking his actions could protect brady from further damage/questioning.
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elliseamos wrote:
numbers wrote:
elliseamos wrote:
numbers wrote:
elliseamos wrote:I'm starting to wonder if the League genuinely wanted this to be a shit-show. I mean, look at how blatant this is (spoiler'd for sizing):
Spoiler: show
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I'm seriously starting to come around to the thinking of a full-on conspiracy against the Pats... admittedly, prior to yesterday, I laughed at the idea, but this seems like more than a PR battle... it seems like complete character assassination; and not just from a League surrogate (ESPN), but the League's own website.
Which makes Kraft's spineless capitulation more infuriating.
he was clearly lied to, which we can confirm with all the public testimony and evidence.
I don't see why he had any reason to believe anything Goodell said to him.

Not to rehash this part of it, but for me, Kraft sold Brady and the fans out to cover his ass with his fellow billionaires.
I'm not him, but I think he was thinking his actions could protect brady from further damage/questioning.
Well, he thought wrong. The way the last week or so has shaken out though, I think Brady serves no time.

I wouldn't want to be anyone on the Pats' schedule this year.
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numbers wrote:
elliseamos wrote:
numbers wrote:
elliseamos wrote:
numbers wrote:
elliseamos wrote:I'm starting to wonder if the League genuinely wanted this to be a shit-show. I mean, look at how blatant this is (spoiler'd for sizing):
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I'm seriously starting to come around to the thinking of a full-on conspiracy against the Pats... admittedly, prior to yesterday, I laughed at the idea, but this seems like more than a PR battle... it seems like complete character assassination; and not just from a League surrogate (ESPN), but the League's own website.
Which makes Kraft's spineless capitulation more infuriating.
he was clearly lied to, which we can confirm with all the public testimony and evidence.
I don't see why he had any reason to believe anything Goodell said to him.

Not to rehash this part of it, but for me, Kraft sold Brady and the fans out to cover his ass with his fellow billionaires.
I'm not him, but I think he was thinking his actions could protect brady from further damage/questioning.
Well, he thought wrong. The way the last week or so has shaken out though, I think Brady serves no time.

I wouldn't want to be anyone on the Pats' schedule this year.
I was looking at the schedules of afc east teams, and I feel like Miami will enter their first meeting with a lot of hype (and the history of playing tough against the Pats) and then the Pats will mop the floor with them.

And now that I've jinxed them completely, the dolphins will have another wildcat game and I'll look for "foot in the mouth" GIFs yet again.
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I just feel like if you look back at the FU Tour in 2007, they've got to be twice as pissed this year. I know they don't have near the team they did that year, but still.
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elliseamos wrote:
numbers wrote:I wouldn't want to be anyone on the Pats' schedule this year.
I was looking at the schedules of afc east teams, and I feel like Miami will enter their first meeting with a lot of hype (and the history of playing tough against the Pats) and then the Pats will mop the floor with them.

And now that I've jinxed them completely, the dolphins will have another wildcat game and I'll look for "foot in the mouth" GIFs yet again.
I actually looked at the Dolphins' schedule and my first thought was that they have a legit chance at starting 6-0...and then have a NE curbstomping awaiting them after that.
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Green Habit wrote:
elliseamos wrote:
numbers wrote:I wouldn't want to be anyone on the Pats' schedule this year.
I was looking at the schedules of afc east teams, and I feel like Miami will enter their first meeting with a lot of hype (and the history of playing tough against the Pats) and then the Pats will mop the floor with them.

And now that I've jinxed them completely, the dolphins will have another wildcat game and I'll look for "foot in the mouth" GIFs yet again.
I actually looked at the Dolphins' schedule and my first thought was that they have a legit chance at starting 6-0...and then have a NE curbstomping awaiting them after that.
Great minds, GH, great minds.
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elliseamos wrote:
Green Habit wrote:
elliseamos wrote:
numbers wrote:I wouldn't want to be anyone on the Pats' schedule this year.
I was looking at the schedules of afc east teams, and I feel like Miami will enter their first meeting with a lot of hype (and the history of playing tough against the Pats) and then the Pats will mop the floor with them.

And now that I've jinxed them completely, the dolphins will have another wildcat game and I'll look for "foot in the mouth" GIFs yet again.
I actually looked at the Dolphins' schedule and my first thought was that they have a legit chance at starting 6-0...and then have a NE curbstomping awaiting them after that.
Great minds, GH, great minds.
Yeah, I guess when I posted that, I didn't exactly equate "lot of hype" with "6-0". Should have just meekly concurred. :oops:
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Green Habit wrote:
elliseamos wrote:
Green Habit wrote:
elliseamos wrote:
numbers wrote:I wouldn't want to be anyone on the Pats' schedule this year.
I was looking at the schedules of afc east teams, and I feel like Miami will enter their first meeting with a lot of hype (and the history of playing tough against the Pats) and then the Pats will mop the floor with them.

And now that I've jinxed them completely, the dolphins will have another wildcat game and I'll look for "foot in the mouth" GIFs yet again.
I actually looked at the Dolphins' schedule and my first thought was that they have a legit chance at starting 6-0...and then have a NE curbstomping awaiting them after that.
Great minds, GH, great minds.
Yeah, I guess when I posted that, I didn't exactly equate "lot of hype" with "6-0". Should have just meekly concurred. :oops:
Meek does not suit you. Do you, GH.
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I'm liking this Federal judge's attitude towards this case. He told both sides again today to try to settle before court tomorrow.

If they don't settle (I doubt they will), I hope he lays into both sides for wasting the court's time.
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elliseamos wrote:
Electromatic wrote:
elliseamos wrote:I'm starting to wonder if the League genuinely wanted this to be a shit-show. I mean, look at how blatant this is (spoiler'd for sizing):
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I'm seriously starting to come around to the thinking of a full-on conspiracy against the Pats... admittedly, prior to yesterday, I laughed at the idea, but this seems like more than a PR battle... it seems like complete character assassination; and not just from a League surrogate (ESPN), but the League's own website.
They just won the Super Bowl, there's no conspiracy against the pats, it's just that all parties in this are rich, detached egotistical shitheads trying to cover their asses.

All this over Tom Brady liking his footballs to be softer and the Pats organizations history of obfuscation.

What's the end of this? Nothing, Brady goes on with his life, at worst you get to audition the next QB and still go on to win a lot this year.
but that's just it, the winning is what has theset people acting so stupidly. It's not a conspiracy, I know, but it seems like a pretty impartial investigation.
Agree totally, calling any part of that investigation "independent" is pretty hilarious.

I kind of hope this just gets settled soon at 2 games, and we can all go about our lives.
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Apparently the judge asked the NFL attorneys for direct evidence that Brady knew of the deflation and they said they couldn't produce a "smoking gun".
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