Red Mosquito

This 10C dog and pony show will all be moot if its a good album.

stip wrote:coach, on a scale of 1-10 how excited are you for the next big countdown reveal in less than 3 days!

Not all that excited, but I do remain optimistic about a good album. I really do. I aired some harsh words at the band's management today, but I made sure to keep the band out of it.

I really love this band and really want to love this new album.

Boing wrote:Anyone else think the slow moody song on the video might be this albums master/slave.

I'm thinking its "Alford Pleas"

Walker Bait wrote:We'll see though, I'm probably wrong.

new default RM post for everyone here.

Walker Bait wrote:

durdencommatyler wrote:

Boing wrote:Anyone else think the slow moody song on the video might be this albums master/slave.

Could be. Might be fun to do some things to tie the tenth album back to Ten. But I won't be surprised if it's just promo music, either.

I personally think it's part of sirens.... it was said to be layered and that mike's guitar had effects on it and that it was more "ballady". We'll see though, I'm probably wrong.

You could be totally right.

evenslow wrote:

Walker Bait wrote:We'll see though, I'm probably wrong.

new default RM post for everyone here.

Fanboi strat was just disappointed he had to be caged for a little while longer

Tour dates. Better than a kick in the head.
Piss poor marketing fail.

Strat wrote:Fanboi strat was just disappointed he had to be caged for a little while longer

Thursday... if you need help remembering that just think the THIRD day.

Monday - one day.
Tuesday - two day.
Wednesday - when, huh, what day?

THURSDAY! - The third day!

that second bit was clearly 'billy billy microp_nis'

Also the faster song, has only one guitar playing(Stone) and fades out just as mike is going to kick in. Perhaps this is the reason some people say it resembles STBC if mike is just playing the same riff.

durdencommatyler wrote:

Strat wrote:

durdencommatyler wrote:

Thejambi wrote:

bodysnatcher wrote:the only reason this is a letdown is bc everyone built it up so much and started assuming what the news was. it eventually got into "double album, new single, streaming, free download for members, tour announcement" territory. it's 10c's fault for the poor execution... maybe not an entire week's worth of a countdown. maybe a 2 or 3 days for something like this. but it's also equally our fault as well.

Is it? As many have said before, we have gotten this same type of information via much simpler and direct means time and time again. Id say we cotributed to the letdown but i cant say it was just as much our own fault. it was totally reasonable to think they would blow us out of the water here. This week countdown to huge news was a bust.

But, as everyone is so found of mentioning, it's been four years. They were just trying to build some excitement in the community. And it's not so absurd to think that community would care about a tour. Especially since the band is so highly regarded (right or wrong) as one of the best touring bands around.

But they have been - mostly - touring for the past 4 years. handful of shows each year. and the PJ20 tour wasn't so long ago. this is nothing new or exciting. What an abortion this has become!

Bands tour. Pearl Jam is a touring band. Would I have loved an album announcement? Of course. But this isn't it. Fine. I just don't see what all the vitriol is about. I haven't seen them on stage in years. I'm pretty fucking pumped that they're coming to Brooklyn.

You're smarter than this Joey. It's like others have said. Pearl Jam tours all the time, sure, they're still special to a lot of people, but when they tout an announcement like this in a hyped up way they've never done before, it's not unfair to expect more than just a tour announcement. On top of that, the Internet is global. They set this countdown knowing they have legions of fans worldwide and then they had an underwhelming announcement that only matters to people who live near the water in the United States.

In the end, it doesn't really matter. It doesn't change the release schedule for the new album (whatever that is). Fans will still get the new music at the same time as they were always going to get it, and they'll still be touring the same places they were going to tour regardless of how they announced it. But in the end, this is just another lame thing this band did. They seem to do lame things pretty regularly at this point.

Strat wrote:

stip wrote:

Strat wrote:The disappointment is also magnified by the less than inspiring "North America Tour"

yeah, I suspect the real issue here is that people are bummed they no longer do massive tours.

Not even that. They could do far more interesting tours in 20-25 shows than their "par-for-the course" east coast/west coast stops.

Yes- This is what is most frustrating for me. You nailed it

HardTI wrote:

harmless wrote:Mind you, if Ed's delivery and the melody is interesting, it could lift the song.

I expect this to be their standard Save You, Got Some, etc type rocker. I'll probably dig it when I'm in the mood for a generic rock track.

That's all PJ these days, no?

Boing wrote:Also the faster song, has only one guitar playing(Stone) and fades out just as mike is going to kick in. Perhaps this is the reason some people say it resembles STBC if mike is just playing the same riff.

Boi-oi-oi-oi-oing!!

HAS ANYONE RELAYED ALL OF THIS INFO TO DAPPER GENT??

cutuphalfdead wrote:

durdencommatyler wrote:

Strat wrote:

durdencommatyler wrote:

Thejambi wrote:

bodysnatcher wrote:the only reason this is a letdown is bc everyone built it up so much and started assuming what the news was. it eventually got into "double album, new single, streaming, free download for members, tour announcement" territory. it's 10c's fault for the poor execution... maybe not an entire week's worth of a countdown. maybe a 2 or 3 days for something like this. but it's also equally our fault as well.

Is it? As many have said before, we have gotten this same type of information via much simpler and direct means time and time again. Id say we cotributed to the letdown but i cant say it was just as much our own fault. it was totally reasonable to think they would blow us out of the water here. This week countdown to huge news was a bust.

But, as everyone is so found of mentioning, it's been four years. They were just trying to build some excitement in the community. And it's not so absurd to think that community would care about a tour. Especially since the band is so highly regarded (right or wrong) as one of the best touring bands around.

But they have been - mostly - touring for the past 4 years. handful of shows each year. and the PJ20 tour wasn't so long ago. this is nothing new or exciting. What an abortion this has become!

Bands tour. Pearl Jam is a touring band. Would I have loved an album announcement? Of course. But this isn't it. Fine. I just don't see what all the vitriol is about. I haven't seen them on stage in years. I'm pretty fucking pumped that they're coming to Brooklyn.

You're smarter than this Joey. It's like others have said. Pearl Jam tours all the time, sure, they're still special to a lot of people, but when they tout an announcement like this in a hyped up way they've never done before, it's not unfair to expect more than just a tour announcement. On top of that, the Internet is global. They set this countdown knowing they have legions of fans worldwide and then they had an underwhelming announcement that only matters to people who live near the water in the United States.

In the end, it doesn't really matter. It doesn't change the release schedule for the new album (whatever that is). Fans will still get the new music at the same time as they were always going to get it, and they'll still be touring the same places they were going to tour regardless of how they announced it. But in the end, this is just another lame thing this band did. They seem to do lame things pretty regularly at this point.

I just don't see the issue. Could it have been better executed? Yes, I've already said as much. But this certainly isn't worthy of the vitriol that's being thrown around.

Like I posted a few days ago, every time the 10 Club tries to do some big build up thing, it's a let down. Always. This is actually MORE exciting than I was expecting. I'm not saying it's unfair to expect more, but I also believe in managing expectations. If your expectations weren't met, that sucks. But that doesn't make the band worse. It doesn't make anyone evil.

10 Club was building excitement in a big way for a band who has been low key for far too long. This is the largest tour they've announced since... what like 2006 or something? They're excited. I'm excited. Those of us that are, have just as much right to be as those who are disappointed.

durdencommatyler wrote:

Strat wrote:Fanboi strat was just disappointed he had to be caged for a little while longer

Thursday... if you need help remembering that just think the THIRD day.

Monday - one day.
Tuesday - two day.
Wednesday - when, huh, what day?

THURSDAY! - The third day!

Friday - Olé!

You can't be excited about anything ever. Shut the fuck up.

Weird.
Over the weekend I was told by 2 different local VIPs that the Times Union Center in Albany (former Knickerbocker and Pepsi Arena) would be getting a show.
They each said they can 100% can confirm discussions were had with the band when I just called to say Albany was not included in the announcement, but do not know what happened about finalizing it.
There are open dates after Buffalo and Worcester if it magically gets added.