Red Mosquito

dimejinky99 wrote:Pro tip. When debating a professional and consistent Star Wars hater(but who claims to be a fan) on twitter , don’t use the term ‘you people’ until you’ve made sure he isn’t Jewish.
Made this mistake last night and he picked that ball up and he Fucking ran with it

@SkitchP wrote:

dimejinky99 wrote:Pro tip. When debating a professional and consistent Star Wars hater(but who claims to be a fan) on twitter , don’t use the term ‘you people’ until you’ve made sure he isn’t Jewish.
Made this mistake last night and he picked that ball up and he Fucking ran with it

To be honest, the pro tip here is never use the phrase "you people"

Strat wrote:It's going to come so fast (thats what she said). Thanksgiving, the disaster artist, then star wars. Just like that.

Then we'll argue about how awful great it is and start worrying about episode 9 for the next two years.

dimejinky99 wrote:

Strat wrote:It's going to come so fast (thats what she said). Thanksgiving, the disaster artist, then star wars. Just like that.

Then we'll argue about how awful great it is and start worrying about episode 9 for the next two years.

It’s gonna be amazing. The only argument I can foresee is if it’s better than Empire or not.


*i will be back shortly to totally contradict this post.

dimejinky99 wrote:I fuckin love Mark Hamill.

durdencommatyler wrote:

dimejinky99 wrote:

theplatypus wrote:Maz asks Han "who is she?" (or something to that effect), and the movie cuts away before we see Han's answer. Shortly afterwards, Maz gives Rey a big speech about her destiny or whatever. It's possible that Han doesn't know, and all he tells Maz off-screen is "I dunno, some stray I picked up", but if that's the case, the filmmakers made a conscious choice to muddle that fact

Great point Jorge. We know of maz that she’s a collector and giver of things. How the lightsaber came to be in mazs possession we don’t know. Luke left it with her maybe saying someone will come and she’ll know the right time. The cutaway suggests Han does know more and he would tell maz given he’s known her for years and years.

It’s not for nothing that maz gives Rey that speech and knows to direct her towards Luke.
And again it ties into Leia sending her to find Luke rather than to go herself.

But doesn't it make just as much sense that Maz has the lightsaber (we don't know how) and is waiting for someone? Since Maz is Force sensitive she can sense how strong the Force is in Rey? And so she asks Han what he knows about (who is she?)? Han doesn't know but Maz has a feeling (again, she's the only other person in the scene who is Force sensitive)? And then, as you said, Leia let's Rey carry the saber to Luke, not because she knows who Rey is necessarily, but because she is also Force sensitive and can feel Rey's power/connection to the Force. Also, Rey and/or Maz (remember we know they shot a scene where Maz hands Leia the lightsaber; it's in the first teaser trailer and was reshot/cut from the film) could have told Leia that the saber called to her (meaning Rey). Leia's no dummy. She could have easily sent Rey to Luke without ever knowing who Rey is/was/whatever.

I think a lot of the cutting for affect or misdirection people are keying into could also have to do with how they changed the story and the reshoots they did. I do think Abrams likes to play mystery. So, maybe that was intentional. But it never read that way to me, mostly because of how Han interacted with Rey prior to getting to Maz's castle.

Whatever. It doesn't matter at all. This is a pretty stupid conversation. You guys got one thing out of it and I got another. Since it's so many against one, I'm gonna go ahead and assume you guys picked up on something I missed and that you're totally right.

Strat wrote:look at all those NERDS

dimejinky99 wrote:

durdencommatyler wrote:

dimejinky99 wrote:

theplatypus wrote:Maz asks Han "who is she?" (or something to that effect), and the movie cuts away before we see Han's answer. Shortly afterwards, Maz gives Rey a big speech about her destiny or whatever. It's possible that Han doesn't know, and all he tells Maz off-screen is "I dunno, some stray I picked up", but if that's the case, the filmmakers made a conscious choice to muddle that fact

Great point Jorge. We know of maz that she’s a collector and giver of things. How the lightsaber came to be in mazs possession we don’t know. Luke left it with her maybe saying someone will come and she’ll know the right time. The cutaway suggests Han does know more and he would tell maz given he’s known her for years and years.

It’s not for nothing that maz gives Rey that speech and knows to direct her towards Luke.
And again it ties into Leia sending her to find Luke rather than to go herself.

But doesn't it make just as much sense that Maz has the lightsaber (we don't know how) and is waiting for someone? Since Maz is Force sensitive she can sense how strong the Force is in Rey? And so she asks Han what he knows about (who is she?)? Han doesn't know but Maz has a feeling (again, she's the only other person in the scene who is Force sensitive)? And then, as you said, Leia let's Rey carry the saber to Luke, not because she knows who Rey is necessarily, but because she is also Force sensitive and can feel Rey's power/connection to the Force. Also, Rey and/or Maz (remember we know they shot a scene where Maz hands Leia the lightsaber; it's in the first teaser trailer and was reshot/cut from the film) could have told Leia that the saber called to her (meaning Rey). Leia's no dummy. She could have easily sent Rey to Luke without ever knowing who Rey is/was/whatever.

I think a lot of the cutting for affect or misdirection people are keying into could also have to do with how they changed the story and the reshoots they did. I do think Abrams likes to play mystery. So, maybe that was intentional. But it never read that way to me, mostly because of how Han interacted with Rey prior to getting to Maz's castle.

Whatever. It doesn't matter at all. This is a pretty stupid conversation. You guys got one thing out of it and I got another. Since it's so many against one, I'm gonna go ahead and assume you guys picked up on something I missed and that you're totally right.

Rey goes from having the vision& Maz dropping some knowledge on her and running away not wanting to have anything to do with it all, to going to find Luke lightsaber in bag quite quickly. Safe to assume it’s Leia fills her in and tells the whole story to her in that time. What does she tell her to convince her to go? Why does she even pick her to go? I think she probably knows she’s Luke’s daughter and it just isn’t her place to tell her that. So sends her off to find him to allow Luke have that conversation with her.


Perhaps he’s all cantankerous and not trusting/training her cos he’s paranoid she’s been sent by Snoke to capture him?

stip wrote:I've surprisingly been able to avoid the TV spots for this one (my overall excitement level is definitely less than TFA, despite the fact that I am convinced it will be an even better movie. Now that I have star wars in my life again I am not desperate for it and can just appreciate it). So if there are any essential spots or what have you that aren't spoilerly please highlight them

Spoiler: show

with Luke walking into the cockpit of the Falcon???

dimejinky99 wrote:

stip wrote:I've surprisingly been able to avoid the TV spots for this one (my overall excitement level is definitely less than TFA, despite the fact that I am convinced it will be an even better movie. Now that I have star wars in my life again I am not desperate for it and can just appreciate it). So if there are any essential spots or what have you that aren't spoilerly please highlight them

Stip. are you telling me you didn’t see the one

Spoiler: show

with Luke walking into the cockpit of the Falcon???

Cos if you haven’t you’re crazy. It’ll make you fuckin weep happy tears and ramp up your excitement to 11.

Spoiler: show