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Re: The 45th POTUS - Donald J. Trump

Posted: Fri August 18, 2017 2:28 am
by wease
Strat wrote:Tony Scwhartz is convinced Trump will resign in classic Trump fashion by fall...

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/ton ... f724d64fd6
There is no way in high holy fuck he resigns m

Re: The 45th POTUS - Donald J. Trump

Posted: Fri August 18, 2017 3:07 am
by Strat
wease wrote:
Strat wrote:Tony Scwhartz is convinced Trump will resign in classic Trump fashion by fall...

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/ton ... f724d64fd6
There is no way in high holy fuck he resigns m
I dont know...

He was speaking on CNN and thinking the way he resigns is blame it all on everybody else, saying he did all he can to save america, but corrupt washington couldnt get it done. He could resign at his own accord and control his narrative with his base. That's all he cares about.

He doesnt want to be president.

Re: The 45th POTUS - Donald J. Trump

Posted: Fri August 18, 2017 3:29 am
by wease
Strat wrote:
wease wrote:
Strat wrote:Tony Scwhartz is convinced Trump will resign in classic Trump fashion by fall...

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/ton ... f724d64fd6
There is no way in high holy fuck he resigns m
I dont know...

He was speaking on CNN and thinking the way he resigns is blame it all on everybody else, saying he did all he can to save america, but corrupt washington couldnt get it done. He could resign at his own accord and control his narrative with his base. That's all he cares about.

He doesnt want to be president.
There is no way in high holy fuck he resigns. It would be a loss for him and as we all know Donald Trump never loses.

Re: The 45th POTUS - Donald J. Trump

Posted: Fri August 18, 2017 3:41 am
by wease
It's quite telling that Trump can call a person driving a vehicle into people in Barcelona a terrorist attack, but will not call a person driving into people in Charlottesville an act of terror.

Re: The 45th POTUS - Donald J. Trump

Posted: Fri August 18, 2017 3:52 am
by Jorge
wease wrote: There is no way in high holy fuck he resigns. It would be a loss for him and as we all know Donald Trump never loses.
It's possible if he can frame it (to himself and his followers) as an act of heroism; "I'm too encumbered by the deep-seated corruption in Washington and its structures and I have decided that I can be more effective in my fight for (???) as a civilian"

The only thing I think would keep him from going down that road is how it'd look in the history books. I'm convinced he thinks about this often.

Re: The 45th POTUS - Donald J. Trump

Posted: Fri August 18, 2017 3:53 am
by Norah
no one has any fucking idea what's going to be happen

Re: The 45th POTUS - Donald J. Trump

Posted: Fri August 18, 2017 3:55 am
by Simple Torture
cutuphalfdead wrote:no one has any fucking idea what's going to be happen
I've seen it in the flames.

Re: The 45th POTUS - Donald J. Trump

Posted: Fri August 18, 2017 4:03 am
by McParadigm
Simple Torture wrote:
cutuphalfdead wrote:no one has any fucking idea what's going to be happen
I've seen it in the flames.
A storm is threatening my very life today. If I don't get some shelter...

Re: The 45th POTUS - Donald J. Trump

Posted: Fri August 18, 2017 12:12 pm
by Bi_3
theplatypus wrote:
wease wrote: There is no way in high holy fuck he resigns. It would be a loss for him and as we all know Donald Trump never loses.
It's possible if he can frame it (to himself and his followers) as an act of heroism; "I'm too encumbered by the deep-seated corruption in Washington and its structures and I have decided that I can be more effective in my fight for (???) as a civilian"

The only thing I think would keep him from going down that road is how it'd look in the history books. I'm convinced he thinks about this often.

I'm on the platty train here. Trump's somehow managed to commit two of the unforgivable sins in US politics in one foul swoop. The only way he gets out of this with his cult intact is some kind of martyrdom.

Re: The 45th POTUS - Donald J. Trump

Posted: Fri August 18, 2017 12:28 pm
by wease
McParadigm wrote:
Simple Torture wrote:
cutuphalfdead wrote:no one has any fucking idea what's going to be happen
I've seen it in the flames.
A storm is threatening my very life today. If I don't get some shelter...
Don't fade away, McP. We need you too much.

Re: The 45th POTUS - Donald J. Trump

Posted: Fri August 18, 2017 12:59 pm
by McParadigm
I'm trying to unpack this, and it's just making my brain hurt

Re: The 45th POTUS - Donald J. Trump

Posted: Fri August 18, 2017 1:20 pm
by McParadigm
https://facebook.com/mittromney/posts/10154652303536121
Mitt Romney wrote:I will dispense for now from discussion of the moral character of the president's Charlottesville statements....

Re: The 45th POTUS - Donald J. Trump

Posted: Fri August 18, 2017 1:36 pm
by Strat
McParadigm wrote:https://facebook.com/mittromney/posts/10154652303536121
Mitt Romney wrote:I will dispense for now from discussion of the moral character of the president's Charlottesville statements....
I fucking hate that people are still asking the president to come around on this. He's not going to do it. It's not who he is. Donald Trump isn't going to turn around again and take his words back and even if he did it will mean absolutely nothing. This guy isn't going to change and calling on the president to rebut his comments and the neo nazi's is wasted breath. It leads me to believe that some people still dont understand who Donald Trump is. It leads me to believe that they don't actually know how serious this is.

Re: The 45th POTUS - Donald J. Trump

Posted: Fri August 18, 2017 1:59 pm
by malice
Strat wrote:
McParadigm wrote:https://facebook.com/mittromney/posts/10154652303536121
Mitt Romney wrote:I will dispense for now from discussion of the moral character of the president's Charlottesville statements....
I fucking hate that people are still asking the president to come around on this. He's not going to do it. It's not who he is. Donald Trump isn't going to turn around again and take his words back and even if he did it will mean absolutely nothing. This guy isn't going to change and calling on the president to rebut his comments and the neo nazi's is wasted breath. It leads me to believe that some people still dont understand who Donald Trump is. It leads me to believe that they don't actually know how serious this is.
the full statement from that link just reads as a cover his own ass set of comments. I think most of the Republican bigshots are doing this, aren't they? No one wants to be branded as racists so they put out statements about trumps remarks so far. I doubt they expect trump to change his mind.

Also, would it make a difference if trump did at this point? I don't think so. Backpedaling just comes off as phony, even from well respected politicians, let alone trump

Re: The 45th POTUS - Donald J. Trump

Posted: Fri August 18, 2017 2:08 pm
by Strat
malice wrote:
Strat wrote:
McParadigm wrote:https://facebook.com/mittromney/posts/10154652303536121
Mitt Romney wrote:I will dispense for now from discussion of the moral character of the president's Charlottesville statements....
I fucking hate that people are still asking the president to come around on this. He's not going to do it. It's not who he is. Donald Trump isn't going to turn around again and take his words back and even if he did it will mean absolutely nothing. This guy isn't going to change and calling on the president to rebut his comments and the neo nazi's is wasted breath. It leads me to believe that some people still dont understand who Donald Trump is. It leads me to believe that they don't actually know how serious this is.
the full statement from that link just reads as a cover his own ass set of comments. I think most of the Republican bigshots are doing this, aren't they? No one wants to be branded as racists so they put out statements about trumps remarks so far. I doubt they expect trump to change his mind.

Also, would it make a difference if trump did at this point? I don't think so. Backpedaling just comes off as phony, even from well respected politicians, let alone trump
I know Mitt doesn't care for trump so his full text read as exactly you stated. It felt cowardly. Lets just call Trump out, denounce white supremacy, and state "Donald Trump is unfit to be president" and move on.

Re: The 45th POTUS - Donald J. Trump

Posted: Fri August 18, 2017 2:40 pm
by McParadigm
None of what you're saying is wrong, but it doesn't make moments like this less relevant to understanding current events. Republicans are increasingly unwillling to play along, and the president in turn is trying to primary two members of his own party.

Tax reform is the last tenuous bond they share, and even the Republicans increasingly seem to understand that it will be a train wreck. What happens when there's no longer a carrot at the end of the stick?

Re: The 45th POTUS - Donald J. Trump

Posted: Fri August 18, 2017 2:52 pm
by McParadigm
On an aprocyphal note: my wife's sister and her husband, who are hardcore catholic military family Republicans...just posted a picture of a burning nazi flag, with a statement that they've now blocked all the "Nazi defenders" in their friend list.

So that was something to see.

Re: The 45th POTUS - Donald J. Trump

Posted: Fri August 18, 2017 2:55 pm
by Simple Torture
My first thought after reading this was: the president has a Committee on the Arts & Humanities???

Re: The 45th POTUS - Donald J. Trump

Posted: Fri August 18, 2017 3:15 pm
by bune
Better question: Kal Penn still works for them?

Re: The 45th POTUS - Donald J. Trump

Posted: Fri August 18, 2017 3:23 pm
by Simple Torture
I wouldn't be surprised if that was one of those committees that passes from president to president.