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Re: HBO: Game of Thrones (Song of Ice and Fire)

Posted: Mon August 14, 2017 9:20 pm
by Anders
tragabigzanda wrote:Is there any major house that would shift sides according to their loyalty to House Baratheon? How might Gendry's return be a device to shift larger alliances?
There are plenty of houses sworn to Storm's End, but the show doesn't seem to dwell too much on such things. Like how Dorne, who has a large army by Westerosi standards, basically disappeared earlier this season. Many died under Stannis of course, but we haven't seen Storm's End in seasons now.

Re: HBO: Game of Thrones (Song of Ice and Fire)

Posted: Mon August 14, 2017 10:03 pm
by Mecca
There's power vacuums in the Reach, Dorne, and the Stormlands. They are essentially under Lannister control, but with the Tyrell/Tarly, Martell, and Baratheon lines all gone, there's no one to control the lower lords. I think because they decided to rob us of episodes these last 2 seasons, none of it will be addressed. Cersei doesn't really have a lot of friends or people she trusts that could rule over these places that would remain loyal

Re: HBO: Game of Thrones (Song of Ice and Fire)

Posted: Mon August 14, 2017 10:08 pm
by Monkey_Driven
I thought Stannis left a ghost crew at Storm's End? I may be confusing it with the books by the way.

Re: HBO: Game of Thrones (Song of Ice and Fire)

Posted: Mon August 14, 2017 10:10 pm
by Chris_H_2
speaking cersei, my guess is
Spoiler: show
she's either not actually pregnant, or is pregnant with euron's kid

Re: HBO: Game of Thrones (Song of Ice and Fire)

Posted: Mon August 14, 2017 10:23 pm
by Orpheus
Yeah I don't understand why people are confused about Dorne. Their ruler was taken prisoner by the Lannisters and her heirs are dead and dying. You don't just go "welp, let's keep fighting how we were" when that happens.

Re: HBO: Game of Thrones (Song of Ice and Fire)

Posted: Mon August 14, 2017 10:27 pm
by Mecca
Orpheus wrote:Yeah I don't understand why people are confused about Dorne. Their ruler was taken prisoner by the Lannisters and her heirs are dead and dying. You don't just go "welp, let's keep fighting how we were" when that happens.
Dorne is basically Iraq now, bra

Re: HBO: Game of Thrones (Song of Ice and Fire)

Posted: Mon August 14, 2017 10:54 pm
by AndySlash
Chris_H_2 wrote:speaking cersei, my guess is
Spoiler: show
she's either not actually pregnant, or is pregnant with euron's kid
or
Spoiler: show
qyburn unnaturally put a baby in her. that's my guess given that he was a part of the scenes that jamie and cersei had together.

Re: HBO: Game of Thrones (Song of Ice and Fire)

Posted: Mon August 14, 2017 11:00 pm
by tragabigzanda
Steve Albini wrote:Whenever there's active promotion on the part of somebody else, whenever I see somebody all dolled up for a fancy photograph and someone's handing out flyers or whenever there's active promotion for something like that, as an imposition on my day, I hate all those people and I want them to fail. I have a visceral reaction to advertising and promotion. There's just something about salesmanship that grates on me on a very base level and I react very negatively towards it. I want those people to suffer and I want their enterprises to fail.

Re: HBO: Game of Thrones (Song of Ice and Fire)

Posted: Tue August 15, 2017 12:39 am
by BurtReynolds
AndySlash wrote:
Chris_H_2 wrote:speaking cersei, my guess is
Spoiler: show
she's either not actually pregnant, or is pregnant with euron's kid
or
Spoiler: show
qyburn unnaturally put a baby in her. that's my guess given that he was a part of the scenes that jamie and cersei had together.
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Re: HBO: Game of Thrones (Song of Ice and Fire)

Posted: Tue August 15, 2017 2:06 am
by EJ
Simple Torture wrote:Will one of Jon's guys sacrifice himself to be turned into a wight? That'd probably be the easiest way to get one back.
Heh. Maybe The Hound will do it so he can reunite with his brother. (with sexy results)

Re: HBO: Game of Thrones (Song of Ice and Fire)

Posted: Tue August 15, 2017 2:14 am
by stip
I liked the episode. It clearly felt transitional, but they are in the process of wrapping up the story so that'll happen. We've been with these people for 7 years and 80 hours, as Joey said. The motivations for their actions are all clear.

I have no idea why Gendry is back

Re: HBO: Game of Thrones (Song of Ice and Fire)

Posted: Tue August 15, 2017 2:28 am
by Mecca
stip wrote:I liked the episode. It clearly felt transitional, but they are in the process of wrapping up the story so that'll happen. We've been with these people for 7 years and 80 hours, as Joey said. The motivations for their actions are all clear.

I have no idea why Gendry is back
fan service

Re: HBO: Game of Thrones (Song of Ice and Fire)

Posted: Tue August 15, 2017 6:03 am
by Anders
Orpheus wrote:Yeah I don't understand why people are confused about Dorne. Their ruler was taken prisoner by the Lannisters and her heirs are dead and dying. You don't just go "welp, let's keep fighting how we were" when that happens.
Dorne is as powerful as the North. It's difficult to see in the show, but we know there is a large ruling family there. It would make sense for them to still be a factor in the war. Even if it was Dany trying to convince them to keep backing her.

Re: HBO: Game of Thrones (Song of Ice and Fire)

Posted: Tue August 15, 2017 7:28 am
by Anders
Mecca wrote:
stip wrote:I liked the episode. It clearly felt transitional, but they are in the process of wrapping up the story so that'll happen. We've been with these people for 7 years and 80 hours, as Joey said. The motivations for their actions are all clear.

I have no idea why Gendry is back
fan service
Possibly. Like Ruddo said, if he dies, then he is out of the way. Died like a hero.

Re: HBO: Game of Thrones (Song of Ice and Fire)

Posted: Tue August 15, 2017 8:32 am
by ABNorman
The two seemingly plausible theories that I've seen are that
Spoiler: show
Jorah volunteers/sacrifices himself to become a wight, allowing for a weighty emotional moment with Dany which really seals her support for Jon's cause
or
Spoiler: show
The hound becomes a wight, and we somehow get Zombie Cleganebowl
The Brotherhood guys seem minor enough to be complete red shirts on this one.

Re: HBO: Game of Thrones (Song of Ice and Fire)

Posted: Tue August 15, 2017 8:55 am
by ABNorman
I really liked that episode - somebody further up said we've had 6 seasons of development, I'm enjoying the more cinematic feel of this season - it's the third act climax.

That said, a lot of it is whooshing by.

Re: HBO: Game of Thrones (Song of Ice and Fire)

Posted: Tue August 15, 2017 11:39 am
by Anders
ABNorman wrote:The two seemingly plausible theories that I've seen are that
Spoiler: show
Jorah volunteers/sacrifices himself to become a wight, allowing for a weighty emotional moment with Dany which really seals her support for Jon's cause
or
Spoiler: show
The hound becomes a wight, and we somehow get Zombie Cleganebowl
The Brotherhood guys seem minor enough to be complete red shirts on this one.
Both of those sound great. :mrgreen:

Re: HBO: Game of Thrones (Song of Ice and Fire)

Posted: Tue August 15, 2017 11:40 am
by doone
Anders wrote:
ABNorman wrote:The two seemingly plausible theories that I've seen are that
Spoiler: show
Jorah volunteers/sacrifices himself to become a wight, allowing for a weighty emotional moment with Dany which really seals her support for Jon's cause
or
Spoiler: show
The hound becomes a wight, and we somehow get Zombie Cleganebowl
The Brotherhood guys seem minor enough to be complete red shirts on this one.
Both of those sound great. :mrgreen:
:lol:
I like both theories too.

Re: HBO: Game of Thrones (Song of Ice and Fire)

Posted: Tue August 15, 2017 12:15 pm
by Kaius
Superteam

Jon Targaryen confirmed

Jaime/Bronn/Tyrion love triangle

Davos Davos Davos

WARHAMMER

It was almost breakneck pace but like others have suggested, we don't need much more character study; most of these ppl are who they are and now we see how it plays out. Fun episode.

Re: HBO: Game of Thrones (Song of Ice and Fire)

Posted: Tue August 15, 2017 12:28 pm
by epilogue
doone wrote:
Anders wrote:
ABNorman wrote:The two seemingly plausible theories that I've seen are that
Spoiler: show
Jorah volunteers/sacrifices himself to become a wight, allowing for a weighty emotional moment with Dany which really seals her support for Jon's cause
or
Spoiler: show
The hound becomes a wight, and we somehow get Zombie Cleganebowl
The Brotherhood guys seem minor enough to be complete red shirts on this one.
Both of those sound great. :mrgreen:
:lol:
I like both theories too.
Same

Though the first is way cooler, I think. Both are fun.