Red Mosquito

LoathedVermin72 wrote:Like I said, I’m not an audiophile, but surely this can’t be a truly lossless process that would result in a completely identical master?

tragabigzanda wrote:

LoathedVermin72 wrote:

tragabigzanda wrote:

LoathedVermin72 wrote:I also think this is a bit myopic:
[quote="tragabigzanda”]I'm not sure the masters are that big a deal; I imagine they've been digitally archived already, and as long as that was done really well, and people can forget their emotional attachment to physical media for the sake of this issue, I'm not sure there's much of anything really "lost" with those 2-track master tape.

This feels sorta like saying we don’t need an original camera negative as long as it’s been transferred to a digital master. But that’s digital technology right now - we have no idea what kind of tech will be available once the future. Imagine if all we had a 2000-era telecine DVD master when a negative was lost. We’ve progressed so far since then.

I’m not an audiophile so I can’t say this is an exact apples-to-apples comparison, but losing the original source material like this definitely seems bad to me.

But if it's already backed up with high fidelity digital audio, they can just put it on to new tape.

LoathedVermin72 wrote:

Strat wrote:hip hop sucks since 1994

Oldheads are the rockists of hip-hop

Strat wrote:

LoathedVermin72 wrote:

Strat wrote:hip hop sucks since 1994

Oldheads are the rockists of hip-hop

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LoathedVermin72 wrote: I dunno, man. This sounds just like the kind of stuff people incorrectly say about digital film transfer technology all the time. I’m very skeptical.

Birds in Hell wrote:

LoathedVermin72 wrote: I dunno, man. This sounds just like the kind of stuff people incorrectly say about digital film transfer technology all the time. I’m very skeptical.

You're exactly on the money here LV.

I imagine it's very similar to discussions which occur re: film transfers.

tragabigzanda wrote:Much of what people admire about older recordings are things like tape compression and tape hiss. The former is already present on any archived recordings, and the latter can now be removed with scary efficiency.

tragabigzanda wrote:Spenno's post about the quality and quantity of those archives is more concerning though. Take everything I've said and apply it to "properly archived master recordings" only.

tragabigzanda wrote:

tragabigzanda wrote:Top 10 maybe?
Hello Morning
Close Captioned
The Kill
Place/Position
Do You Like Me?
Latest Disgrace
Recap Modotti
Nightshop
Break
Life & Limb

I'd maybe bump Life & Limb for Epic Problem

Birds in Hell wrote:Nobody knows how much of the material had been digitally transferred, it's suggested that only a fraction may have been. In any case, it seems as though there wasn't any kind of comprehensive catalogue for what was on the tapes held. Even for those which were transferred, when and how did it occur? A digital transfer made in 2002 (for example) is likely inferior to one made more recently and there's now no possibility that any of that material can be archived or accessed in the future in greater fidelity.

This is a heartbreaking, staggering loss of 20th century culture. I can't think of anything comparable.

A high-profile Los Angeles law firm representing multiple recording artists plans to file legal action as early as next week in response to news that a massive number of original master recordings were destroyed in a 2008 fire at Universal Studios Hollywood.

“We have many very concerned clients,” attorney Howard King, partner in King, Holmes, Paterno & Soriano, said Thursday. “This has a potentially huge impact on their future, coupled with the rather disturbing fact that no one ever told them that their intellectual property may have been destroyed. There is a significant amount of discussion going on, and there will be formal action taken.”

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