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McParadigm wrote:Warns of election being stolen three times during a rally today. What on earth is going to happen when he loses?
Honestly? Here are the potential outcomes I can think of, in order from "most likely" to "least likely" (not mutually exclusive, though).

1. In the big scheme of things, not too much. There are people who believe the 2000 election was stolen, there are people who believe the 2004 election was stolen, 2008, 2012, etc...Usually it's just the fringe of the left or the right, and I imagine this time most people will continue to look at those people as the crazies.

2. Trump announces that "something big" is coming on January 1st, and he uses the base he's grown and the platform he has to launch the Trump News Network, which he and Roger Ailes and the people from Breitbart cobble together as a streaming service to start and maybe someday turn into an online/TV conglomerate that caters to people who think Fox news isn't "truth-y" enough. It'll probably fail in a few years and become a nice tax write-off for Trump.

3. There's enough of a groundswell of support for the "It was rigged!" crowd (even if Trump loses by double digits...in fact, maybe especially if he loses by double digits) that the lawmakers who stuck with him continue to perpetuate the lie into a Hillary Clinton presidency. Perhaps even some of those who abandoned Trump begin to toe the line of, "Trump was an awful candidate...but he was right about Clinton!" People begin to try and delegitimize the Clinton presidency from Day 1, holding up appointments and shuffling their feet just like they did with Obama. Someone on the Supreme Court dies/retires in mid-2018 and the GOP decides that it's too close to the 2020 election to refill the seat, and we fucking start all over again.

P.S., I've been saying for months that Trump's "concession" speech is going to be epic (if he loses--let's not jinx ourselves). I cannot even imagine how it's going to go, but it's going to better than drugs.
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McParadigm wrote:Warns of election being stolen three times during a rally today. What on earth is going to happen when he loses?
Honestly? Here are the potential outcomes I can think of, in order from "most likely" to "least likely" (not mutually exclusive, though).

1. In the big scheme of things, not too much. There are people who believe the 2000 election was stolen, there are people who believe the 2004 election was stolen, 2008, 2012, etc...Usually it's just the fringe of the left or the right, and I imagine this time most people will continue to look at those people as the crazies.

2. Trump announces that "something big" is coming on January 1st, and he uses the base he's grown and the platform he has to launch the Trump News Network, which he and Roger Ailes and the people from Breitbart cobble together as a streaming service to start and maybe someday turn into an online/TV conglomerate that caters to people who think Fox news isn't "truth-y" enough. It'll probably fail in a few years and become a nice tax write-off for Trump.

3. There's enough of a groundswell of support for the "It was rigged!" crowd (even if Trump loses by double digits...in fact, maybe especially if he loses by double digits) that the lawmakers who stuck with him continue to perpetuate the lie into a Hillary Clinton presidency. Perhaps even some of those who abandoned Trump begin to toe the line of, "Trump was an awful candidate...but he was right about Clinton!" People begin to try and delegitimize the Clinton presidency from Day 1, holding up appointments and shuffling their feet just like they did with Obama. Someone on the Supreme Court dies/retires in mid-2018 and the GOP decides that it's too close to the 2020 election to refill the seat, and we fucking start all over again.

P.S., I've been saying for months that Trump's "concession" speech is going to be epic (if he loses--let's not jinx ourselves). I cannot even imagine how it's going to go, but it's going to better than drugs.
He wont concede. He'll start some law-suit and fight it for the next 4 years.
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Birds in Hell wrote:
dimejinky99 wrote:Media seemingly everywhere else than the states latched on to his threat to have her jailed once he's elected. Haven't seen that mentioned from a US outlet at all.
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Strat wrote:
Simple Torture wrote:
McParadigm wrote:Warns of election being stolen three times during a rally today. What on earth is going to happen when he loses?
Honestly? Here are the potential outcomes I can think of, in order from "most likely" to "least likely" (not mutually exclusive, though).

1. In the big scheme of things, not too much. There are people who believe the 2000 election was stolen, there are people who believe the 2004 election was stolen, 2008, 2012, etc...Usually it's just the fringe of the left or the right, and I imagine this time most people will continue to look at those people as the crazies.

2. Trump announces that "something big" is coming on January 1st, and he uses the base he's grown and the platform he has to launch the Trump News Network, which he and Roger Ailes and the people from Breitbart cobble together as a streaming service to start and maybe someday turn into an online/TV conglomerate that caters to people who think Fox news isn't "truth-y" enough. It'll probably fail in a few years and become a nice tax write-off for Trump.

3. There's enough of a groundswell of support for the "It was rigged!" crowd (even if Trump loses by double digits...in fact, maybe especially if he loses by double digits) that the lawmakers who stuck with him continue to perpetuate the lie into a Hillary Clinton presidency. Perhaps even some of those who abandoned Trump begin to toe the line of, "Trump was an awful candidate...but he was right about Clinton!" People begin to try and delegitimize the Clinton presidency from Day 1, holding up appointments and shuffling their feet just like they did with Obama. Someone on the Supreme Court dies/retires in mid-2018 and the GOP decides that it's too close to the 2020 election to refill the seat, and we fucking start all over again.

P.S., I've been saying for months that Trump's "concession" speech is going to be epic (if he loses--let's not jinx ourselves). I cannot even imagine how it's going to go, but it's going to better than drugs.
He wont concede. He'll start some law-suit and fight it for the next 4 years.
Was thinking the same. He's incapable of being gracious. It'll be his shitstorm rant of all time.
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dimejinky99 wrote:
Birds in Hell wrote:
dimejinky99 wrote:Media seemingly everywhere else than the states latched on to his threat to have her jailed once he's elected. Haven't seen that mentioned from a US outlet at all.
Hmm.

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It was the first thing most of the commentators talked about after the debate last night. I watched as Trump surrogates and campaign officials were grilled about it on CNN, CNBC, etc. It was all over Twitter. It was in your house. It was everywhere.
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Simple Torture wrote:
dimejinky99 wrote:
Birds in Hell wrote:
dimejinky99 wrote:Media seemingly everywhere else than the states latched on to his threat to have her jailed once he's elected. Haven't seen that mentioned from a US outlet at all.
Hmm.

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It was the first thing most of the commentators talked about after the debate last night. I watched as Trump surrogates and campaign officials were grilled about it on CNN, CNBC, etc. It was all over Twitter. It was in your house. It was everywhere.
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This is just the best
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Strat wrote:lol. classic b
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McParadigm wrote:Reince still standing firm with Trump.
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Fucking love Kluwe
Dear Donald Trump,

Last Friday, audio leaked of you making incredibly demeaning comments about women and bragging about sexual assault. When asked to justify your statements, you claimed that this was "locker room talk," and it's just how guys speak about women.

You're wrong, and only the type of wrong an over-tanned ham hock like yourself can accomplish, plummeting past the morass of gross incivility into the abyss of depraved sociopathy.

How do I know this? Simple. I was in an NFL locker room for eight years, the very definition of the macho, alpha male environment you're so feebly trying to evoke to protect yourself, and not once did anyone approach your breathtaking depths of arrogant imbecility. Oh, sure, we had some dumb guys, and some guys I wouldn't want to hang out with on any sort of regular basis, but we never had anyone say anything as foul and demeaning as you did on that tape, and, hell, I played a couple years with a guy who later turned out to be a serial rapist. Even he never talked like that.

Now, Donald, I'm sure you're wondering just what it is we talk about in a professional locker room, if we don't spend all our time regarding 50 percent of the population as mobile fuck receptacles eagerly awaiting our tiny-handed grasp on their love lapels. I shall educate you!

We talk about our families. We talk about our significant others, our children, and our parents. We talk about our fears that if a Hitler wannabe who can't even string together a coherent statement on domestic policy becomes president, what that might mean for those of us who are married to a member of a minority community, or are a member of a minority community, or have children going to schools where hopefully nobody screams racial epithets at them or tells them to go back to [insert foreign country they couldn't identify on a map here].

We talk about travel. We talk about the cities we've seen, the stadiums we've played in, what vacations we might take in the offseason. We talk about what country might make a good safe haven if a Russian-backed presidential candidate whose foreign policy agenda can best be described as "gross negligence mixed with a spicy dash of treason" were to have control of our nation's nuclear arsenal, and whether his stubby little baby fingers are strong enough to push in the launch codes on sturdy military-grade hardware.

We talk about money. We talk about what other guys at our position are making, what our next contract might look like, and how much paying taxes each year sucks, since we're in the highest tax bracket and play in multiple states, requiring multiple filings. We talk about how all of us pay taxes, every year, and wonder what a presidential candidate might have to hide if he so stubbornly refuses to release his returns, what possible foreign debts might be lurking in that finance closet he so desperately holds shut with every ounce of his contemptible mental faculties.


Chris Kluwe of the Oakland Raiders punts against the Seattle Seahawks on August 29, 2013, in Seattle, Washington. Otto Greule Jr/Getty Images
We talk about women (and sex!). We talk about wives, sisters, mothers, daughters, fans, and groupies. Most guys respect women, some guys don't, but never have I heard anyone use your particularly disgusting brand of sadism that refers to women as objects and not people. Even the most debauched club-hopping party animal talks about women more civilly than you. We don't let each other talk like that about women, because it lessens our humanity, and even though we're modern-day gladiators, we still hold ourselves accountable to the idea of basic human decency.

We talk about jokes. Clean jokes, dirty jokes, jokes that are in between. Hell, I made a joke about Penn State that got me in trouble years later, because someone thought I was attacking the victims instead of the institution that allowed such depravity to happen. You know what I did? I apologized. I said I was sorry. I didn't apologize with "if your feelings were hurt by it"; I didn't try to deflect it by attacking someone else, or their spouse; I didn't lie to an entire nation on live TV and say, "Nope, that never happened." I simply said, "I'm sorry, I made a mistake, I'm accountable, I'll do better next time."

See, that's another big thing we talk about in the locker room. Accountability. In a professional sports environment, all of us are accountable to each other. We're a team. If one of us messes up on the field, it affects everyone. Just like if a president makes a bad decision, it affects everyone. And do you know, Donald, the only way the team wins games? The only way we win is if, in the locker room, we're willing to accept that accountability, address our mistakes, and work as hard as we possibly can to make sure those mistakes don't happen again.

We don't double down on a shitty play simply because a small portion of the fan base got excited by it. We don't try to carve the team apart from the inside to appease a certain position group. We don't blame our mistakes on something someone else did, because if we do any of those things, we lose, something you've become intimately familiar with on a personal, financial, and political level, and I'm not having too many difficulties reviewing how that happened to you on the game film.

So let me conclude with some advice for you, Donald. The next time you want to claim that something is "locker room talk," take a moment to recognize the fact that were you in an actual locker room, you would be universally reviled as a cancerous, egotistical train wreck of a disgrace that no team could possibly find the time to employ and, honestly, would never even have on their draft board to begin with.

I've been in locker rooms, Donald, and you're the type of narcissistic, pants-soiling fecal eruption that just doesn't belong. Even football players are smart enough to know that.

Sincerely,

Chris Kluwe

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Anyone watching Designated Survivor?

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Kluwe was clearly never in a locker room with Gilbert Arenas
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dimejinky99 wrote:Anyone watching Designated Survivor?

Americas best hope at this stage.
I've been waiting for that show to take off but it hasn't really happened yet.
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Hillary up 11 to 14 points now.
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BurtReynolds wrote:Hillary up 11 to 14 points now.
Still only a two possession game
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Trump is a marvelously efficient acid bath, stripping away his supporters’ surfaces, exposing their skeletal essences. Consider Mike Pence, a favorite of what Republicans devoutly praise as America’s “faith community.” Some of its representatives, their crucifixes glittering in the television lights, are still earnestly explaining the urgency of giving to Trump, who agreed that his daughter is “a piece of ass,” the task of improving America’s coarsened culture.
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BurtReynolds wrote:Hillary up 11 to 14 points now.
That's just in one poll (NBC/WSJ, which leans Clinton and had a small sample size), but most analyses have pointed out that Clinton has gained 1-2 points even in the polls that had just one day post-pussy-grabber. If Trump was down 4% points last week, he had 5 weeks to make those up; conservatively, it looks like he's down 5-6 points now, and he has just 4 weeks to make them up.

Thursday-Friday seems like when we'll get more of the very good polls that are all post-pussy-grabber and mostly post-debate.
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