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Re: Star Wars: Andor (Disney+)

Posted: Sat November 26, 2022 1:36 am
by epilogue
AndySlash wrote:
epilogue wrote:
Greedo wrote:
Collider reported on Wednesday that Gilroy made the confirmation, telling the outlet he saw the introduction of K-2SO as “one of the responsibilities” of Andor Season 2. “Obviously, if we’re going to walk into Rogue, we have to deal with that,” the writer said.
Question is, will he break with canon when he does it or will it more or less be a straight adaptation?
i'm assuming from this comment his story is fleshed out somewhere else, so what is canon beyond knowing he's a reprogrammed imperial droid?
K-2SO was one of the KX-series security droids assigned to the Imperial stormtrooper detachment on the planet Wecacoe. K-2SO heard a noise near a decommissioned Imperial cruiser. There he encountered Rebel agent Cassian Andor and arrested him. K-2SO and Andor then fought each other until Kertas and Rismor found his kill switch. Cassian then attempted to wipe K-2SO's memory clean.[6]

However, only 29.73% of K-2SO's memory had been erased, and he then strangled Cassian. Kertas and Rismor were able to turn him off again. Cassian gave K-2 new orders to lead him, Kertas, and Rismor back to their ship. K-2 stated he would "take out" anyone who interfered with them. He escorted Cassian and the twins as his prisoners, but came under attack by several stormtroopers. He, the twins, and Cassian attacked the troopers.[6]

As the K-2SO's group got to their vehicle, stormtroopers surrounded it, and K-2 attempted to arrest Andor again. As Rismor drew the troops away, Kertas told Cassian to take K-2SO because he had the intel they needed. After Cassian's ship was destroyed, K-2 still had 8.3% of his memory and tried to decide to either terminate or arrest Cassian. Cassian removed the base layer of his programming and shut him down. K-2 turned on and took out the stormtroopers. K-2 and Andor then found a ship. Together, they made their escape.[6]

K-2SO and Andor were sent to the F'tzner system to undertake a raid on an Imperial freighter. Andor used gas to trick the Empire into thinking that smugglers stole the cargo, as smugglers were known to use gas to raid transports. When they got to the cargo room, they found three Wookiees named D'Koetaa, D'Lylaa, and Wyhyatt, and took them instead of the cargo. Andor then took them to the monastery moon of Charissia in the Bartahn sector. There, he left K-2SO to look after the three Wookiees while Andor undertook a raid.[7]

At some point K-2SO and Athex were sent to an Imperial base near Fortress Vader on Mustafar. There, they assisted a team of rebels posing as stormtroopers in recovering for the Rebel Alliance. After the rebels stole the Proto-saber, K-2SO picked up the rebels before Darth Vader could stop them from making their escape.[8]

At some point whilst stationed at the rebel base on Yavin 4, K-2SO had a run-in with R2-D2 and C-3PO, droids belonging to the pilot of Senator Bail Organa.[9] Later, Andor[10] and K-2SO accompanied Extraction Team Bravo, which in 0 BBY helped Jyn Erso escape from the Wobani Labor Camp. As Erso ran outside to escape, K-2SO seized Erso, threw her to the ground, and told her not to resist as she was being rescued.[2] Bravo Team's U-wing transport, Bravo One, encountered a minor technical setback and was unable to jump to hyperspace. The team took refuge in an asteroid field in Wobani's star system, and K-2SO sent a priority transmission to all available Rebel vessels. An X-wing starfighter squadron called Red Flight answered their call and saved them from incoming Imperial forces.[5]

Re: Star Wars: Andor (Disney+)

Posted: Sat November 26, 2022 2:04 am
by psychobain
Im a casual SW fan, should i watch this?
I really enjoyed Mandalorian

Re: Star Wars: Andor (Disney+)

Posted: Sat November 26, 2022 2:27 am
by AndySlash
epilogue wrote:
AndySlash wrote:
epilogue wrote:
Greedo wrote:
Collider reported on Wednesday that Gilroy made the confirmation, telling the outlet he saw the introduction of K-2SO as “one of the responsibilities” of Andor Season 2. “Obviously, if we’re going to walk into Rogue, we have to deal with that,” the writer said.
Question is, will he break with canon when he does it or will it more or less be a straight adaptation?
i'm assuming from this comment his story is fleshed out somewhere else, so what is canon beyond knowing he's a reprogrammed imperial droid?
K-2SO was one of the KX-series security droids assigned to the Imperial stormtrooper detachment on the planet Wecacoe. K-2SO heard a noise near a decommissioned Imperial cruiser. There he encountered Rebel agent Cassian Andor and arrested him. K-2SO and Andor then fought each other until Kertas and Rismor found his kill switch. Cassian then attempted to wipe K-2SO's memory clean.[6]

However, only 29.73% of K-2SO's memory had been erased, and he then strangled Cassian. Kertas and Rismor were able to turn him off again. Cassian gave K-2 new orders to lead him, Kertas, and Rismor back to their ship. K-2 stated he would "take out" anyone who interfered with them. He escorted Cassian and the twins as his prisoners, but came under attack by several stormtroopers. He, the twins, and Cassian attacked the troopers.[6]

As the K-2SO's group got to their vehicle, stormtroopers surrounded it, and K-2 attempted to arrest Andor again. As Rismor drew the troops away, Kertas told Cassian to take K-2SO because he had the intel they needed. After Cassian's ship was destroyed, K-2 still had 8.3% of his memory and tried to decide to either terminate or arrest Cassian. Cassian removed the base layer of his programming and shut him down. K-2 turned on and took out the stormtroopers. K-2 and Andor then found a ship. Together, they made their escape.[6]

K-2SO and Andor were sent to the F'tzner system to undertake a raid on an Imperial freighter. Andor used gas to trick the Empire into thinking that smugglers stole the cargo, as smugglers were known to use gas to raid transports. When they got to the cargo room, they found three Wookiees named D'Koetaa, D'Lylaa, and Wyhyatt, and took them instead of the cargo. Andor then took them to the monastery moon of Charissia in the Bartahn sector. There, he left K-2SO to look after the three Wookiees while Andor undertook a raid.[7]

At some point K-2SO and Athex were sent to an Imperial base near Fortress Vader on Mustafar. There, they assisted a team of rebels posing as stormtroopers in recovering for the Rebel Alliance. After the rebels stole the Proto-saber, K-2SO picked up the rebels before Darth Vader could stop them from making their escape.[8]

At some point whilst stationed at the rebel base on Yavin 4, K-2SO had a run-in with R2-D2 and C-3PO, droids belonging to the pilot of Senator Bail Organa.[9] Later, Andor[10] and K-2SO accompanied Extraction Team Bravo, which in 0 BBY helped Jyn Erso escape from the Wobani Labor Camp. As Erso ran outside to escape, K-2SO seized Erso, threw her to the ground, and told her not to resist as she was being rescued.[2] Bravo Team's U-wing transport, Bravo One, encountered a minor technical setback and was unable to jump to hyperspace. The team took refuge in an asteroid field in Wobani's star system, and K-2SO sent a priority transmission to all available Rebel vessels. An X-wing starfighter squadron called Red Flight answered their call and saved them from incoming Imperial forces.[5]
thanks. i guess i could have looked it up myself but i didn't realize there was that much.

29.73% is oddly specific.

Re: Star Wars: Andor (Disney+)

Posted: Sat November 26, 2022 3:10 am
by Got Some
psychobain wrote:Im a casual SW fan, should i watch this?
I really enjoyed Mandalorian

Yes.

It’s a quality ride

Re: Star Wars: Andor (Disney+)

Posted: Sat November 26, 2022 6:48 am
by Anders
psychobain wrote:Im a casual SW fan, should i watch this?
I really enjoyed Mandalorian
Yes

Re: Star Wars: Andor (Disney+)

Posted: Sun November 27, 2022 4:29 am
by B
Do you wish Star Wars had less Star Wars?

Re: Star Wars: Andor (Disney+)

Posted: Mon November 28, 2022 5:30 am
by dimejinky99

Re: Star Wars: Andor (Disney+)

Posted: Mon November 28, 2022 5:31 am
by dimejinky99
Would the story go have been diminished for using the volume? I don’t think so. But each to their own.

Re: Star Wars: Andor (Disney+)

Posted: Mon November 28, 2022 3:10 pm
by Ensign9
dimejinky99 wrote:Would the story go have been diminished for using the volume? I don’t think so. But each to their own.
I think most of Andor's success comes down to the writing, direction, and acting. But we have no shortage of evidence (Mando, Boba, Obi-Wan) that indicates, to me, the Volume does not look as good in comparison to real, live sets and locations and the overall quality of the show suffers as a result.

Re: Star Wars: Andor (Disney+)

Posted: Mon November 28, 2022 3:11 pm
by Monkey_Driven
Ensign9 wrote:
dimejinky99 wrote:Would the story go have been diminished for using the volume? I don’t think so. But each to their own.
I think most of Andor's success comes down to the writing, direction, and acting. But we have no shortage of evidence (Mando, Boba, Obi-Wan) that indicates, to me, the Volume does not look as good in comparison to real, live sets and locations and the overall quality of the show suffers as a result.

Re: Star Wars: Andor (Disney+)

Posted: Mon November 28, 2022 3:17 pm
by epilogue
Ensign9 wrote:
dimejinky99 wrote:Would the story go have been diminished for using the volume? I don’t think so. But each to their own.
I think most of Andor's success comes down to the writing, direction, and acting. But we have no shortage of evidence (Mando, Boba, Obi-Wan) that indicates, to me, the Volume does not look as good in comparison to real, live sets and locations and the overall quality of the show suffers as a result.
Exactly this. Well said.

Re: Star Wars: Andor (Disney+)

Posted: Mon November 28, 2022 9:13 pm
by B
Interesting tidbit from a friend of mine in VFX. He said they still used the Volume for this, but they took it out to sites and put up pieces of it, like a wall or a half dome.

He thinks it's so much better because they designed the sets and used Volume where it helped. Obi-Wan was designed to be in the Volume, so everything looked like it was in the Volume.

Re: Star Wars: Andor (Disney+)

Posted: Mon November 28, 2022 9:19 pm
by epilogue
B wrote:Interesting tidbit from a friend of mine in VFX. He said they still used the Volume for this, but they took it out to sites and put up pieces of it, like a wall or a half dome.

He thinks it's so much better because they designed the sets and used Volume where it helped. Obi-Wan was designed to be in the Volume, so everything looked like it was in the Volume.
I don't know who your friend is, but Tony Gilroy has disagrees:
In a perfect world, we’d be able to shoot location and shoot old school, and then we’d use the Volume when we want to use it. There are times when the Volume would be really good for us, but the technology doesn’t exist to do both. You have to make a choice at this point because of the workflow on the Volume. All your post-production has to be done beforehand. You have to shoot all of your plates. Everything has to be done. When you go in the Volume, everything’s done. You’re just adding the actors.

Our system is completely different. We shoot everything with the actors, and we build out from there if we need to build out. And those two systems, maybe there’s somebody who’s doing it, but economically, you can’t do [both]. So, automatically, we were just like, ‘We have to be a build show.’ It wasn’t a controversy, really. I saw it get turned into a controversy the other day, but it’s not like that at all. There are times where we’d love to use it. It does some great things.”

Re: Star Wars: Andor (Disney+)

Posted: Mon November 28, 2022 10:41 pm
by dimejinky99
Good point ensign. You’re right.

I didn’t notice the volume affecting the other series tbh.
When you’re mostly on the same sand planet there’s only one way to do that in a cost effective sense. And that’s the volume.
It was brilliant in mando. Worked perfectly. Everyting looked real to me. Thinking especially of the docks that time

Re: Star Wars: Andor (Disney+)

Posted: Mon November 28, 2022 10:42 pm
by dimejinky99

Re: Star Wars: Andor (Disney+)

Posted: Mon November 28, 2022 11:10 pm
by B
epilogue wrote:
B wrote:Interesting tidbit from a friend of mine in VFX. He said they still used the Volume for this, but they took it out to sites and put up pieces of it, like a wall or a half dome.

He thinks it's so much better because they designed the sets and used Volume where it helped. Obi-Wan was designed to be in the Volume, so everything looked like it was in the Volume.
I don't know who your friend is, but Tony Gilroy has disagrees:
In a perfect world, we’d be able to shoot location and shoot old school, and then we’d use the Volume when we want to use it. There are times when the Volume would be really good for us, but the technology doesn’t exist to do both. You have to make a choice at this point because of the workflow on the Volume. All your post-production has to be done beforehand. You have to shoot all of your plates. Everything has to be done. When you go in the Volume, everything’s done. You’re just adding the actors.

Our system is completely different. We shoot everything with the actors, and we build out from there if we need to build out. And those two systems, maybe there’s somebody who’s doing it, but economically, you can’t do [both]. So, automatically, we were just like, ‘We have to be a build show.’ It wasn’t a controversy, really. I saw it get turned into a controversy the other day, but it’s not like that at all. There are times where we’d love to use it. It does some great things.”
Well, he's an outside insider so maybe he got it wrong.

Re: Star Wars: Andor (Disney+)

Posted: Mon November 28, 2022 11:11 pm
by B
dimejinky99 wrote:Good point ensign. You’re right.

I didn’t notice the volume affecting the other series tbh.
When you’re mostly on the same sand planet there’s only one way to do that in a cost effective sense. And that’s the volume.
It was brilliant in mando. Worked perfectly. Everyting looked real to me. Thinking especially of the docks that time
Oh, I absolutely felt the volume in Obi-Wan. I liked Obi-Wan, but 80% of the sets were 75 feet across.

Re: Star Wars: Andor (Disney+)

Posted: Tue November 29, 2022 12:37 am
by dimejinky99
Was about to say that’s bigger than most the sets in the OT and it is.

But you can feel or sense the difference.

Wonder would have we noticed if they’d kept the volume a secret until after it all.

Re: Star Wars: Andor (Disney+)

Posted: Tue November 29, 2022 12:38 am
by Monkey_Driven
You can definitely tell the difference.

Re: Star Wars: Andor (Disney+)

Posted: Tue November 29, 2022 12:59 am
by B
dimejinky99 wrote:Was about to say that’s bigger than most the sets in the OT and it is.

But you can feel or sense the difference.

Wonder would have we noticed if they’d kept the volume a secret until after it all.
I'm not very smart or observant. I would never know if the Volume was a secret.