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Re: Superblood Wolfmoon
Posted: Tue February 18, 2020 2:32 pm
by tree_
Wow Matt's drumming has never been more boring. I don't understand why he chooses to be so stifled/stifling. No energy and generic/simple AF beat.
Ed just... sounds phony. That "energy" he's trying to bring when he goes "ehhhhHHHHHHHHHHH!!!!!!" just comes outta nowhere and doesn't flow anytime he tries to bring it. He needs to start FEELING a song.
I feel like this song is suffering the most from these two things. It sounds like Matt laid down the drum track while listening to a click track with no idea what the song was going to be, then Ed comes in and lays down his lame ass novice chords on top of it, then everyone else tries their best to dress it up. I don't blame them, it's really hard at that point.
Just terrible, terrible, lame lame stuff here.
Re: Superblood Wolfmoon
Posted: Tue February 18, 2020 2:32 pm
by Chris_H_2
stip wrote:DeeDee wrote:Seeing people putting SBWM over Leatherman is beyond me.
leatherman is on the short list of pj songs i actively dislike
and it’s a b-side for that reason. yet this is equally bad and was this album’s second single.
Re: Superblood Wolfmoon
Posted: Tue February 18, 2020 2:37 pm
by spike
theplatypus wrote:ghost wrote:so is the girl in the song a werewolf, or was she taken away by a werewolf?
Why did this make me laugh so hard
because literal interpretations can be hilarious
Re: Superblood Wolfmoon
Posted: Tue February 18, 2020 2:40 pm
by Ms Harmless
I honestly think it's weird that "bad / weird choice of single" is being considered as... anything important, in terms of predicting what's coming
PJ always did that, they can't choose singles and never could
Re: Superblood Wolfmoon
Posted: Tue February 18, 2020 2:43 pm
by liebzz
Do we need a rank every song in the Pearl Jam catalogue to adequately rate Leatherman? I can see the comparison to that song but this has a bit more going on. Whether you think it crowds the song or makes it more interesting might be the difference between liking and disliking it?
Re: Superblood Wolfmoon
Posted: Tue February 18, 2020 2:43 pm
by scrub12
jrut81 wrote:A good song would hook you from the beginning. This definitely doesn’t.
I wouldn’t agree. Some of my favorite songs took me a while to come around on.
Re: Superblood Wolfmoon
Posted: Tue February 18, 2020 2:44 pm
by tree_
I just listened to Leatherman.. hadn't heard it in a long time...
It's also kinda lame... I don't like these kinds of songs, generally, but it's way better than this song because it at least feels cohesive, planned, felt out. On Leatherman, Ed's voice isn't eternally grating and the drumming doesn't sound like a click track. I guess Ed used to actually listen to himself back then.
Re: Superblood Wolfmoon
Posted: Tue February 18, 2020 2:45 pm
by Ms Harmless
tree_ wrote:Wow Matt's drumming has never been more boring. I don't understand why he chooses to be so stifled/stifling. No energy and generic/simple AF beat.
Re: Superblood Wolfmoon
Posted: Tue February 18, 2020 2:47 pm
by Strat
Jack irons would have been great on this song. Thinking black red yellow.
I love the - what feels like - the unstructured arrangement of the song. It is manic yet I find it a bit compelling.
No way Ed ever gets this one right though
Re: Superblood Wolfmoon
Posted: Tue February 18, 2020 2:48 pm
by Strat
Also I’m super turned on that McP approves.
Re: Superblood Wolfmoon
Posted: Tue February 18, 2020 2:48 pm
by EJ
Really hope this is the standout worst song on the new album.
Re: Superblood Wolfmoon
Posted: Tue February 18, 2020 2:49 pm
by Ms Harmless
Strat wrote:Jack irons would have been great on this song. Thinking black red yellow.
I love the - what feels like - the unstructured arrangement of the song. It is manic yet I find it a bit compelling.
No way Ed ever gets this one right though
Re: Superblood Wolfmoon
Posted: Tue February 18, 2020 2:52 pm
by McParadigm
Strat wrote:Also I’m super turned on that McP approves.
I’m amused/confused by the amount of disapproval it’s pulling, to be honest.
I will say that this song does sort of eradicate any hope for a themed album though.
Re: Superblood Wolfmoon
Posted: Tue February 18, 2020 2:52 pm
by jrut81
tree_ wrote:Wow Matt's drumming has never been more boring. I don't understand why he chooses to be so stifled/stifling. No energy and generic/simple AF beat.
Ed just... sounds phony. That "energy" he's trying to bring when he goes "ehhhhHHHHHHHHHHH!!!!!!" just comes outta nowhere and doesn't flow anytime he tries to bring it. He needs to start FEELING a song.
I feel like this song is suffering the most from these two things. It sounds like Matt laid down the drum track while listening to a click track with no idea what the song was going to be, then Ed comes in and lays down his lame ass novice chords on top of it, then everyone else tries their best to dress it up. I don't blame them, it's really hard at that point.
Just terrible, terrible, lame lame stuff here.
I agree with all this
Re: Superblood Wolfmoon
Posted: Tue February 18, 2020 2:53 pm
by tree_
I can imagine the conversations that go on in the inner circle... "It's not great.. but it's music.. just let Ed do what Ed does.. well, the fans love him! We gotta release SOMETHING.. it's been too long... just have fun with it!"
Re: Superblood Wolfmoon
Posted: Tue February 18, 2020 2:53 pm
by DeeDee
Anders wrote:DeeDee wrote:Seeing people putting SBWM over Leatherman is beyond me.
Leatherman is a bottom five song of about 200 Pearl Jam songs. It's awful.
I don't think so.
Re: Superblood Wolfmoon
Posted: Tue February 18, 2020 2:56 pm
by Homeboyd
Habitman wrote:Song is very good...
Thinking of the live performance:
Ed struggles with these wordy/fast paced songs live and now he's going have a guitar too?!
Ed has NO chance to sing this. None.
That said the song is still good! 4 outta 5.
I’m enjoying RM bringing the hate with a renewed vigor after having to sit on the sidelines during DotC
Re: Superblood Wolfmoon
Posted: Tue February 18, 2020 2:57 pm
by Ms Harmless
this band's drummer(s) used to be able to take a fairly structurally and aesthetically standard song, and give it a surprising and off-kilter feel; heck, even Matt did during Binaural - Riot Act; now he just kinda... keeps time
Re: Superblood Wolfmoon
Posted: Tue February 18, 2020 2:58 pm
by DeeDee
jrut81 wrote:tree_ wrote:Wow Matt's drumming has never been more boring. I don't understand why he chooses to be so stifled/stifling. No energy and generic/simple AF beat.
Ed just... sounds phony. That "energy" he's trying to bring when he goes "ehhhhHHHHHHHHHHH!!!!!!" just comes outta nowhere and doesn't flow anytime he tries to bring it. He needs to start FEELING a song.
I feel like this song is suffering the most from these two things. It sounds like Matt laid down the drum track while listening to a click track with no idea what the song was going to be, then Ed comes in and lays down his lame ass novice chords on top of it, then everyone else tries their best to dress it up. I don't blame them, it's really hard at that point.
Just terrible, terrible, lame lame stuff here.
I agree with all this
Matt sucks hard here. Really hard.
Re: Superblood Wolfmoon
Posted: Tue February 18, 2020 2:59 pm
by Ms Harmless
I'm holding out hope for Matt's songs (was it just one, or more?) being more interesting