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Re: Fall 2013 North American Tour
Posted: Mon July 15, 2013 8:30 pm
by Dr. Van Nostrand
cutuphalfdead wrote:You guys are idiots. Whether you find out now or later doesn't change whether you have them or not. The lottery doesn't change your odds of getting tickets from the old f5 system. This has no affect on the value of Ten club membership.
while i agree that its dumb for me to want to know right now even though it doesnt to much but to ease my mind, is there a huge difference in wanting to know now on the tickets and hunting out leaks of songs that we will all easily hear in a couple of months anyway?
Re: Fall 2013 North American Tour
Posted: Mon July 15, 2013 8:31 pm
by E.H. Ruddock
dimejinky99 wrote:sbhalla6 wrote:This whole lottery has been a joke. This could easily be processed by computer in about 15 minutes. And 10C was supposed to provide a pre-sale timeline on their website in real-time, and instead no timeline but random 10C members have had orders fulfilled while others have nothing. It's just another way to frustrate fan club members.
And they don't and it takes this long cos they're cross checking they're ticket requests with their naughty boy lists. Count on it.
But talking about a "leak" is not against any policy. If they are truly singling out people because we are talking about a soundchecked song that may or may not have been a new song, then I'm getting a lawyer.
Re: Fall 2013 North American Tour
Posted: Mon July 15, 2013 8:40 pm
by commo
I slit the sheet, the sheet I slit and on the slitted sheet I sit
Re: Fall 2013 North American Tour
Posted: Mon July 15, 2013 8:43 pm
by dimejinky99
I wouldn't imagine a distinction is made between talking about it and passing it around.
It's copyrighted material and basically stolen. Proving they use this method might be tricky but my own experience says they do. They're well within their rights to, as old school as the thinking behind it might be.
Re: Fall 2013 North American Tour
Posted: Mon July 15, 2013 8:44 pm
by harmless
dimejinky99 wrote:sbhalla6 wrote:This whole lottery has been a joke. This could easily be processed by computer in about 15 minutes. And 10C was supposed to provide a pre-sale timeline on their website in real-time, and instead no timeline but random 10C members have had orders fulfilled while others have nothing. It's just another way to frustrate fan club members.
And they don't and it takes this long cos they're cross checking they're ticket requests with their naughty boy lists. Count on it.
Seriously dime? This is fucking stupid at the very least, and probably illegal.
Re: Fall 2013 North American Tour
Posted: Mon July 15, 2013 8:45 pm
by E.H. Ruddock
dimejinky99 wrote:I wouldn't imagine a distinction is made between talking about it and passing it around.
It's copyrighted material and basically stolen. Proving they use this method might be tricky but my own experience says they do. They're well within their rights to, as old school as the thinking behind it might be.
Who is to say there aren't a few of us talking about a fake song just to be able to rickroll the masses?
Re: Fall 2013 North American Tour
Posted: Mon July 15, 2013 8:45 pm
by harmless
dimejinky99 wrote:I wouldn't imagine a distinction is made between talking about it and passing it around.
It's copyrighted material and basically stolen. Proving they use this method might be tricky but my own experience says they do. They're well within their rights to, as old school as the thinking behind it might be.
What rights? Show me a reference to those rights?
Re: Fall 2013 North American Tour
Posted: Mon July 15, 2013 8:46 pm
by dimejinky99
harmless wrote:dimejinky99 wrote:sbhalla6 wrote:This whole lottery has been a joke. This could easily be processed by computer in about 15 minutes. And 10C was supposed to provide a pre-sale timeline on their website in real-time, and instead no timeline but random 10C members have had orders fulfilled while others have nothing. It's just another way to frustrate fan club members.
And they don't and it takes this long cos they're cross checking they're ticket requests with their naughty boy lists. Count on it.
Seriously dime? This is fucking stupid at the very least, and probably illegal.
It's the conspiracy theorist in me:)
But yeah, they're watching. Evvvvvverythinggggggg
Re: Fall 2013 North American Tour
Posted: Mon July 15, 2013 8:49 pm
by littlecomment
harmless wrote:dimejinky99 wrote:I wouldn't imagine a distinction is made between talking about it and passing it around.
It's copyrighted material and basically stolen. Proving they use this method might be tricky but my own experience says they do. They're well within their rights to, as old school as the thinking behind it might be.
What rights? Show me a reference to those rights?
Maybe they can redo "Know Your Rights" on the upcoming tour for the fan club members.
Re: Fall 2013 North American Tour
Posted: Mon July 15, 2013 8:50 pm
by @SkitchP
dimejinky99 wrote:harmless wrote:dimejinky99 wrote:sbhalla6 wrote:This whole lottery has been a joke. This could easily be processed by computer in about 15 minutes. And 10C was supposed to provide a pre-sale timeline on their website in real-time, and instead no timeline but random 10C members have had orders fulfilled while others have nothing. It's just another way to frustrate fan club members.
And they don't and it takes this long cos they're cross checking they're ticket requests with their naughty boy lists. Count on it.
Seriously dime? This is fucking stupid at the very least, and probably illegal.
It's the conspiracy theorist in me:)
But yeah, they're watching. Evvvvvverythinggggggg
For as douchey as they are, they wouldn't risk this.
Re: Fall 2013 North American Tour
Posted: Mon July 15, 2013 8:59 pm
by dimejinky99
Well they're an independent band and their people are looking out for them so its only to be expected.
Re: Fall 2013 North American Tour
Posted: Mon July 15, 2013 9:01 pm
by Dr. Van Nostrand
unless it changes in a few minutes, i currently show that i won my tickets to both charlottesville and charlotte
Re: Fall 2013 North American Tour
Posted: Mon July 15, 2013 9:02 pm
by @SkitchP
dimejinky99 wrote:Well they're an independent band and their people are looking out for them so its only to be expected.
They're also an independent band with a for profit fan club. Marketing something as a fair lottery and then manipulating that lottery would leave them open to a lawsuit from pretty much any individual who applied for and did not get tickets to every single one of their choices.
Re: Fall 2013 North American Tour
Posted: Mon July 15, 2013 9:04 pm
by Charlie
Dr. Van Nostrand wrote:unless it changes in a few minutes, i currently show that i won my tickets to both charlottesville and charlotte
Re: Fall 2013 North American Tour
Posted: Mon July 15, 2013 9:05 pm
by Birds in Hell
cutuphalfdead wrote:The lottery doesn't change your odds of getting tickets from the old f5 system.
I used to agree, but now I don't. The new system absolutely reduces your chances at getting tickets to more than one show and, in practice, makes it less likely that you'll even manage to get that. I'm kind of ambivalent as to whether that's a good or bad thing, it doesn't really affect me either way, but I presume it was a conscious choice to spread the ticket distribution around a lot more.
Re: Fall 2013 North American Tour
Posted: Mon July 15, 2013 9:06 pm
by littlecomment
10C wrote:
1:46pm Pacific: The drawing for Leg #1 of the N. American Tour is complete. Cards get processed one at a time. Once a member's card is charged, his/her "My Tickets" page will be updated to show their drawing status.
Due to the number of tickets we were able to acquire for these shows, it will take several hours to complete each transaction, so your patience is appreciated.
Once all Leg #1 winners are completely charged, we'll update this page and move on to charging cards for Leg #2.
Re: Fall 2013 North American Tour
Posted: Mon July 15, 2013 9:07 pm
by Birds in Hell
dimejinky99 wrote:Well they're an independent band and their people are looking out for them so its only to be expected.
No, it isn't. As everyone else said, I'm positive they're not doing that. If they don't want you to get tickets, they would cancel your membership (which has happened in the past.)
Re: Fall 2013 North American Tour
Posted: Mon July 15, 2013 9:08 pm
by sildogg
I just got my email...standing room for Hartford but Worcester and Brooklyn shows I lost out on
Re: Fall 2013 North American Tour
Posted: Mon July 15, 2013 9:10 pm
by dimejinky99
Cool. They can't win anyways cos they have a finite amount of tickets and limited possibility of making it fair for everyone. Whole thing could be avoided if they jut went GA with the entire floor.
Re: Fall 2013 North American Tour
Posted: Mon July 15, 2013 9:13 pm
by Birds in Hell
dimejinky99 wrote:Cool. They can't win anyways cos they have a finite amount of tickets and limited possibility of making it fair for everyone. Whole thing could be avoided if they jut went GA with the entire floor.
I think they should just get out of running the fanclub ticketing altogether, let Ticketmaster (or whoever) handle it but allow members to have first shot at the tickets using a code, etc.
From memory, that was the approach they used for the 2011 Canadian shows and it seemed to work out fine.