Re: tree_Maybe Wants to Talk About Systematic Racism in the
Posted: Thu June 18, 2020 5:42 pm
Red Mosquito
Systemic / Institutional / Societal Racism
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Re: tree_Maybe Wants to Talk About Systematic Racism in the
Posted: Thu June 18, 2020 5:44 pm
I mean there's probably some* truth to that, but it's such a ridiculous thing to latch onto to prove that racism isn't the problem.wease wrote:Wrong.tree_ wrote:No. Because an affluent black person also has the upper hand over a poor white person.Strat wrote:and that , my friend, is systemic racism. So do you understand now?tree_ wrote:Agreed.Strat wrote:Bingo.4/5 wrote:I think poor people are more likely to be arrested for committing the type of crimes we choose to police the most.tree_ wrote:I don't think black people are more likely to commit crimes, I think poor people are more likely to commit crimes. If a black person and a white person were born into the same socioeconomic situation, I have no reason to believe one would be less successful than the other.digster wrote:I'm done, and granted, the quote threads probably make the last few pages look like a mess; just wanted to make the point that thinking that black people are more likely to commit crimes, whatever the reason you may have for thinking that, is by definition bias and is going to show up in the work of police officers if they share that view.wease wrote:Give up, digster.
And also more likely to be arrested for committing the same type of crime that affluent white people commit.
*But probably not very much
Re: tree_Maybe Wants to Talk About Systematic Racism in the
Posted: Thu June 18, 2020 5:44 pm
Strat wrote:Bingo.4/5 wrote:I think poor people are more likely to be arrested for committing the type of crimes we choose to police the most.tree_ wrote:I don't think black people are more likely to commit crimes, I think poor people are more likely to commit crimes. If a black person and a white person were born into the same socioeconomic situation, I have no reason to believe one would be less successful than the other.digster wrote:I'm done, and granted, the quote threads probably make the last few pages look like a mess; just wanted to make the point that thinking that black people are more likely to commit crimes, whatever the reason you may have for thinking that, is by definition bias and is going to show up in the work of police officers if they share that view.wease wrote:Give up, digster.
And also more likely to be arrested for committing the same type of crime that affluent white people commit.
I don't know about this one. What's the evidence here?
Re: tree_Maybe Wants to Talk About Systematic Racism in the
Posted: Thu June 18, 2020 5:45 pm
The fact that black people are disproportionately poor has something to do with systemic racism, yes.
Re: tree_Maybe Wants to Talk About Systematic Racism in the
Posted: Thu June 18, 2020 6:03 pm
Now im just recently learning about it but depending on which argument you listen to, the crack/cocaine sentencing laws perhaps lends some interesting discussion points.Bi_3 wrote:Strat wrote:Bingo.4/5 wrote:I think poor people are more likely to be arrested for committing the type of crimes we choose to police the most.tree_ wrote:I don't think black people are more likely to commit crimes, I think poor people are more likely to commit crimes. If a black person and a white person were born into the same socioeconomic situation, I have no reason to believe one would be less successful than the other.digster wrote:I'm done, and granted, the quote threads probably make the last few pages look like a mess; just wanted to make the point that thinking that black people are more likely to commit crimes, whatever the reason you may have for thinking that, is by definition bias and is going to show up in the work of police officers if they share that view.wease wrote:Give up, digster.
And also more likely to be arrested for committing the same type of crime that affluent white people commit.
I don't know about this one. What's the evidence here?
Additionally, i wonder if police were to stop and frisk white people to the same degree, what kind of marijuana sentencing statistic could look like.
Re: tree_Maybe Wants to Talk About Systematic Racism in the
Posted: Thu June 18, 2020 6:04 pm
I'm pretty sure every sane person agrees the war on drugs has many racist/classist components and needs to end.
Re: tree_Maybe Wants to Talk About Systematic Racism in the
Posted: Thu June 18, 2020 6:34 pm
I think drugs are pretty much required at this point given income inequality. No reason they should be illegal.
Re: tree_Maybe Wants to Talk About Systematic Racism in the
Posted: Thu June 18, 2020 7:11 pm
This whole discussion has a very chicken and egg feel to it right now. Couldn't the argument be made that black crime actually re-enforces systemic racism?
Re: tree_Maybe Wants to Talk About Systematic Racism in the
Posted: Thu June 18, 2020 7:32 pm
Good lord.
Re: tree_Maybe Wants to Talk About Systematic Racism in the
Posted: Thu June 18, 2020 7:35 pm
And I'm reminded why I was staying out of here...
Re: tree_Maybe Wants to Talk About Systematic Racism in the
Posted: Thu June 18, 2020 7:38 pm
Lol
Re: tree_Maybe Wants to Talk About Systematic Racism in the
Posted: Thu June 18, 2020 7:51 pm
Going somewhere with this, dont leave itelliseamos wrote:And I'm reminded why I was staying out of here...
Re: tree_Maybe Wants to Talk About Systematic Racism in the
Posted: Thu June 18, 2020 7:53 pm
"good lord" is sufficient enough
you're racist now
you're racist now
Re: tree_Maybe Wants to Talk About Systematic Racism in the
Posted: Thu June 18, 2020 7:55 pm
"Now"
Re: tree_Maybe Wants to Talk About Systematic Racism in the
Posted: Thu June 18, 2020 7:58 pm
Et tu, Jorge?Jorge wrote:"Now"
Re: tree_Maybe Wants to Talk About Systematic Racism in the
Posted: Thu June 18, 2020 8:10 pm
super fun and relevant
Re: tree_Maybe Wants to Talk About Systematic Racism in the
Posted: Thu June 18, 2020 8:11 pm
I give up, what sin did I commit this time?
Re: tree_Maybe Wants to Talk About Systematic Racism in the
Posted: Thu June 18, 2020 8:16 pm
You asked the wrong question. Heresy.
Re: tree_Maybe Wants to Talk About Systematic Racism in the
Posted: Thu June 18, 2020 8:19 pm
I hate to say I told you soBi_3 wrote:I give up, what sin did I commit this time?
Re: tree_Maybe Wants to Talk About Systematic Racism in the
Posted: Thu June 18, 2020 9:05 pm
More racism from liberal white people
