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Ukraine is also a unique conflict (like most conflicts are to a certain degree), and I can fully understand why many react so strongly. The use of great force from one of the worlds most powerful countries, a dictatorship, invading and bombing their democratic neighbour. It really should be one of the easiest good vs bad conflicts out there. There is also the threat of escalation and nuclear war, that few other current wars or conflicts have in the same way. It is also a new conflict in the degree of war it is at the moment.
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See that’s why I love your Contributions, Anders.

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We need to just fucking take Putin out. He’s already bombing hospitals and shit. There’s nothing the man won’t do. He’s gotta go.
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wease wrote:We need to just fucking take Putin out. He’s already bombing hospitals and shit. There’s nothing the man won’t do. He’s gotta go.
Who is gonna do that though? And internally who do they replace him with?

Strangling his cronies assets globally who are minding his stolen money is the most effective way of doing it.
What that will lead to is the thing.
Russian military chiefs won’t follow any order for nuclear strike apparently. But it just takes one of them to and we’re all fucked
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dimejinky99 wrote:
wease wrote:We need to just fucking take Putin out. He’s already bombing hospitals and shit. There’s nothing the man won’t do. He’s gotta go.
Who is gonna do that though? And internally who do they replace him with?

Strangling his cronies assets globally who are minding his stolen money is the most effective way of doing it.
What that will lead to is the thing.
Russian military chiefs won’t follow any order for nuclear strike apparently. But it just takes one of them to and we’re all fucked
Exactly. And they seem to have no compunction that keeps them from bombing hospitals with children and babies. Or shooting down passenger airplanes. If they’re willing to follow those orders they’ll launch nukes if he tells them to. We’ve not been able to keep this motherfucker in check for the last 30 years. Why do we think he’s the best choice to have in the position?
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He’s going to be defenistrated. Physically or otherwise. Quite soon.
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While I fully understand where, you're coming from. If the west was to openly take him out, one should assume with an almost 100% certainty, that it would mean war with Russia, NATO vs Russia, and that nukes would be used. Millions more would die, if not billions.
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Anders wrote:While I fully understand where, you're coming from. If the west was to openly take him out, one should assume with an almost 100% certainty, that it would mean war with Russia, NATO vs Russia, and that nukes would be used. Millions more would die, if not billions.

How so?

Nobody around him supports him it seems.

Only way the worst happens is Russian subs as sea get cut off and assume the worst
Do you mean that?

Ps it would be billions. All of us
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Anders wrote:While I fully understand where, you're coming from. If the west was to openly take him out, one should assume with an almost 100% certainty, that it would mean war with Russia, NATO vs Russia, and that nukes would be used. Millions more would die, if not billions.
War against Russia is inevitable. It’s what he wants and he’s pushing every button he has to get it.
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dimejinky99 wrote:
Anders wrote:While I fully understand where, you're coming from. If the west was to openly take him out, one should assume with an almost 100% certainty, that it would mean war with Russia, NATO vs Russia, and that nukes would be used. Millions more would die, if not billions.

How so?

Nobody around him supports him it seems.

Only way the worst happens is Russian subs as sea get cut off and assume the worst
Do you mean that?
If the US were to assassinate the leader of Russia, the leaders in Russia would not sit back and say: "good riddance, what a cock he was".
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wease wrote:
Anders wrote:While I fully understand where, you're coming from. If the west was to openly take him out, one should assume with an almost 100% certainty, that it would mean war with Russia, NATO vs Russia, and that nukes would be used. Millions more would die, if not billions.
War against Russia is inevitable. It’s what he wants and he’s pushing every button he has to get it.
What is happening is bad enough, and insane enough, but I still don't think he wants a full war with the west. It would be devastating for everyone. Very difficult to sit back and see the kind of bombing that's going on though. Certainly makes us look patethic, that we can do so little.
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Anders wrote:
wease wrote:
Anders wrote:While I fully understand where, you're coming from. If the west was to openly take him out, one should assume with an almost 100% certainty, that it would mean war with Russia, NATO vs Russia, and that nukes would be used. Millions more would die, if not billions.
War against Russia is inevitable. It’s what he wants and he’s pushing every button he has to get it.
What is happening is bad enough, and insane enough, but I still don't think he wants a full war with the west. It would be devastating for everyone. Very difficult to sit back and see the kind of bombing that's going on though. Certainly makes us look patethic, that we can do so little.
So how do we stop it? If you want a snake to stop biting you, you cut its fucking head off. We can’t just keep sitting back and saying “well, that’s an acceptable loss” every time they do something like that. How many more kids hospitals have to be destroyed or Chernobyls have to melt down while we wait on the economic sanctions to finally choke him out? Those kids shouldn’t be sacrificed like that. It’s abominable.
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wease wrote:
Anders wrote:
wease wrote:
Anders wrote:While I fully understand where, you're coming from. If the west was to openly take him out, one should assume with an almost 100% certainty, that it would mean war with Russia, NATO vs Russia, and that nukes would be used. Millions more would die, if not billions.
War against Russia is inevitable. It’s what he wants and he’s pushing every button he has to get it.
What is happening is bad enough, and insane enough, but I still don't think he wants a full war with the west. It would be devastating for everyone. Very difficult to sit back and see the kind of bombing that's going on though. Certainly makes us look patethic, that we can do so little.
So how do we stop it? If you want a snake to stop biting you, you cut its fucking head off. We can’t just keep sitting back and saying “well, that’s an acceptable loss” every time they do something like that. How many more kids hospitals have to be destroyed or Chernobyls have to melt down while we wait on the economic sanctions to finally choke him out? Those kids shouldn’t be sacrificed like that. It’s abominable.
It really is awful. I wish we could do more. At the very least, let’s get those old Polish jets to the Ukrainians, instead of just in a base in Germany, under US control.
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Anders wrote:
dimejinky99 wrote:
Anders wrote:While I fully understand where, you're coming from. If the west was to openly take him out, one should assume with an almost 100% certainty, that it would mean war with Russia, NATO vs Russia, and that nukes would be used. Millions more would die, if not billions.

How so?

Nobody around him supports him it seems.

Only way the worst happens is Russian subs as sea get cut off and assume the worst
Do you mean that?
If the US were to assassinate the leader of Russia, the leaders in Russia would not sit back and say: "good riddance, what a cock he was".
They actually might though. And who said it would be the US?

He’s very most likely to die at the hand of one his own generals or inner circle
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dimejinky99 wrote:
Anders wrote:
dimejinky99 wrote:
Anders wrote:While I fully understand where, you're coming from. If the west was to openly take him out, one should assume with an almost 100% certainty, that it would mean war with Russia, NATO vs Russia, and that nukes would be used. Millions more would die, if not billions.

How so?

Nobody around him supports him it seems.

Only way the worst happens is Russian subs as sea get cut off and assume the worst
Do you mean that?
If the US were to assassinate the leader of Russia, the leaders in Russia would not sit back and say: "good riddance, what a cock he was".
They actually might though. And who said it would be the US?

He’s very most likely to die at the hand of one his own generals or inner circle
A coup from the inside would be great.
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Anders wrote:
dimejinky99 wrote:
Anders wrote:
dimejinky99 wrote:
Anders wrote:While I fully understand where, you're coming from. If the west was to openly take him out, one should assume with an almost 100% certainty, that it would mean war with Russia, NATO vs Russia, and that nukes would be used. Millions more would die, if not billions.

How so?

Nobody around him supports him it seems.

Only way the worst happens is Russian subs as sea get cut off and assume the worst
Do you mean that?
If the US were to assassinate the leader of Russia, the leaders in Russia would not sit back and say: "good riddance, what a cock he was".
They actually might though. And who said it would be the US?

He’s very most likely to die at the hand of one his own generals or inner circle
A coup from the inside would be great.

That’s historically what’s happens when Russian dictators do this.

And he knows this. Hence the big tables and ginormous rooms for meetings.


It will happen. Let’s just hope it’s soon
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dimejinky99 wrote:
Anders wrote:
dimejinky99 wrote:
Anders wrote:
dimejinky99 wrote:
Anders wrote:While I fully understand where, you're coming from. If the west was to openly take him out, one should assume with an almost 100% certainty, that it would mean war with Russia, NATO vs Russia, and that nukes would be used. Millions more would die, if not billions.

How so?

Nobody around him supports him it seems.

Only way the worst happens is Russian subs as sea get cut off and assume the worst
Do you mean that?
If the US were to assassinate the leader of Russia, the leaders in Russia would not sit back and say: "good riddance, what a cock he was".
They actually might though. And who said it would be the US?

He’s very most likely to die at the hand of one his own generals or inner circle
A coup from the inside would be great.

That’s historically what’s happens when Russian dictators do this.

And he knows this. Hence the big tables and ginormous rooms for meetings.


It will happen. Let’s just hope it’s soon
That’s like waiting for Trump to die of old age.
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wease wrote:
dimejinky99 wrote:
Anders wrote:
dimejinky99 wrote:
Anders wrote:
dimejinky99 wrote:
Anders wrote:While I fully understand where, you're coming from. If the west was to openly take him out, one should assume with an almost 100% certainty, that it would mean war with Russia, NATO vs Russia, and that nukes would be used. Millions more would die, if not billions.

How so?

Nobody around him supports him it seems.

Only way the worst happens is Russian subs as sea get cut off and assume the worst
Do you mean that?
If the US were to assassinate the leader of Russia, the leaders in Russia would not sit back and say: "good riddance, what a cock he was".
They actually might though. And who said it would be the US?

He’s very most likely to die at the hand of one his own generals or inner circle
A coup from the inside would be great.

That’s historically what’s happens when Russian dictators do this.

And he knows this. Hence the big tables and ginormous rooms for meetings.


It will happen. Let’s just hope it’s soon
That’s like waiting for Trump to die of old age.


That bastard will outlive all of us
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