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Re: Are you not going to watch the Oscars this year?
Posted: Mon March 28, 2022 11:05 pm
by Ms Harmless
Jorge wrote:Ms Harmless wrote:spike wrote:washing machine wrote:tree_ wrote:warehouse wrote:tree pretending the joke was a compliment is the best part of this whole thing.
I am more and more unable to see how it wasn't a compliment, the more times I see it.
fucking tree

it certainly wasn't an insult (assuming rock didn't know about the alopecia).
news is increasingly that he did and made the joke anyway
Where are you getting this? I'm only seeing the opposite
I'm drunk and it was on Twitter
Re: Are you not going to watch the Oscars this year?
Posted: Mon March 28, 2022 11:05 pm
by Jorge
Ms Harmless wrote:I'm pretty sure what Will did in this instance was not orthodox Scientology methodology; it was just a fucking slap
Which is taught and normalized in Scientology as a method of correction, see reports of David Miscavige applying it on adults at various orgs
Re: Are you not going to watch the Oscars this year?
Posted: Mon March 28, 2022 11:06 pm
by Jorge
The Going Clear book goes into it at length, it's ingrained into the ideology
Re: Are you not going to watch the Oscars this year?
Posted: Mon March 28, 2022 11:07 pm
by Birds in Hell
Smith should've been kicked out of the event, but I think the Academy even considering revoking his award would be a ridiculous over-correction.
Re: Are you not going to watch the Oscars this year?
Posted: Mon March 28, 2022 11:07 pm
by Jorge
Ms Harmless wrote:Jorge wrote:Ms Harmless wrote:spike wrote:washing machine wrote:tree_ wrote:warehouse wrote:tree pretending the joke was a compliment is the best part of this whole thing.
I am more and more unable to see how it wasn't a compliment, the more times I see it.
fucking tree

it certainly wasn't an insult (assuming rock didn't know about the alopecia).
news is increasingly that he did and made the joke anyway
Where are you getting this? I'm only seeing the opposite
I'm drunk and it was on Twitter
What are you drinking?
Re: Are you not going to watch the Oscars this year?
Posted: Mon March 28, 2022 11:07 pm
by Jorge
Birds in Hell wrote:Smith should've been kicked out of the event, but I think the Academy even considering revoking his award would be a ridiculous over-correction.
Agree
Re: Are you not going to watch the Oscars this year?
Posted: Mon March 28, 2022 11:10 pm
by B
Re: Are you not going to watch the Oscars this year?
Posted: Mon March 28, 2022 11:13 pm
by wease
Jorge wrote:The influence of Will's not-so-secret connection to Scientology is also something to consider, Scientology famously teaching the use of physical violence as a method of correction
If he’s so into Scientology, why the references to god? I didn’t think they believed in god. Or is he referring to L. Ron?
Re: Are you not going to watch the Oscars this year?
Posted: Mon March 28, 2022 11:15 pm
by Jorge
Yeah there's space in Scientology belief for god. They leave a lot of room for that to capture as many people of as many faiths as possible, like "this is something that can coexist with your existing religious beliefs"
Re: Are you not going to watch the Oscars this year?
Posted: Mon March 28, 2022 11:17 pm
by wease
B wrote:
“Will Smith felt bad because he didn’t stand up to his dad beating his mom, so he attacked another Chris Rock for insulting his wife.”
Isn’t that kinda a violence begat violence cliche?
Re: Are you not going to watch the Oscars this year?
Posted: Mon March 28, 2022 11:18 pm
by wease
Jorge wrote:Yeah there's space in Scientology belief for god. They leave a lot of room for that to capture as many people of as many faiths as possible, like "this is something that can coexist with your existing religious beliefs"
Clever guys, those Scientologists
Re: Are you not going to watch the Oscars this year?
Posted: Mon March 28, 2022 11:19 pm
by Mickey
Ms Harmless wrote:I'm pretty sure what Will did in this instance was not orthodox Scientology methodology; it was just a fucking slap
Well well well, if it isn't someone saying that if we can reasonably reduce a claims to complexity down to their own claim to simplicity, then wash our hands and be done with it, shouldn't we?
Re: Are you not going to watch the Oscars this year?
Posted: Mon March 28, 2022 11:23 pm
by Ms Harmless
Mickey wrote:Ms Harmless wrote:I'm pretty sure what Will did in this instance was not orthodox Scientology methodology; it was just a fucking slap
Well well well, if it isn't someone saying that if we can reasonably reduce a claims to complexity down to their own claim to simplicity, then wash our hands and be done with it, shouldn't we?

Re: Are you not going to watch the Oscars this year?
Posted: Mon March 28, 2022 11:26 pm
by Ms Harmless
you're all right; he slogged a shitty comedian for insulting his wife because he's a scientologist! expert analysis lads
Re: Are you not going to watch the Oscars this year?
Posted: Mon March 28, 2022 11:29 pm
by warehouse
Ms Harmless wrote:you're all right; he slogged a shitty comedian for insulting his wife because he's a scientologist! expert analysis lads

i think chris rock was really just seeking vengeance for tupac.
Re: Are you not going to watch the Oscars this year?
Posted: Mon March 28, 2022 11:30 pm
by Ms Harmless
warehouse wrote:Ms Harmless wrote:you're all right; he slogged a shitty comedian for insulting his wife because he's a scientologist! expert analysis lads

i think chris rock was really just seeking vengeance for tupac.
absolutely
Re: Are you not going to watch the Oscars this year?
Posted: Mon March 28, 2022 11:39 pm
by Jorge
Ms Harmless wrote:you're all right; he slogged a shitty comedian for insulting his wife because he's a scientologist! expert analysis lads
Most functioning adults don't go around slapping people for making jokes, but it's a behavior that is normalized in their upper level courses and practice. It might've played a part is what I am positing
Re: Are you not going to watch the Oscars this year?
Posted: Mon March 28, 2022 11:39 pm
by Birds in Hell
https://www.instagram.com/p/CbqmaY1p7Pz/
Will Smith wrote:Violence in all of its forms is poisonous and destructive. My behavior at last night’s Academy Awards was unacceptable and inexcusable. Jokes at my expense are a part of the job, but a joke about Jada’s medical condition was too much for me to bear and I reacted emotionally.
I would like to publicly apologize to you, Chris. I was out of line and I was wrong. I am embarrassed and my actions were not indicative of the man I want to be. There is no place for violence in a world of love and kindness.
I would also like to apologize to the Academy, the producers of the show, all the attendees and everyone watching around the world. I would like to apologize to the Williams Family and my King Richard Family. I deeply regret that my behavior has stained what has been an otherwise gorgeous journey for all of us.
I am a work in progress.
Sincerely,
Will
Re: Are you not going to watch the Oscars this year?
Posted: Mon March 28, 2022 11:43 pm
by Ms Harmless
Jorge wrote:Ms Harmless wrote:you're all right; he slogged a shitty comedian for insulting his wife because he's a scientologist! expert analysis lads
Most functioning adults don't go around slapping people for making jokes, but it's a behavior that is normalized in their upper level courses and practice. It might've played a part is what I am positing
OK but I think the idea that the decision taken by Will couldn't possibly be one of a "functioning adult" is fucking disgusting
Re: Are you not going to watch the Oscars this year?
Posted: Mon March 28, 2022 11:45 pm
by B
wease wrote:B wrote:
“Will Smith felt bad because he didn’t stand up to his dad beating his mom, so he attacked another Chris Rock for insulting his wife.”
Isn’t that kinda a violence begat violence cliche?
Maybe?