Re: Waiting For Stevie
Posted: Thu September 12, 2024 2:59 pm
more of an analogy than a compariosntragabigzanda wrote:Please stop comparing mediocre Gigaton and poop Dark Matter to No Code and Yield
more of an analogy than a compariosntragabigzanda wrote:Please stop comparing mediocre Gigaton and poop Dark Matter to No Code and Yield
tragabigzanda wrote: But there's just no direct correlation between Yield and Dark Matter.
or alternatively, that one came out while we were in high school or college while the other came out while we are jaded middle aged men desperately holding onto the illusion of the purity of youth. I suppose in that case you’re right. the analogy breaks down.tragabigzanda wrote:It's still a weak analogy. No Code and Yield are founded on a spirit of experimentation and subversion of expectation. As we've been discussing in the Flaws of Yield thread, you remove two songs and it's a very wonky album.
I can buy that Gigaton is a modern-day No Code, in the way it varies its song styles, maintaining a fairly similar sense of searching, and occasionally plodding, rather than swinging for the fences.
But there's just no direct correlation between Yield and Dark Matter. The former is an open-minded collaborative effort informed by each members' respective influences at that time. The latter is a successful exercise in mid-life crises put to Pro Tools.
Hard disagree with the first part. But I have a feeling "major" is more of a taste thing than quantifiable in any real way. The last sentence feels right.stip wrote:its an incredible record, but Gigaton (by design) doesnt feel major. its a little too long, rambling, introspective in a stream of consciousness kind of way - probably reflecting how it was developed. Its the No Code to Dark Matter’s Yield in that way
stip wrote:my post was 10%moreless aggressive than it needed to be
Well now that's interestingdigster wrote:I'm not sure there's any direct 1-1 comparisons between the band's records, but when thinking of Gigaton/Dark Matter, I think that the most apt comparison is to Riot Act/ST, which I think lines up relatively succinctly.
It's a good comparison. I was thinking the same as well, butepilogue wrote:Well now that's interestingdigster wrote:I'm not sure there's any direct 1-1 comparisons between the band's records, but when thinking of Gigaton/Dark Matter, I think that the most apt comparison is to Riot Act/ST, which I think lines up relatively succinctly.
It probably is taste. I was thinking major in that the records feel more statement making in their intent, even as they puzzle things through, whereas No Code (or Riot Act or Gigaton) feel more like you are witnessing something quiet, something smaller and more intimate, even if it is powerful and significant. Maybe major is not the right word to use. But Yield (and DM and S/T) are records that want to say something, and are letting you know it, and taking bigger, more deliberate swings. Aspirationally they feel bigger. Whether they hit the mark, how much they move you, etc is a different story altogetherepilogue wrote:Hard disagree with the first part. But I have a feeling "major" is more of a taste thing than quantifiable in any real way. The last sentence feels right.stip wrote:its an incredible record, but Gigaton (by design) doesnt feel major. its a little too long, rambling, introspective in a stream of consciousness kind of way - probably reflecting how it was developed. Its the No Code to Dark Matter’s Yield in that way
Though, I'd argue No Code is a "major" record (or feels so) while Yield is/does not.