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Re: Bill Cosby's Pudding Pop & Other Sexual Assault Stuff

Posted: Thu November 16, 2017 6:28 pm
by Strat
The first thing I want to do is apologize: to Leeann, to everyone else who was part of that tour, to everyone who has worked for me, to everyone I represent, and to everyone who counts on me to be an ally and supporter and champion of women. There's more I want to say, but the first and most important thing—and if it's the only thing you care to hear, that's fine—is: I'm sorry.
I respect women. I don't respect men who don't. And the fact that my own actions have given people a good reason to doubt that makes me feel ashamed.
But I want to say something else, too. Over the last few months, all of us—including and especially men who respect women—have been forced to take a good, hard look at our own actions and think (perhaps, shamefully, for the first time) about how those actions have affected women.
For instance, that picture. I don't know what was in my head when I took that picture, and it doesn't matter. There's no excuse. I look at it now and I feel disgusted with myself. It isn't funny. It's completely inappropriate. It's obvious how Leeann would feel violated by that picture. And, what's more, I can see how millions of other women would feel violated by it—women who have had similar experiences in their own lives, women who fear having those experiences, women who look up to me, women who have counted on me.
Coming from the world of comedy, I've told and written a lot of jokes that I once thought were funny but later came to realize were just plain offensive. But the intentions behind my actions aren't the point at all. It's the impact these jokes had on others that matters. And I'm sorry it's taken me so long to come to terms with that.
While I don't remember the rehearsal for the skit as Leeann does, I understand why we need to listen to and believe women’s experiences.
I am asking that an ethics investigation be undertaken, and I will gladly cooperate.
And the truth is, what people think of me in light of this is far less important than what people think of women who continue to come forward to tell their stories. They deserve to be heard, and believed. And they deserve to know that I am their ally and supporter. I have let them down and am committed to making it up to them.

Re: Bill Cosby's Pudding Pop & Other Sexual Assault Stuff

Posted: Thu November 16, 2017 6:31 pm
by Bi_3
Pretty decent response as these things go

Re: Bill Cosby's Pudding Pop & Other Sexual Assault Stuff

Posted: Thu November 16, 2017 6:31 pm
by tragabigzanda
FUCK ICE

Re: Bill Cosby's Pudding Pop & Other Sexual Assault Stuff

Posted: Thu November 16, 2017 6:58 pm
by Bi_3

Re: Bill Cosby's Pudding Pop & Other Sexual Assault Stuff

Posted: Thu November 16, 2017 7:06 pm
by Bi_3
Al Franken wrote:Coming from the world of comedy, I've told and written a lot of jokes that I once thought were funny but later came to realize were just plain offensive. But the intentions behind my actions aren't the point at all. It's the impact these jokes had on others that matters. And I'm sorry it's taken me so long to come to terms with that.
There would be no comedy if jokes were not allowed to offend anyone.

Re: Bill Cosby's Pudding Pop & Other Sexual Assault Stuff

Posted: Thu November 16, 2017 7:12 pm
by tragabigzanda
FUCK ICE

Re: Bill Cosby's Pudding Pop & Other Sexual Assault Stuff

Posted: Thu November 16, 2017 7:45 pm
by LoathedVermin72
Jesus fucking Christ trag

Re: Bill Cosby's Pudding Pop & Other Sexual Assault Stuff

Posted: Thu November 16, 2017 7:49 pm
by LoathedVermin72
Goddammit. No.

Re: Bill Cosby's Pudding Pop & Other Sexual Assault Stuff

Posted: Thu November 16, 2017 7:52 pm
by McParadigm
I can't believe anybody thought "probably not Sylvester Stallone though"

Re: Bill Cosby's Pudding Pop & Other Sexual Assault Stuff

Posted: Thu November 16, 2017 7:54 pm
by LoathedVermin72
McParadigm wrote:I can't believe anybody thought "probably not Sylvester Stallone though"
But I love him :(

Re: Bill Cosby's Pudding Pop & Other Sexual Assault Stuff

Posted: Thu November 16, 2017 8:00 pm
by McParadigm
LoathedVermin72 wrote:
McParadigm wrote:I can't believe anybody thought "probably not Sylvester Stallone though"
But I love him :(
I disbelieve that we can reject art made by sexually misbehaving men from the last 60 years and still have much left in terms of culture. John Lennon is brutally due for a reevaluation any minute now, and the only true answer is "guilty."

Re: Bill Cosby's Pudding Pop & Other Sexual Assault Stuff

Posted: Thu November 16, 2017 8:15 pm
by darth_vedder
LoathedVermin72 wrote:
Goddammit. No.

Re: Bill Cosby's Pudding Pop & Other Sexual Assault Stuff

Posted: Thu November 16, 2017 8:16 pm
by darth_vedder
McParadigm wrote:
LoathedVermin72 wrote:
McParadigm wrote:I can't believe anybody thought "probably not Sylvester Stallone though"
But I love him :(
I disbelieve that we can reject art made by sexually misbehaving men from the last 60 years and still have much left in terms of culture. John Lennon is brutally due for a reevaluation any minute now, and the only true answer is "guilty."
Wasn't he also physically and verbally abusive to his first wife?

Re: Bill Cosby's Pudding Pop & Other Sexual Assault Stuff

Posted: Thu November 16, 2017 8:20 pm
by bune
I'll be honest - I thought it was a parody at first considering his profession.

Re: Bill Cosby's Pudding Pop & Other Sexual Assault Stuff

Posted: Thu November 16, 2017 8:31 pm
by McParadigm
darth_vedder wrote:
McParadigm wrote:
LoathedVermin72 wrote:
McParadigm wrote:I can't believe anybody thought "probably not Sylvester Stallone though"
But I love him :(
I disbelieve that we can reject art made by sexually misbehaving men from the last 60 years and still have much left in terms of culture. John Lennon is brutally due for a reevaluation any minute now, and the only true answer is "guilty."
Wasn't he also physically and verbally abusive to his first wife?
I assume we start with the girl he grabbed by the breast at Paul's birthday party.

Re: Bill Cosby's Pudding Pop & Other Sexual Assault Stuff

Posted: Thu November 16, 2017 8:36 pm
by LoathedVermin72
McParadigm wrote:
LoathedVermin72 wrote:
McParadigm wrote:I can't believe anybody thought "probably not Sylvester Stallone though"
But I love him :(
I disbelieve that we can reject art made by sexually misbehaving men from the last 60 years and still have much left in terms of culture. John Lennon is brutally due for a reevaluation any minute now, and the only true answer is "guilty."
Oh, I have no plans of rejecting art made by bad people. But it's still upsetting.

Re: Bill Cosby's Pudding Pop & Other Sexual Assault Stuff

Posted: Thu November 16, 2017 8:56 pm
by Jorge
Ani Difranco

Re: Bill Cosby's Pudding Pop & Other Sexual Assault Stuff

Posted: Thu November 16, 2017 8:58 pm
by epilogue
theplatypus wrote:Ani Difranco
Yeah, she'd be a great artist for the next song tournament.

Re: Bill Cosby's Pudding Pop & Other Sexual Assault Stuff

Posted: Thu November 16, 2017 9:09 pm
by BurtReynolds
Watching the political class eat itself is always fun.

Re: Bill Cosby's Pudding Pop & Other Sexual Assault Stuff

Posted: Thu November 16, 2017 9:10 pm
by Bi_3
BurtReynolds wrote:Watching the political class eat itself is always fun.
Not if it means the tax reform bill gets passed in the chaos.