Re: Sleater Kinney / Wild Flag / Quasi / related bands
Posted: Tue July 02, 2019 2:56 am
by Kevin Davis
LoathedVermin72 wrote:Also, is it just me or does her statement sound a little passive aggressive? It seems like she’s barely veiling contempt for their new direction.
I see what you're saying but I really don't hear passive aggression; I feel like she's being pretty healthily frank about simply not wanting to follow the band down this new path they're on. She says it in a nice way, but there's not a lot of room for misinterpretation.
What's most interesting to me is her indication that the whole St. Vincent thing is indeed a "direction," and not a one-off fluke of a project (though I suppose it could be a one-off and she just hates it so much that she can't stand to ride it out) -- in any case, a conscious effort to move not only toward a new thing, but specifically away from an old thing. That's got to be a tough pill to swallow. As a listener, the most jarring thing about this transformation isn't so much the nature of the transformation itself (virtually all the bands I really love and respect have changed course at one time or another, and at this point I'm pretty used to "just add synth" as the default recipe for rock bands trying to "evolve" their sound), it's more that they've gone so long without changing at all that the whole thing ends up feeling like a weird, artsy midlife crisis -- which isn't an attempt to psychoanalyze them, more just an observation that such a change is abrupt and long without precedent. Of course, this may be all the more reason to cheer them on, but it also may be all the more reason to recoil in embarrassment. It's like if Fugazi suddenly made a synth-heavy, deliberately image-driven record, or Shellac -- there's nothing wrong with that approach on principle, and there's always virtue in trying new things, but these are bands who've been who they are and only who they are for so long that it's hard to see the artifice they're suddenly trying to sell as any kind of believable extension of that.
If there's any element of that to what drove Janet to leave the band, she has my sympathy. Watching people you've known and loved for a long time change in ways you don't relate to is a very unique, specific kind of sad.
Re: Sleater Kinney / Wild Flag / Quasi / related bands
Posted: Tue July 02, 2019 4:42 am
by verb_to_trust
One thing is fore sure: the new records sucks. Janet not liking it tells us all we need to know.
Re: Sleater Kinney / Wild Flag / Quasi / related bands
Posted: Tue July 02, 2019 4:49 am
by bodysnatcher
now that i think about it, i don't know a single "Janet" in real life
Re: Sleater Kinney / Wild Flag / Quasi / related bands
Posted: Tue July 02, 2019 10:22 am
by tragabigzanda
Re: Sleater Kinney / Wild Flag / Quasi / related bands
Posted: Tue July 02, 2019 11:46 am
by JuanHamm
verb_to_trust wrote:One thing is fore sure: the new records sucks. Janet not liking it tells us all we need to know.
That is not for sure at all, as none of us have heard the album.
Re: Sleater Kinney / Wild Flag / Quasi / related bands
Posted: Tue July 02, 2019 12:36 pm
by MadTIGERmaN
I think we all need to remember one thing before we right off the whole SK/StV/New Direction...
Sometimes a band has to take a detour down a new path to be able to end up getting back to Rockin in the Free World
Re: Sleater Kinney / Wild Flag / Quasi / related bands
Posted: Tue July 02, 2019 12:59 pm
by E.H. Ruddock
Sleater-Kinney wrote:We are saddened by Janet’s decision to leave Sleater-Kinney. It has been an incredible privilege to work with such a talented musician and drummer over the course of so many albums, including The Center Won’t Hold.
We thank her for joining us on this journey many years ago; we will always cherish our friendship and our time together. We wish Janet all the best as she starts a new chapter in her life.
We are so excited for everybody to hear the record, and to see you on the road this fall and beyond.
Love,
Sleater-Kinney
Re: Sleater Kinney / Wild Flag / Quasi / related bands
Posted: Tue July 02, 2019 1:46 pm
by Monkey_Driven
E.H. Ruddock wrote:
Sleater-Kinney wrote:We are saddened by Janet’s decision to leave Sleater-Kinney. It has been an incredible privilege to work with such a talented musician and drummer over the course of so many albums, including The Center Won’t Hold.
We thank her for joining us on this journey many years ago; we will always cherish our friendship and our time together. We wish Janet all the best as she starts a new chapter in her life.
We are so excited for everybody to hear the record, and to see you on the road this fall and beyond.
Love,
Sleater-Kinney
Re: Sleater Kinney / Wild Flag / Quasi / related bands
Posted: Tue July 02, 2019 3:15 pm
by tragabigzanda
Re: Sleater Kinney / Wild Flag / Quasi / related bands
Posted: Tue July 02, 2019 3:20 pm
by Strat
MadTIGERmaN wrote:I think we all need to remember one thing before we right off the whole SK/StV/New Direction...
Sometimes a band has to take a detour down a new path to be able to end up getting back to Rockin in the Free World
yea but Trans is amazing.
Re: Sleater Kinney / Wild Flag / Quasi / related bands
Posted: Tue July 02, 2019 7:58 pm
by dprival78
janet gets it
two subpar new songs and no real drums?
adios.
Re: Sleater Kinney / Wild Flag / Quasi / related bands
Posted: Tue July 02, 2019 8:06 pm
by run2death
I agree that she's a great drummer, but that's never been the thing that defines SK to me. The guitar interplay and Corin's yowl are the things I gravitate toward.
Re: Sleater Kinney / Wild Flag / Quasi / related bands
Posted: Tue July 02, 2019 8:10 pm
by dprival78
carrie goes hollywood.. the band goes down hill. that amex commercial was the beginning of the end
not like that kind of thing hasn't happened before. eddie sure has been hob-nobbing with the hollywood folk a bunch over the last decade plus himself..
Re: Sleater Kinney / Wild Flag / Quasi / related bands
Posted: Tue July 02, 2019 8:28 pm
by run2death
Yeah, a comedy show on a third-tier cable network is really "going Hollywood."
Good call.
Re: Sleater Kinney / Wild Flag / Quasi / related bands
Posted: Tue July 02, 2019 9:03 pm
by LoathedVermin72
dprival78 wrote:These new songs suck
Knew S-K was in trouble once Carrie started sucking satan’s dick.. they held it off for a while, but after hearing these new songs, and seeing this whole new look they’re going for, I’m afraid the descent is upon us
Re: Sleater Kinney / Wild Flag / Quasi / related bands
Posted: Tue July 02, 2019 9:35 pm
by WtOB?
RIP
Re: Sleater Kinney / Wild Flag / Quasi / related bands
Posted: Tue July 02, 2019 10:26 pm
by verb_to_trust
JuanHamm wrote:
verb_to_trust wrote:One thing is fore sure: the new records sucks. Janet not liking it tells us all we need to know.
That is not for sure at all, as none of us have heard the album.
Janet has. And she thinks it sucks
Re: Sleater Kinney / Wild Flag / Quasi / related bands
Posted: Tue July 02, 2019 10:48 pm
by tragabigzanda
tragabigzanda wrote:
tragabigzanda wrote:Top 10 maybe?
Hello Morning
Close Captioned
The Kill
Place/Position
Do You Like Me?
Latest Disgrace
Recap Modotti
Nightshop
Break
Life & Limb
I'd maybe bump Life & Limb for Epic Problem
Re: Sleater Kinney / Wild Flag / Quasi / related bands
Posted: Wed July 17, 2019 1:32 pm
by tragabigzanda
Re: Sleater Kinney / Wild Flag / Quasi / related bands
Posted: Wed July 17, 2019 1:48 pm
by verb_to_trust
So they're probably not going to get a male drummer then?
