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Re: Chasing Some Mirage: The Boss Tourney-Tremx4/DcT

Posted: Tue May 23, 2017 12:55 pm
by scottmusic
There are so many great songs left to pick. There are still even a few albums that haven't even been touched yet (Lucky Town, High Hopes). Can we extend this to 10 rounds?

Re: Chasing Some Mirage: The Boss Tourney-Tremx4/DcT

Posted: Tue May 23, 2017 1:18 pm
by guestT
Is it my turn? Coffee hasn't kicked in yet and I forgot which direction we're going.

Re: Chasing Some Mirage: The Boss Tourney-Tremx4/DcT

Posted: Tue May 23, 2017 1:25 pm
by LoathedVermin72
scottmusic wrote:There are so many great songs left to pick. There are still even a few albums that haven't even been touched yet (Lucky Town, High Hopes). Can we extend this to 10 rounds?
NO

Re: Chasing Some Mirage: The Boss Tourney-Tremx4/DcT

Posted: Tue May 23, 2017 1:29 pm
by guestT
OK, I'll break the seal on Lucky Town. I don't know what the general consensus is on this album but it's a sentimental favorite. Discovered it post-divorce, right before I met my wife. We walked down the aisle to "If I Should Fall Behind" and have the lyrics framed in our house, but this song has always been more meaningful to me personally:


Re: Chasing Some Mirage: The Boss Tourney-Tremx4/DcT

Posted: Tue May 23, 2017 1:30 pm
by Higgs
guestT wrote:Is it my turn? Coffee hasn't kicked in yet and I forgot which direction we're going.
I believe it is.

Re: Chasing Some Mirage: The Boss Tourney-Tremx4/DcT

Posted: Tue May 23, 2017 1:41 pm
by evenslow
Seems the Boss has really soundtracked some marriages around here. Can you imagine doing that for countless people? And them coming up to you all the time telling you personal stories about something YOU wrote? That's a good life.

Re: Chasing Some Mirage: The Boss Tourney-Tremx4/DcT

Posted: Tue May 23, 2017 2:12 pm
by epilogue
guestT wrote:OK, I'll break the seal on Lucky Town. I don't know what the general consensus is on this album but it's a sentimental favorite. Discovered it post-divorce, right before I met my wife. We walked down the aisle to "If I Should Fall Behind" and have the lyrics framed in our house, but this song has always been more meaningful to me personally:[/youtube]
I went back and forth between this and The Rising with my last pick. Ultimately, I like The Rising more which is why I took it. But I was really hoping this would last until my next pick.

But it seems like it means a lot to you. So, I'm gad I held off so that it could fall to you.

Re: Chasing Some Mirage: The Boss Tourney-Tremx4/DcT

Posted: Tue May 23, 2017 3:09 pm
by bada
My appreciation for Bruce has definitely risen the last few years but I still don't have much use for the Tunnel of Love/Human Touch/Lucky Town run. I think it's more the adult contemporary production as much as the songs. I can happily skip those solo years though KD is right some of the outtakes from those albums are pretty good.

Re: Chasing Some Mirage: The Boss Tourney-Tremx4/DcT

Posted: Tue May 23, 2017 3:21 pm
by evenslow
bada wrote:My appreciation for Bruce has definitely risen the last few years but I still don't have much use for the Tunnel of Love/Human Touch/Lucky Town run. I think it's more the adult contemporary production as much as the songs. I can happily skip those solo years though KD is right some of the outtakes from those albums are pretty good.
I would separate ToL from those other two but I take your point about the production.

Re: Chasing Some Mirage: The Boss Tourney-Tremx4/DcT

Posted: Tue May 23, 2017 3:27 pm
by Monkey_Driven
evenslow wrote:
bada wrote:My appreciation for Bruce has definitely risen the last few years but I still don't have much use for the Tunnel of Love/Human Touch/Lucky Town run. I think it's more the adult contemporary production as much as the songs. I can happily skip those solo years though KD is right some of the outtakes from those albums are pretty good.
I would separate ToL from those other two but I take your point about the production.
Same. Tunnel of Love has some excellent songs with lackluster production. The other two have bad songs (for the most part) with similar production.

Re: Chasing Some Mirage: The Boss Tourney-Tremx4/DcT

Posted: Tue May 23, 2017 3:30 pm
by bada
evenslow wrote:
bada wrote:My appreciation for Bruce has definitely risen the last few years but I still don't have much use for the Tunnel of Love/Human Touch/Lucky Town run. I think it's more the adult contemporary production as much as the songs. I can happily skip those solo years though KD is right some of the outtakes from those albums are pretty good.
I would separate ToL from those other two but I take your point about the production.
One Step Up is a prefect example of a song I like but the production make me nauseous. It just feels like when your a kid and you're in your friends mom's car and she puts on her songs and you wanna die cause you can't say anything.

Re: Chasing Some Mirage: The Boss Tourney-Tremx4/DcT

Posted: Tue May 23, 2017 3:37 pm
by evenslow
bada wrote:
evenslow wrote:
bada wrote:My appreciation for Bruce has definitely risen the last few years but I still don't have much use for the Tunnel of Love/Human Touch/Lucky Town run. I think it's more the adult contemporary production as much as the songs. I can happily skip those solo years though KD is right some of the outtakes from those albums are pretty good.
I would separate ToL from those other two but I take your point about the production.
One Step Up is a prefect example of a song I like but the production make me nauseous. It just feels like when your a kid and you're in your friends mom's car and she puts on her songs and you wanna die cause you can't say anything.
Yeah that stopped me for years of getting into ToL. Then I got older and identified with the themes more and just decided to look past the production. But I'll admit it's not easy on some of the songs.

Re: Chasing Some Mirage: The Boss Tourney-Tremx4/DcT

Posted: Tue May 23, 2017 3:45 pm
by guestT
I only just discovered ToL through this tourny. I agree that overall the songs are better on ToL than LT and HT. I don't mind the production on LT, though. Doesn't seem any more egregiously overproduced than Born in the USA or his post-Rising stuff.

I'll also go to the mat for the Live MTV Plugged album. Even Red Headed Woman.

Re: Chasing Some Mirage: The Boss Tourney-Tremx4/DcT

Posted: Tue May 23, 2017 3:55 pm
by epilogue
I'm finding a ton of stuff to love on all of his records. This has been a fun discovery experience.

Re: Chasing Some Mirage: The Boss Tourney-Tremx4/DcT

Posted: Tue May 23, 2017 3:58 pm
by bada
guestT wrote:Doesn't seem any more egregiously overproduced than Born in the USA
There was something that happened with pop album production around '86. Previous years had that 80's production feel but then it seemed to multiply by 2. I think you can hear the difference with most artists that had a albums out in say 83/84 compared to their 86/87 release.

Re: Chasing Some Mirage: The Boss Tourney-Tremx4/DcT

Posted: Tue May 23, 2017 4:07 pm
by LoathedVermin72
There's a handful of really good songs on Human Touch.

Re: Chasing Some Mirage: The Boss Tourney-Tremx4/DcT

Posted: Tue May 23, 2017 4:23 pm
by evenslow
LoathedVermin72 wrote:There's a handful of really good songs on Human Touch.
"Human Touch" itself is pretty damn good.

Re: Chasing Some Mirage: The Boss Tourney-Tremx4/DcT

Posted: Tue May 23, 2017 4:23 pm
by evenslow
bada wrote:
guestT wrote:Doesn't seem any more egregiously overproduced than Born in the USA
There was something that happened with pop album production around '86. Previous years had that 80's production feel but then it seemed to multiply by 2. I think you can hear the difference with most artists that had a albums out in say 83/84 compared to their 86/87 release.
Yeah the amount of reverb on the drums is almost immediately disqualifying to a lot of that era. So hard to listen to.

Re: Chasing Some Mirage: The Boss Tourney-Tremx4/DcT

Posted: Tue May 23, 2017 4:58 pm
by Kevin Davis
"Tunnel of Love" is an excellent album, not accurately grouped with "Human Touch" and "Lucky Town" at all. The production on "Tunnel of Love" is no more '80's-tinged than "Born in the USA," it just feels more conspicuous because it's essentially half-comprised of folk songs that feel like they should be completely sparse. But it is one of his most thematically realized albums, full of well-crafted tunes and sophisticated, emotionally honest writing. If Bruce has a "Blood on the Tracks," this is it.

Re: Chasing Some Mirage: The Boss Tourney-Tremx4/DcT

Posted: Tue May 23, 2017 5:01 pm
by evenslow
Kevin Davis wrote:"Tunnel of Love" is an excellent album, not accurately grouped with "Human Touch" and "Lucky Town" at all. The production on "Tunnel of Love" is no more '80's-tinged than "Born in the USA," it just feels more conspicuous because it's essentially half-comprised of folk songs that feel like they should be completely sparse. But it is one of his most thematically realized albums, full of well-crafted tunes and sophisticated, emotionally honest writing. If Bruce has a "Blood on the Tracks," this is it.
And even more impressive and ballsy coming off the world beating Born In the USA album and tour.