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Re: The all inclusive video game thread

Posted: Mon March 26, 2018 2:04 pm
by tree_
I must say, though, I love Bloodborne and think it is brilliant on many levels. I just started playing it again recently before realizing I can't handle its power... feels like a nightmare.

Re: The all inclusive video game thread

Posted: Mon March 26, 2018 2:06 pm
by mf
Monkey_Driven wrote:
tree_ wrote:
mf wrote:so you guys weren't kidding about Bloodborne being brutally hard. I played for a couple hours yesterday and died at least 30 times. That first werewolf that you encounter got me at least 10 times before i went online for help and learned that you're supposed to stay in that hunters dream area after you die the first time and collect some weapons :oops: . Even at that it still took me a few tries to kill that sumbitch.
If you're set on completing this game and not willing to keep trial-and-erroring, by which I mean you're gonna die a million times, I recommend you get some more advice from the internet on your play-through. I've actually never beaten this game.. I think I made it a little over half way through and checked out some youtube videos on what's to come and figured it just isn't worth the stress. I play games for fun these days.
I get that. I've never finished a Dark Souls game for this reason, but Bloodborne just clickes. MF, you don't have to kill every enemy. You can run from the smaller minions to get items and to get to the next lamp. What weapon did you choose?
i don't have a ton of time for gaming these days so i've got no problem using walkthroughs.

i chose the axe and the pistol. i'm still in one of the first sections Yharnham, with a mob and a big bonfire thing. I usually get killed when I try to attack anybody near the bonfire. My time yesterday was spent mostly just getting familiar with the controls and combat so i was ok with dying and repeating the same area over and over. But it's good to know that you can strategically avoid some enemies, i wasn't sure if you had to kill them all or not.

Re: The all inclusive video game thread

Posted: Mon March 26, 2018 2:08 pm
by tree_
You don't really have to strategically avoid them... you just flail your arms and run past nearly everyone if you know where you're going.

Re: The all inclusive video game thread

Posted: Mon March 26, 2018 2:38 pm
by Ello Sailor
I disagree with tree_. Spoiling too much of the Souls/Bloodborne games with walkthroughs will diminish the reward of beating them significantly. Most of the charm lies in the cryptic ridiculousness. That sounds like pedantic gatekeeping, but it's true.

Re: The all inclusive video game thread

Posted: Mon March 26, 2018 2:40 pm
by tree_
Ello Sailor wrote:I disagree with tree_. Spoiling too much of the Souls/Bloodborne games with walkthroughs will diminish the reward of beating them significantly. Most of the charm lies in the cryptic ridiculousness. That sounds like pedantic gatekeeping, but it's true.
I get that, Ello. I personally just can't handle the stress... so, if I ever decide to finish it, I will use assistance, and will surely not reap rewards on your scale.

Re: The all inclusive video game thread

Posted: Mon March 26, 2018 2:45 pm
by Monkey_Driven
Ello Sailor wrote:I disagree with tree_. Spoiling too much of the Souls/Bloodborne games with walkthroughs will diminish the reward of beating them significantly. Most of the charm lies in the cryptic ridiculousness. That sounds like pedantic gatekeeping, but it's true.
I agree. Only consult a walkthrough if you've really hit a wall. Discovering the various pathways/shortcuts and boss strategies organically is so incredibly rewarding.

Re: The all inclusive video game thread

Posted: Mon March 26, 2018 2:46 pm
by Ello Sailor
What do you mean by stress? Difficulty of boss battles, or dead ends and a reluctance to backtrack for the umpteenth time? Boss fights are just pattern recognition. They're fucking hard as hell but I don't see how the internet can help you with that, unless you used guides to find overpowered gear - which is weaksauce.

Re: The all inclusive video game thread

Posted: Mon March 26, 2018 2:51 pm
by Monkey_Driven
The atmosphere, fear of death right around the corner, and continued failure can lead to a lot of stress for some gamers.

Re: The all inclusive video game thread

Posted: Mon March 26, 2018 2:58 pm
by tree_
Ello Sailor wrote:What do you mean by stress? Difficulty of boss battles, or dead ends and a reluctance to backtrack for the umpteenth time? Boss fights are just pattern recognition. They're fucking hard as hell but I don't see how the internet can help you with that, unless you used guides to find overpowered gear - which is weaksauce.
The nightmare aesthetic is engrossing. It doesn't feel like a good time. I just want the sun to come out. Also, I take my time killing nearly every enemy so I can collect enough blood echoes to upgrade and make bosses less daunting and there's a constant fear of losing all my echoes before I can return to the dream... and you can't pause it... Yeah, boss battles are f'n hard. There are youtube videos describing the best strategies for beating them, which is the only help I ever sought. I looked ahead to the upcoming bosses and was like... no thanks. I'll play Splatoon 2.

Re: The all inclusive video game thread

Posted: Mon March 26, 2018 3:05 pm
by Monkey_Driven
I'm up to level 176. Yikes.

Re: The all inclusive video game thread

Posted: Mon March 26, 2018 11:54 pm
by Orpheus
I usually just watch horror games on youtube since there's no way I could actually sit through playing them. Bloodborne is really cool and I liked watching it but I know I would hate playing it.

Re: The all inclusive video game thread

Posted: Tue March 27, 2018 7:55 pm
by tragabigzanda
Far Cry 5 is installed on my system. Kotaku's review is...interesting:
https://kotaku.com/far-cry-5-the-kotaku ... 1824076892

I can definitely see the emotional disconnect between the subject matter and our real world causing some problems. But I think this could turn out to be a dark, weird, gonzo take on our culture, even if the NPCs have very short attention spans.

Anyway, I'll monkey around with it this evening to refresh my memory, then will be game to do some co-op this week if anyone's up for it.

Re: The all inclusive video game thread

Posted: Tue March 27, 2018 9:12 pm
by bune
I shouldn't be surprised at this point and yet people still find a way to do it.

Re: The all inclusive video game thread

Posted: Tue March 27, 2018 9:53 pm
by Monkey_Driven
tragabigzanda wrote:Far Cry 5 is installed on my system. Kotaku's review is...interesting:
https://kotaku.com/far-cry-5-the-kotaku ... 1824076892

I can definitely see the emotional disconnect between the subject matter and our real world causing some problems. But I think this could turn out to be a dark, weird, gonzo take on our culture, even if the NPCs have very short attention spans.

Anyway, I'll monkey around with it this evening to refresh my memory, then will be game to do some co-op this week if anyone's up for it.
I generally like Polygon, but their review also puts a ton of weight on the story. Who the hell buys Far Cry games for the story?

Re: The all inclusive video game thread

Posted: Tue March 27, 2018 10:13 pm
by tragabigzanda
Monkey_Driven wrote:
tragabigzanda wrote:Far Cry 5 is installed on my system. Kotaku's review is...interesting:
https://kotaku.com/far-cry-5-the-kotaku ... 1824076892

I can definitely see the emotional disconnect between the subject matter and our real world causing some problems. But I think this could turn out to be a dark, weird, gonzo take on our culture, even if the NPCs have very short attention spans.

Anyway, I'll monkey around with it this evening to refresh my memory, then will be game to do some co-op this week if anyone's up for it.
I generally like Polygon, but their review also puts a ton of weight on the story. Who the hell buys Far Cry games for the story?
You know, I really enjoyed Far Cry 4's story; it helped drive my longer quest for useless collectibles. The Kotaku review makes the good point that, when divorced from the foreign environments of past games and instead positioned in the US, the shallowness of the story really shows. We shall see...I'm gonna go boot it up in just a few mins.

Re: The all inclusive video game thread

Posted: Tue March 27, 2018 11:01 pm
by Monkey_Driven
tragabigzanda wrote:
Monkey_Driven wrote:
tragabigzanda wrote:Far Cry 5 is installed on my system. Kotaku's review is...interesting:
https://kotaku.com/far-cry-5-the-kotaku ... 1824076892

I can definitely see the emotional disconnect between the subject matter and our real world causing some problems. But I think this could turn out to be a dark, weird, gonzo take on our culture, even if the NPCs have very short attention spans.

Anyway, I'll monkey around with it this evening to refresh my memory, then will be game to do some co-op this week if anyone's up for it.
I generally like Polygon, but their review also puts a ton of weight on the story. Who the hell buys Far Cry games for the story?
You know, I really enjoyed Far Cry 4's story; it helped drive my longer quest for useless collectibles. The Kotaku review makes the good point that, when divorced from the foreign environments of past games and instead positioned in the US, the shallowness of the story really shows. We shall see...I'm gonna go boot it up in just a few mins.
I can't remember a single thing about the story from Far Cry 4 to be honest and I rarely skip cutscenes. I think storytelling in open world games has a long way to go in general. The more freedom you give a player the harder it is to tell a compelling story with good pacing and impactful decisions.

Re: The all inclusive video game thread

Posted: Tue March 27, 2018 11:57 pm
by BurtReynolds
LoathedVermin72 wrote:
BurtReynolds wrote:As much as I loved Farcry 2, I've hated every other game in the series.
Even Blood Dragon?!
Never played that one. I should.

Re: The all inclusive video game thread

Posted: Tue March 27, 2018 11:59 pm
by BurtReynolds
The characters were so cringy in 3 that I had to stop playing.

Re: The all inclusive video game thread

Posted: Wed March 28, 2018 12:29 am
by LoathedVermin72
There’s a good chance you’ll love Blood Dragon

Re: The all inclusive video game thread

Posted: Wed March 28, 2018 2:24 pm
by Monkey_Driven
Bloodborne's DLC is more difficult than I remember. Still very enjoyable.