Re: Election 2020
Posted: Mon September 14, 2020 5:28 pm
I think my father still has his Buchanan '96 sign.
Yes, my neighbor has a very old Susan Collins sign up year round and their Lepage sign hasn't come down since he left the governor's mansion.verb_to_trust wrote:One thing I was thinking about on the way home today was that signs in a big election year are something we all expect, but in 2020 and beyond when everything is a political circle jerk people are just going to have shit in their yards all year long every year.
I understand this idea of signage motivating the masses, and that makes some kind of sense I guess. What does really scare me in the US at the moment however is that I worry that people are beginning to take the "enemy next door" thing literally. How far away from actual suburban bloodshed are we here?McParadigm wrote:Presidential yard signs aren’t meant to sway undecideds, they’re meant to motivate other supporters in your community. To say “you’re not alone, and we can do this.” There’s plenty of research out there demonstrating that while yard signs for big elections don’t change minds, the presence of such community facing props in an area correlates to a greater share of a candidate’s supporters showing up on Election Day.Higgs wrote:I'm actually fully talking about generic "Trump" and "Biden" signs. I understand local candidate signage. At the end of the day those guys are the only ones who could actually do something that genuinely affected you personally.B wrote:Higgs wrote:Do you think that the signage actually sways voters though? I can see some people going with "majority rules" when seeing a ton of blue or red signs about the place.
I can't imagine it makes a difference in the Presidential election, but I'm certain people vote locally for people "they've heard of," and the reason they've heard of the candidate is because they read their name on 500 signs around town. I may have even been guilty of such intellectual laziness.
It could be that yard signs are just more likely to appear in communities where the candidate’s supporters are more motivated in general, and they’ve got this whole thing backwards. But growing up in South Dakota, seeing the occasional Democrat candidate sign was reassuring, because I didn’t really have any other evidence that anybody around me felt the way I did. And in such a divisive election, I think it’s good for people in this country to be reminded that the “enemy“ they face is often the nice couple right next-door.
Is the US the only Anglophone country that frowns on the "C" word? Canadians certainly can't enough of it. I think Jamaica uses an alternate term for similar effect.Rangi Guy wrote:Before anyone asks - over in the forgotten colonies, we tend to yell at each other over the fence for a bit, call the other person's partner a slut or something similar......usually turns into a brief round of fisty cuffs, then once exhausted and junk we realise that despite having some differing views that they're actually a decent cunt, and then the next weekend we're both in the back yard having a Tooheys shooting the shit
Pretty far. The closest you'll get to suburban bloodshed is Karen talking shit on facebook.Higgs wrote:I understand this idea of signage motivating the masses, and that makes some kind of sense I guess. What does really scare me in the US at the moment however is that I worry that people are beginning to take the "enemy next door" thing literally. How far away from actual suburban bloodshed are we here?McParadigm wrote:Presidential yard signs aren’t meant to sway undecideds, they’re meant to motivate other supporters in your community. To say “you’re not alone, and we can do this.” There’s plenty of research out there demonstrating that while yard signs for big elections don’t change minds, the presence of such community facing props in an area correlates to a greater share of a candidate’s supporters showing up on Election Day.Higgs wrote:I'm actually fully talking about generic "Trump" and "Biden" signs. I understand local candidate signage. At the end of the day those guys are the only ones who could actually do something that genuinely affected you personally.B wrote:Higgs wrote:Do you think that the signage actually sways voters though? I can see some people going with "majority rules" when seeing a ton of blue or red signs about the place.
I can't imagine it makes a difference in the Presidential election, but I'm certain people vote locally for people "they've heard of," and the reason they've heard of the candidate is because they read their name on 500 signs around town. I may have even been guilty of such intellectual laziness.
It could be that yard signs are just more likely to appear in communities where the candidate’s supporters are more motivated in general, and they’ve got this whole thing backwards. But growing up in South Dakota, seeing the occasional Democrat candidate sign was reassuring, because I didn’t really have any other evidence that anybody around me felt the way I did. And in such a divisive election, I think it’s good for people in this country to be reminded that the “enemy“ they face is often the nice couple right next-door.
A couple reasons to believe:Higgs wrote:Hope you're right verb.
And I know you're right Rangi.
Why would violence trends in 2019 be predictive of election-related violence?Bi_3 wrote:There was a study in 2019 that narrowed it down the city block level.
States with the most violent crime per capita: Alaska, New Mexico, Tennessee, Arkansas, Nevada.The issue is that crime is prevalent where media is created (LA, NYC, etc.) so perception is distorted
People in cities famously have nothing to lose.the suburbs have “something to lose” so conflict avoidance is high
I don’t have much opinion on suburbs, other than that when I lived in them and my neighbors wanted to engage a political cause or get mad-slash-march about something, they drove into the city to do it. Who’s gonna see you in the burbs, except your neighbors?Higgs wrote:I understand this idea of signage motivating the masses, and that makes some kind of sense I guess. What does really scare me in the US at the moment however is that I worry that people are beginning to take the "enemy next door" thing literally. How far away from actual suburban bloodshed are we here?
You should really try buying into the doomer narrative. It's super helpful and based on predictive retweets.Chris_H_2 wrote:i live in the suburbs, and i'm just worried about what trump says and how biden is going to destroy them. i'm not so much worried about my neighbors setting fires and shooting in between sets of platform tennis and trips to whole foods.
Haha, holy shit.macphisto wrote:
No way he played NWA. Lol.Birds in Hell wrote:Haha, holy shit.macphisto wrote: