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Re: HBO: Game of Thrones (Song of Ice and Fire)

Posted: Mon August 21, 2017 2:40 am
by Norah
Viserion the Wight Dragon

Re: HBO: Game of Thrones (Song of Ice and Fire)

Posted: Mon August 21, 2017 2:45 am
by Simple Torture
I've got more thoughts on this, but I'm on board with this take (i.e. that the show has morphed into conventional fantasy instead of subverting the genre): https://www.theringer.com/game-of-thron ... d-the-wall

Re: HBO: Game of Thrones (Song of Ice and Fire)

Posted: Mon August 21, 2017 2:49 am
by Bi_3
Simple Torture wrote:I've got more thoughts on this, but I'm on board with this take (i.e. that the show has morphed into conventional fantasy instead of subverting the genre): https://www.theringer.com/game-of-thron ... d-the-wall

Yeah, my wife and I have been joking about the weird representation of time and distance this season. Bran spent "years" north of the wall? Huh?

Re: HBO: Game of Thrones (Song of Ice and Fire)

Posted: Mon August 21, 2017 2:50 am
by BurtReynolds
The show feels very different this season.

Re: HBO: Game of Thrones (Song of Ice and Fire)

Posted: Mon August 21, 2017 2:53 am
by Bi_3
BurtReynolds wrote:The show feels very different this season.
It feels rushed, but I loved this one. Funny and suspenseful despite Jon constantly being saved by someone else.

Re: HBO: Game of Thrones (Song of Ice and Fire)

Posted: Mon August 21, 2017 2:55 am
by spike
That old colosseum looks like a great spot for Clegane Bowl.

Re: HBO: Game of Thrones (Song of Ice and Fire)

Posted: Mon August 21, 2017 2:55 am
by stip
i liked the episode (though it is not a favorite) but it did require some suspension of disbelief

Re: HBO: Game of Thrones (Song of Ice and Fire)

Posted: Mon August 21, 2017 3:00 am
by BurtReynolds
Surely some big swerve is coming soon, right? The last season can't just be a long slog of a battle with ice zombies.

Re: HBO: Game of Thrones (Song of Ice and Fire)

Posted: Mon August 21, 2017 3:01 am
by malice
Simple Torture wrote:I've got more thoughts on this, but I'm on board with this take (i.e. that the show has morphed into conventional fantasy instead of subverting the genre): https://www.theringer.com/game-of-thron ... d-the-wall
this article makes a good point about crossing into straight up fantasyland this episode, and by sacrificing the depth of storytelling that's been so great throughout the series.

they should have just done two full seasons, this is pissing me off now

Re: HBO: Game of Thrones (Song of Ice and Fire)

Posted: Mon August 21, 2017 3:14 am
by Norah
Read the books. The story doesn't suck there.

Re: HBO: Game of Thrones (Song of Ice and Fire)

Posted: Mon August 21, 2017 3:48 am
by Mecca
cutuphalfdead wrote:Read the books. The story doesn't suck there.
some of it does

Re: HBO: Game of Thrones (Song of Ice and Fire)

Posted: Mon August 21, 2017 4:03 am
by Norah
Mecca wrote:
cutuphalfdead wrote:Read the books. The story doesn't suck there.
some of it does
no it's all pretty good

Re: HBO: Game of Thrones (Song of Ice and Fire)

Posted: Mon August 21, 2017 5:20 am
by Monkey_Driven
This was...something. Once you accept how completely stupid the ranging party north was you can enjoy the lake fight. I thought that was good. The Winterfell stuff was awful. Are there more than like five White Walkers?

Re: HBO: Game of Thrones (Song of Ice and Fire)

Posted: Mon August 21, 2017 5:44 am
by tragabigzanda
Steve Albini wrote:Whenever there's active promotion on the part of somebody else, whenever I see somebody all dolled up for a fancy photograph and someone's handing out flyers or whenever there's active promotion for something like that, as an imposition on my day, I hate all those people and I want them to fail. I have a visceral reaction to advertising and promotion. There's just something about salesmanship that grates on me on a very base level and I react very negatively towards it. I want those people to suffer and I want their enterprises to fail.

Re: HBO: Game of Thrones (Song of Ice and Fire)

Posted: Mon August 21, 2017 9:08 am
by ABNorman
tragabigzanda wrote:
BurtReynolds wrote:Surely some big swerve is coming soon, right? The last season can't just be a long slog of a battle with ice zombies.
Seriously. One episode to reveal the ice dragon in combat, another for Dany & Jon to equip Cersei's dragon gun with a dragonglass spear, one episode to shoot it. What else is there? Three or four more episodes of Littlefinger doing his twirly moustache routine?
A few episodes from the "dragon breathes fire at the Night King, but he doesn't die!" moment and the subsequent "ring to Mount Doom" storyline.

Re: HBO: Game of Thrones (Song of Ice and Fire)

Posted: Mon August 21, 2017 10:27 am
by Bi_3
ABNorman wrote:
tragabigzanda wrote:
BurtReynolds wrote:Surely some big swerve is coming soon, right? The last season can't just be a long slog of a battle with ice zombies.
Seriously. One episode to reveal the ice dragon in combat, another for Dany & Jon to equip Cersei's dragon gun with a dragonglass spear, one episode to shoot it. What else is there? Three or four more episodes of Littlefinger doing his twirly moustache routine?
A few episodes from the "dragon breathes fire at the Night King, but he doesn't die!" moment and the subsequent "ring to Mount Doom" storyline.
Have only read the first 4 books, so sorry if these guesses are what happens:

Rescue Yara / Redeem Theon
Kill Gendry, Jamie, Tyrion , hound and mountain, etc.
Euron kills Dany? (Drowned God rises up Prophecy)
Arya disguises herself as Sansa to kill Cersie
The destruction of kings landing (like dany saw in her vision)


The complaints are fair, but given the rather extreme limit to the remaining episodes, the subtleties have to go.

Re: HBO: Game of Thrones (Song of Ice and Fire)

Posted: Mon August 21, 2017 10:49 am
by stip
Mecca wrote:
cutuphalfdead wrote:Read the books. The story doesn't suck there.
some of it does
the last two books were a steep drop off in quality from the first three

Re: HBO: Game of Thrones (Song of Ice and Fire)

Posted: Mon August 21, 2017 10:54 am
by BurtReynolds
The last two were mostly awful.

Re: HBO: Game of Thrones (Song of Ice and Fire)

Posted: Mon August 21, 2017 10:57 am
by malice
BurtReynolds wrote:The last two were mostly awful.
Ok, so the series actually IS following the books. great

Re: HBO: Game of Thrones (Song of Ice and Fire)

Posted: Mon August 21, 2017 11:32 am
by tragabigzanda
Steve Albini wrote:Whenever there's active promotion on the part of somebody else, whenever I see somebody all dolled up for a fancy photograph and someone's handing out flyers or whenever there's active promotion for something like that, as an imposition on my day, I hate all those people and I want them to fail. I have a visceral reaction to advertising and promotion. There's just something about salesmanship that grates on me on a very base level and I react very negatively towards it. I want those people to suffer and I want their enterprises to fail.