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Re: Election 2024

Posted: Wed January 24, 2024 3:03 am
by tragabigzanda
FUCK ICE

Re: Election 2024

Posted: Wed January 24, 2024 3:09 am
by 96583UP
yeah media was acting like he's blowing her out but she's got 85K votes so far vs. his 101K ... and she beat him in concord 51% to 44% ... so curious to see what happens in a more populous state, with a larger urban center, bc he does not seem to be a sure-thing

<inhales more hopium>

Re: Election 2024

Posted: Wed January 24, 2024 5:24 am
by Bammer
Let’s imagine the name Haley is on your ballot in November.

The other name can’t be Biden, can it?

She’s half his age. She will crush him. Dems have to put up someone younger in that situation. Right? Michelle Obama lol.

Re: Election 2024

Posted: Wed January 24, 2024 6:06 am
by Anders
Think she did fairly well, but a lot of Republicans are saying that she must pull out now.

Re: Election 2024

Posted: Wed January 24, 2024 6:53 am
by Happy Trees
Vitalogist wrote:I get the military people and fascists supporting Trump, but I don’t get the Christians supporting him. Or, at least, I don’t see how a person could believe Trump is a Christian. You’d have to be an idiot. Or maybe it’s all about abortion. That’s probably it.
People groomed with cult-like tactics to support a dominant money and influence machine while believing they are all victims, supporting a politician who uses cult leader tactics to obtain money, influence and domination while claiming he and his followers are victims, regardless of his obvious lack of transparency and total inability to tell the truth. It's not hard to believe at all.
B wrote:Why would military support Trump? He's actively adversarial to veterans.
As I've said before, my own personal experience is that they are either completely unaware of it because they are in such a bubble (oh really, when did he say that?), or they have some typical delusional excuse for it being entirely irrelevant (he's just trolling dems, he didn't really say that, it's fake news, etc...).
spike wrote:Trump just claimed he won NH in both of the last two general elections. He did not.
Of course he did. If he says it, it's automatically true.

Re: Election 2024

Posted: Wed January 24, 2024 10:48 am
by B
It's still going to be a long time before the Republicans let a woman run their party.

Re: Election 2024

Posted: Wed January 24, 2024 12:19 pm
by Bi_3
B wrote:
Bi_3 wrote:He hits it on the nose.
Trump voters think Trump is listening to them, but it's Dems that are delusional.
You see an opportunity to shame and other, I see a chance to unite so the big stuff can get done.

Re: Election 2024

Posted: Wed January 24, 2024 12:36 pm
by tommy
Bi_3 wrote:
B wrote:
Bi_3 wrote:He hits it on the nose.
Trump voters think Trump is listening to them, but it's Dems that are delusional.
You see an opportunity to shame and other, I see a chance to unite so the big stuff can get done.

lol good luck with that

Re: Election 2024

Posted: Wed January 24, 2024 12:39 pm
by Peeps
B wrote:It's still going to be a long time before the Republicans let a woman ruin their party.

Re: Election 2024

Posted: Wed January 24, 2024 12:47 pm
by B
Bi_3 wrote:
B wrote:
Bi_3 wrote:He hits it on the nose.
Trump voters think Trump is listening to them, but it's Dems that are delusional.
You see an opportunity to shame and other, I see a chance to unite so the big stuff can get done.
By shaming different people than I did?

Re: Election 2024

Posted: Wed January 24, 2024 1:39 pm
by Bammer
B wrote:It's still going to be a long time before the Republicans let a woman run their party.
I won’t argue this. But just imagine it’s Haley.

Who is on the other side of that ballot?

Re: Election 2024

Posted: Wed January 24, 2024 1:46 pm
by McParadigm
Bammer wrote:
B wrote:It's still going to be a long time before the Republicans let a woman run their party.
I won’t argue this. But just imagine it’s Haley.

Who is on the other side of that ballot?
If you’re suggesting that she would beat Joe Biden under conditions where she had full Republican support, I think that’s almost a foregone conclusion.

Not choosing that route is one of many ways the Republican Party is needlessly self-immolating…and an example of how the party’s external grief-targeting and absolute rejection of self-reflection is destructive to its cause. If everything is always someone else’s fault, then you learn no lessons.

Re: Election 2024

Posted: Wed January 24, 2024 2:11 pm
by tragabigzanda
FUCK ICE

Re: Election 2024

Posted: Wed January 24, 2024 2:25 pm
by B
Bammer wrote:
B wrote:It's still going to be a long time before the Republicans let a woman run their party.
I won’t argue this. But just imagine it’s Haley.

Who is on the other side of that ballot?
While I am playing dress up, can I imagine that she has even one policy proposal that isn't the farthest right iteration of that proposal possible?

What's the question? Will she beat Joe Biden? Maybe. She probably has a better chance than Trump. But the only difference between her and Trump is her age and that she's raped a couple less people.

Re: Election 2024

Posted: Wed January 24, 2024 2:48 pm
by Bammer
B wrote:
Bammer wrote:
B wrote:It's still going to be a long time before the Republicans let a woman run their party.
I won’t argue this. But just imagine it’s Haley.

Who is on the other side of that ballot?
While I am playing dress up, can I imagine that she has even one policy proposal that isn't the farthest right iteration of that proposal possible?

What's the question? Will she beat Joe Biden? Maybe. She probably has a better chance than Trump. But the only difference between her and Trump is her age and that she's raped a couple less people.
Basically I’m asking will the dems put biden up against someone half his age, or does he walk away in favor of a younger dem candidate

Re: Election 2024

Posted: Wed January 24, 2024 3:07 pm
by spike
Bammer wrote:
B wrote:
Bammer wrote:
B wrote:It's still going to be a long time before the Republicans let a woman run their party.
I won’t argue this. But just imagine it’s Haley.

Who is on the other side of that ballot?
While I am playing dress up, can I imagine that she has even one policy proposal that isn't the farthest right iteration of that proposal possible?

What's the question? Will she beat Joe Biden? Maybe. She probably has a better chance than Trump. But the only difference between her and Trump is her age and that she's raped a couple less people.
Basically I’m asking will the dems put biden up against someone half his age, or does he walk away in favor of a younger dem candidate
It’s clear Dems see the incumbent president as their best candidate. Little late in the game now too.

Re: Election 2024

Posted: Wed January 24, 2024 3:12 pm
by BurtReynolds
B wrote:
Bi_3 wrote:He hits it on the nose.
Trump voters think Trump is listening to them, but it's Dems that are delusional.
Both are delusional, for different reasons.

Re: Election 2024

Posted: Wed January 24, 2024 3:49 pm
by Captain Termite
Bammer wrote:
B wrote:
Bammer wrote:
B wrote:It's still going to be a long time before the Republicans let a woman run their party.
I won’t argue this. But just imagine it’s Haley.

Who is on the other side of that ballot?
While I am playing dress up, can I imagine that she has even one policy proposal that isn't the farthest right iteration of that proposal possible?

What's the question? Will she beat Joe Biden? Maybe. She probably has a better chance than Trump. But the only difference between her and Trump is her age and that she's raped a couple less people.
Basically I’m asking will the dems put biden up against someone half his age, or does he walk away in favor of a younger dem candidate
He does not walk away if Haley is nominated.

Re: Election 2024

Posted: Wed January 24, 2024 3:52 pm
by McParadigm
tragabigzanda wrote:
McParadigm wrote:
Bammer wrote:
B wrote:It's still going to be a long time before the Republicans let a woman run their party.
I won’t argue this. But just imagine it’s Haley.

Who is on the other side of that ballot?
If you’re suggesting that she would beat Joe Biden under conditions where she had full Republican support, I think that’s almost a foregone conclusion.

Not choosing that route is one of many ways the Republican Party is needlessly self-immolating…and an example of how the party’s external grief-targeting and absolute rejection of self-reflection is destructive to its cause. If everything is always someone else’s fault, then you learn no lessons.
Can’t decide between “same could be said about the Dems” and “bring back Dave a”
I mean, the same could be said about centrists, too. To some degree that’s a very human reaction to things. Everyone experiences some amount of that impulse. But neither the centrists nor the Democrats have let it talk them into rejecting a presidential candidate who would be a near-guaranteed win for one who tells them what they want to hear.

Re: Election 2024

Posted: Wed January 24, 2024 4:03 pm
by tragabigzanda
FUCK ICE