Re: Election 2024
Posted: Wed January 24, 2024 3:03 am
FUCK ICE
People groomed with cult-like tactics to support a dominant money and influence machine while believing they are all victims, supporting a politician who uses cult leader tactics to obtain money, influence and domination while claiming he and his followers are victims, regardless of his obvious lack of transparency and total inability to tell the truth. It's not hard to believe at all.Vitalogist wrote:I get the military people and fascists supporting Trump, but I don’t get the Christians supporting him. Or, at least, I don’t see how a person could believe Trump is a Christian. You’d have to be an idiot. Or maybe it’s all about abortion. That’s probably it.
As I've said before, my own personal experience is that they are either completely unaware of it because they are in such a bubble (oh really, when did he say that?), or they have some typical delusional excuse for it being entirely irrelevant (he's just trolling dems, he didn't really say that, it's fake news, etc...).B wrote:Why would military support Trump? He's actively adversarial to veterans.
Of course he did. If he says it, it's automatically true.spike wrote:Trump just claimed he won NH in both of the last two general elections. He did not.
You see an opportunity to shame and other, I see a chance to unite so the big stuff can get done.B wrote:Trump voters think Trump is listening to them, but it's Dems that are delusional.Bi_3 wrote:He hits it on the nose.
Bi_3 wrote:You see an opportunity to shame and other, I see a chance to unite so the big stuff can get done.B wrote:Trump voters think Trump is listening to them, but it's Dems that are delusional.Bi_3 wrote:He hits it on the nose.
B wrote:It's still going to be a long time before the Republicans let a woman ruin their party.
By shaming different people than I did?Bi_3 wrote:You see an opportunity to shame and other, I see a chance to unite so the big stuff can get done.B wrote:Trump voters think Trump is listening to them, but it's Dems that are delusional.Bi_3 wrote:He hits it on the nose.
I won’t argue this. But just imagine it’s Haley.B wrote:It's still going to be a long time before the Republicans let a woman run their party.
If you’re suggesting that she would beat Joe Biden under conditions where she had full Republican support, I think that’s almost a foregone conclusion.Bammer wrote:I won’t argue this. But just imagine it’s Haley.B wrote:It's still going to be a long time before the Republicans let a woman run their party.
Who is on the other side of that ballot?
While I am playing dress up, can I imagine that she has even one policy proposal that isn't the farthest right iteration of that proposal possible?Bammer wrote:I won’t argue this. But just imagine it’s Haley.B wrote:It's still going to be a long time before the Republicans let a woman run their party.
Who is on the other side of that ballot?
Basically I’m asking will the dems put biden up against someone half his age, or does he walk away in favor of a younger dem candidateB wrote:While I am playing dress up, can I imagine that she has even one policy proposal that isn't the farthest right iteration of that proposal possible?Bammer wrote:I won’t argue this. But just imagine it’s Haley.B wrote:It's still going to be a long time before the Republicans let a woman run their party.
Who is on the other side of that ballot?
What's the question? Will she beat Joe Biden? Maybe. She probably has a better chance than Trump. But the only difference between her and Trump is her age and that she's raped a couple less people.
It’s clear Dems see the incumbent president as their best candidate. Little late in the game now too.Bammer wrote:Basically I’m asking will the dems put biden up against someone half his age, or does he walk away in favor of a younger dem candidateB wrote:While I am playing dress up, can I imagine that she has even one policy proposal that isn't the farthest right iteration of that proposal possible?Bammer wrote:I won’t argue this. But just imagine it’s Haley.B wrote:It's still going to be a long time before the Republicans let a woman run their party.
Who is on the other side of that ballot?
What's the question? Will she beat Joe Biden? Maybe. She probably has a better chance than Trump. But the only difference between her and Trump is her age and that she's raped a couple less people.
Both are delusional, for different reasons.B wrote:Trump voters think Trump is listening to them, but it's Dems that are delusional.Bi_3 wrote:He hits it on the nose.
He does not walk away if Haley is nominated.Bammer wrote:Basically I’m asking will the dems put biden up against someone half his age, or does he walk away in favor of a younger dem candidateB wrote:While I am playing dress up, can I imagine that she has even one policy proposal that isn't the farthest right iteration of that proposal possible?Bammer wrote:I won’t argue this. But just imagine it’s Haley.B wrote:It's still going to be a long time before the Republicans let a woman run their party.
Who is on the other side of that ballot?
What's the question? Will she beat Joe Biden? Maybe. She probably has a better chance than Trump. But the only difference between her and Trump is her age and that she's raped a couple less people.
I mean, the same could be said about centrists, too. To some degree that’s a very human reaction to things. Everyone experiences some amount of that impulse. But neither the centrists nor the Democrats have let it talk them into rejecting a presidential candidate who would be a near-guaranteed win for one who tells them what they want to hear.tragabigzanda wrote:Can’t decide between “same could be said about the Dems” and “bring back Dave a”McParadigm wrote:If you’re suggesting that she would beat Joe Biden under conditions where she had full Republican support, I think that’s almost a foregone conclusion.Bammer wrote:I won’t argue this. But just imagine it’s Haley.B wrote:It's still going to be a long time before the Republicans let a woman run their party.
Who is on the other side of that ballot?
Not choosing that route is one of many ways the Republican Party is needlessly self-immolating…and an example of how the party’s external grief-targeting and absolute rejection of self-reflection is destructive to its cause. If everything is always someone else’s fault, then you learn no lessons.