Re: Movie: Dune (2021) (It’s alright; you should bother)
Posted: Wed March 06, 2024 6:03 pm
Seeing Dune 2 in less that two hours... finally!
Hello? Madame Web?Anders wrote:This movie seems to be all over TikTok. The actors doing interviews or bits, or fans reviewing it. Can't remember that for any other movie.
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It's only been out for five days!epilogue wrote:Seeing Dune 2 in less that two hours... finally!
maybe you never opened it till now?Anders wrote:Didn’t notice it on my tiktok feed back then.
I'm just excited that I might see it next week. Still disappointed about missing the first one in the theatre (I had an infant at the time).Ello Sailor wrote:Honestly, I get where Joe is coming from. I had to wait four days, and that was long enough!
I watch a fee videos every day for the laughs.VinylGuy wrote:maybe you never opened it till now?Anders wrote:Didn’t notice it on my tiktok feed back then.
Got a light?epilogue wrote:I'll just say that I liked Dune 2, but by far and away the best thing about it is the David Lynch reference. Unreal.
I thought the best thing was how the Bene Gesserit were all:epilogue wrote:I'll just say that I liked Dune 2, but by far and away the best thing about it is the David Lynch reference. Unreal.
3, 4, and 5 all hit with me as well. Would have loved even just a scene with Hawat. And the Sting casting in the original movie was classic for Feyd, he fit the role. As far as the Alia stuff, I read an in depth interview somewhere with Villenueve where he essentially was "saving' some stuff for the 3rd movie as it may be more difficult to write. I know he is working on the script now, but he anticipates that part of it to take 3 years or more. I have faith he'll level it all out in the end, but that was definitely a big change from the books.Ensign9 wrote:I'm trying to fit in a third viewing this weekend.
Things I find myself taking minor issue with across both movies (some mild book spoilers):
1. Chani not being in on Paul's strategy (e.g. marrying Irulan) as she was in the book. At its most reductive, a case could be made Villeneuve made her character the stereotypical nag to our "hero." (Although I acknowledge she is likely to be the hero of Part 3.)
2. Alia not being born and not being the one who kills the Baron. There is a significant time jump in the books while Paul learns to become Fremen and get closer to Chani and 3-year old Alia (with a fully adult consciousness) plays a significant role in the final part of the book.
3. In both movies, I don't think the passage of time is handled well. In Part 1, it feels like the Harkonnens show back up the next day to take it back. In the book, the Atreides get better established and there's some good stuff that falls under the "palace intrigue" category, not the least of which is the Fenrings, which brings me to:
4. Cutting the Hasimir Fenring and Thufir Hawat scenes. Seeing what's become of Hawat would've been a nice touchstone to the first movie and what the Atreides have lost. And seeing Hasimir would've just been fun. Similarly, they cut out a key scene with Yueh in Part 1 that betters explains his internal conflict.
5. Making the Harkonnens bald, semi-buffoonish psychos. The aesthetic is great, no question, and it works in the Villeneuve version of Dune. That said, with Feyd, at least, using his book appearance as a mirror of Paul (handsome, cunning, eloquent, full head of hair) would have been pretty exciting. Even had they kept the rest of the Harkonnens as bald, colorless nutjobs, having Austin Butler appear essentially as himself would've had more of an impact when you realize he is an absolute psycho.
6. I'm not sure if I liked Walken as the emperor or not. There isn't a ton to judge him on. When we first see him just staring into space while Irulan makes moves on the chess board, I think you're supposed to infer he's wrestling with the weight of what he's done. With Walken, you could infer that or that he's singing the Meow Mix jingle in his head.
I like it... About 5 though... I don't mind their appearance one bit, Feyd felt like a genuine menace from start to end.E.H. Ruddock wrote:3, 4, and 5 all hit with me as well. Would have loved even just a scene with Hawat. And the Sting casting in the original movie was classic for Feyd, he fit the role. As far as the Alia stuff, I read an in depth interview somewhere with Villenueve where he essentially was "saving' some stuff for the 3rd movie as it may be more difficult to write. I know he is working on the script now, but he anticipates that part of it to take 3 years or more. I have faith he'll level it all out in the end, but that was definitely a big change from the books.Ensign9 wrote:I'm trying to fit in a third viewing this weekend.
Things I find myself taking minor issue with across both movies (some mild book spoilers):
1. Chani not being in on Paul's strategy (e.g. marrying Irulan) as she was in the book. At its most reductive, a case could be made Villeneuve made her character the stereotypical nag to our "hero." (Although I acknowledge she is likely to be the hero of Part 3.)
2. Alia not being born and not being the one who kills the Baron. There is a significant time jump in the books while Paul learns to become Fremen and get closer to Chani and 3-year old Alia (with a fully adult consciousness) plays a significant role in the final part of the book.
3. In both movies, I don't think the passage of time is handled well. In Part 1, it feels like the Harkonnens show back up the next day to take it back. In the book, the Atreides get better established and there's some good stuff that falls under the "palace intrigue" category, not the least of which is the Fenrings, which brings me to:
4. Cutting the Hasimir Fenring and Thufir Hawat scenes. Seeing what's become of Hawat would've been a nice touchstone to the first movie and what the Atreides have lost. And seeing Hasimir would've just been fun. Similarly, they cut out a key scene with Yueh in Part 1 that betters explains his internal conflict.
5. Making the Harkonnens bald, semi-buffoonish psychos. The aesthetic is great, no question, and it works in the Villeneuve version of Dune. That said, with Feyd, at least, using his book appearance as a mirror of Paul (handsome, cunning, eloquent, full head of hair) would have been pretty exciting. Even had they kept the rest of the Harkonnens as bald, colorless nutjobs, having Austin Butler appear essentially as himself would've had more of an impact when you realize he is an absolute psycho.
6. I'm not sure if I liked Walken as the emperor or not. There isn't a ton to judge him on. When we first see him just staring into space while Irulan makes moves on the chess board, I think you're supposed to infer he's wrestling with the weight of what he's done. With Walken, you could infer that or that he's singing the Meow Mix jingle in his head.