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Re: The 45th POTUS - Donald J. Trump

Posted: Mon January 16, 2017 8:33 pm
by BurtReynolds
I bottom paged myself and demand reparations.

Re: The 45th POTUS - Donald J. Trump

Posted: Mon January 16, 2017 9:03 pm
by dimejinky99
BurtReynolds wrote:
dimejinky99 wrote:'NATO is obsolete' says trump. He's not even pretending he's not putins puppet.

http://www.npr.org/sections/thetwo-way/ ... t=20170116
It is obsolete and probably shouldn't have outlasted the Cold War.

BurtReynolds wrote:
The US has 800 military bases in 70 countries. Russia has about 12.

There are 28 member states of NATO, an alliance purpose built for war with Russia. 5 of them border Russia. Explain to me again why NATO continued to exist after the Cold War?

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But then again European reliance on US military makes them more controllable, so we wouldn't want them to have to develop their own militaries.

Pointless give no the next war will start and finish in less than an hour. And there will be nobody left to talk about it

Re: The 45th POTUS - Donald J. Trump

Posted: Mon January 16, 2017 9:11 pm
by dimejinky99

Re: The 45th POTUS - Donald J. Trump

Posted: Mon January 16, 2017 9:16 pm
by BurtReynolds
dimejinky99 wrote:
BurtReynolds wrote:
dimejinky99 wrote:'NATO is obsolete' says trump. He's not even pretending he's not putins puppet.

http://www.npr.org/sections/thetwo-way/ ... t=20170116
It is obsolete and probably shouldn't have outlasted the Cold War.

BurtReynolds wrote:
The US has 800 military bases in 70 countries. Russia has about 12.

There are 28 member states of NATO, an alliance purpose built for war with Russia. 5 of them border Russia. Explain to me again why NATO continued to exist after the Cold War?

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But then again European reliance on US military makes them more controllable, so we wouldn't want them to have to develop their own militaries.

Pointless give no the next war will start and finish in less than an hour. And there will be nobody left to talk about it
I'm not clear on what you said there, but If you don't want war with Russia, you should probably be more concerned with the administration currently moving troops into Eastern Europe and throwing Russian diplomats out of the country. AKA, The NOT Trump Administration.

Re: The 45th POTUS - Donald J. Trump

Posted: Mon January 16, 2017 9:20 pm
by dimejinky99
BurtReynolds wrote:
dimejinky99 wrote:
BurtReynolds wrote:
dimejinky99 wrote:'NATO is obsolete' says trump. He's not even pretending he's not putins puppet.

http://www.npr.org/sections/thetwo-way/ ... t=20170116
It is obsolete and probably shouldn't have outlasted the Cold War.

BurtReynolds wrote:
The US has 800 military bases in 70 countries. Russia has about 12.

There are 28 member states of NATO, an alliance purpose built for war with Russia. 5 of them border Russia. Explain to me again why NATO continued to exist after the Cold War?

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But then again European reliance on US military makes them more controllable, so we wouldn't want them to have to develop their own militaries.

Pointless give no the next war will start and finish in less than an hour. And there will be nobody left to talk about it
I'm not clear on what you said there, but If you don't want war with Russia, you should probably be more concerned with the administration currently moving troops into Eastern Europe and throwing Russian diplomats out of the country. AKA, The NOT Trump Administration.

I meant the next war will be nuclear. Ground troop movements are just a prelude to it. And will have no bearing on the final outcome. We're all fucked. It's all over bar the shouting.

Re: The 45th POTUS - Donald J. Trump

Posted: Mon January 16, 2017 9:27 pm
by BurtReynolds
dimejinky99 wrote:
BurtReynolds wrote:
dimejinky99 wrote:
BurtReynolds wrote:
dimejinky99 wrote:'NATO is obsolete' says trump. He's not even pretending he's not putins puppet.

http://www.npr.org/sections/thetwo-way/ ... t=20170116
It is obsolete and probably shouldn't have outlasted the Cold War.

BurtReynolds wrote:
The US has 800 military bases in 70 countries. Russia has about 12.

There are 28 member states of NATO, an alliance purpose built for war with Russia. 5 of them border Russia. Explain to me again why NATO continued to exist after the Cold War?

Image
But then again European reliance on US military makes them more controllable, so we wouldn't want them to have to develop their own militaries.

Pointless give no the next war will start and finish in less than an hour. And there will be nobody left to talk about it
I'm not clear on what you said there, but If you don't want war with Russia, you should probably be more concerned with the administration currently moving troops into Eastern Europe and throwing Russian diplomats out of the country. AKA, The NOT Trump Administration.

I meant the next war will be nuclear. Ground troop movements are just a prelude to it. And will have no bearing on the final outcome. We're all fucked. It's all over bar the shouting.
Maybe, but NATO encroachment on Russia's borders and the Western establishment's aggression makes nuclear war more likely, not less. None of that has anything to do with Trump.

Of course, Trump could always start WW3 because Alec Baldwin made fun of him on SNL, so there really isn't a winning scenario here.

Re: The 45th POTUS - Donald J. Trump

Posted: Mon January 16, 2017 9:39 pm
by Jorge
http://deadstate.org/i-no-longer-have-t ... ital-area/
In December of 2016, Keyserling engaged in a “political argument” with a woman and allegedly declared, “I love this new world. I no longer have to be politically correct.” As the woman turned to walk away, Keyserling reportedly reach from behind and placed his hand between her legs and pinched on or near her genital area.
This story seems too crazy not to be made up by Trump's opposition, but
After reviewing a surveillance video of the incident, police determined that its contents were consistent with the woman’s claims.

Re: The 45th POTUS - Donald J. Trump

Posted: Mon January 16, 2017 9:41 pm
by dimejinky99
I posted a video about this very thing (Russia has a right to be afraid and defend itself. The west is planting forces in its borders) and I got shouted down for it. There is a lack of let's see the other side. If Russia started planting troops and bases in Canada and Mexico we know immediately it would be all out war. I don't believe the Russians are the aggressors here at all. And they are being provoked. Even with a level headed intelligent leader in putins place,it would be provocation.

But it's putin. So it's a matter of time until it boils over unless trump truly is his ball boy and withdraws US military from NATO and Europe. That doesn't mean there won't be war. It just means the US either will refuse to get involved or side with Russia.

By the way. No European country is defenceless. US taking part is overrated. UK/Germany/France are all armed to the teeth.

Re: The 45th POTUS - Donald J. Trump

Posted: Mon January 16, 2017 9:55 pm
by BurtReynolds
Don't worry. In a few short days, we'll have the magical return of...

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Re: The 45th POTUS - Donald J. Trump

Posted: Mon January 16, 2017 10:08 pm
by Jorge
Bruce Springsteen Cover Band Drops Out of Trump Inauguration Party

http://www.rollingstone.com/music/news/ ... ty-w461203

Re: The 45th POTUS - Donald J. Trump

Posted: Mon January 16, 2017 10:11 pm
by dimejinky99
theplatypus wrote:Bruce Springsteen Cover Band Drops Out of Trump Inauguration Party

http://www.rollingstone.com/music/news/ ... ty-w461203

They got a strongly worded phone call from Bruce I'm betting.

Re: The 45th POTUS - Donald J. Trump

Posted: Mon January 16, 2017 10:32 pm
by dimejinky99
Yeah don't look up project veritas. There is a way to protest. Planting a dirty bomb at his inauguration ball isn't it lads.

Re: The 45th POTUS - Donald J. Trump

Posted: Mon January 16, 2017 10:34 pm
by Norah
dimejinky99 wrote:Yeah don't look up project veritas. There is a way to protest. Planting a dirty bomb at his inauguration ball isn't it lads.
I just looked up project veritas. That's not what a dirty bomb is.

Re: The 45th POTUS - Donald J. Trump

Posted: Mon January 16, 2017 10:40 pm
by BurtReynolds
theplatypus wrote:Bruce Springsteen Cover Band Drops Out of Trump Inauguration Party

http://www.rollingstone.com/music/news/ ... ty-w461203
The inauguration party drama is non-stop hilarity.

Re: The 45th POTUS - Donald J. Trump

Posted: Mon January 16, 2017 10:54 pm
by dimejinky99
cutuphalfdead wrote:
dimejinky99 wrote:Yeah don't look up project veritas. There is a way to protest. Planting a dirty bomb at his inauguration ball isn't it lads.
I just looked up project veritas. That's not what a dirty bomb is.

It's the same thing though pete. And delegitimises genuine protest.
I'm probably coming from my own part of the world and knowing what leaving a bomb in a pub or at a party means so I'm hyping it up but I know this form of action doesn't work in favour of those in opposition to whatever it might be they oppose.

Re: The 45th POTUS - Donald J. Trump

Posted: Mon January 16, 2017 10:55 pm
by Norah
No this thing you're referring to is a stink bomb. A dirty bomb is a bomb that is packed with radioactive material. It wouldn't be a nuclear explosion but would spread radiation and poison people.

http://www.theepochtimes.com/n3/2210632 ... ink-bombs/

Re: The 45th POTUS - Donald J. Trump

Posted: Mon January 16, 2017 11:14 pm
by McParadigm
cutuphalfdead wrote:No this thing you're referring to is a stink bomb. A dirty bomb is a bomb that is packed with radioactive material. It wouldn't be a nuclear explosion but would spread radiation and poison people.

http://www.theepochtimes.com/n3/2210632 ... ink-bombs/
Also, it's pretty funny Veritas and others started talking about protester violence right after...

Re: The 45th POTUS - Donald J. Trump

Posted: Mon January 16, 2017 11:18 pm
by BurtReynolds
They'll break plenty of windows and destroy a few stores without the Right's help I'm sure.

Re: The 45th POTUS - Donald J. Trump

Posted: Mon January 16, 2017 11:24 pm
by McParadigm
You're clearly confusing the left with people of action.

Re: The 45th POTUS - Donald J. Trump

Posted: Mon January 16, 2017 11:27 pm
by BurtReynolds
I bet Trump is genuinely hurt that Bruce Springsteen won't play at his party. He probably doesn't even understand why, either.