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Re: Dark Matter (song)

Posted: Tue February 13, 2024 7:52 pm
by Strat
tragabigzanda wrote:I'm carrying a fair amount of brain damage about this mix, which is dumb, because in 10 years I'll be able to ask ChatGPT to give me "Dark Matter but it sounds like a band in a room."
I can't help but feel partially responsible for this. The last 12 months all ive done is hammer your brain about this stuff.

Re: Dark Matter (song)

Posted: Tue February 13, 2024 7:52 pm
by oneway23
tragabigzanda wrote:I'm carrying a fair amount of brain damage about this mix, which is dumb, because in 10 years I'll be able to ask ChatGPT to give me "Dark Matter but it sounds like a band in a room."
International bonus track: Dark Matter (Room Ambience and snare + or - 3db version)

Re: Dark Matter (song)

Posted: Tue February 13, 2024 7:54 pm
by coptheriotact
Coach wrote:I think they did a good job catering to RM demands:

1. No spritz

3. No word salad

6. Ed vocals hidden a bit
I really do appreciate these

Re: Dark Matter (song)

Posted: Tue February 13, 2024 7:54 pm
by Ello Sailor
Wow this thread sucks now. Good work, dummies.

Re: Dark Matter (song)

Posted: Tue February 13, 2024 7:56 pm
by Strat
Ello Sailor wrote:Wow this thread sucks now. Good work, dummies.
Hey

Re: Dark Matter (song)

Posted: Tue February 13, 2024 8:01 pm
by Birds in Hell
Farmer John wrote:I hope Spenno likes it.
I do - at least, I think it's OK.

I'm interested to see how I feel about it in the context of the album and I hope there's at least a few other songs that are more my speed.

I do wish it sounded more live and the guitars looser. Every phrase is very clipped, measured.

I would've made Mike's solo drier and higher in the mix, the reverb makes it sit back further than I'd like.

Re: Dark Matter (song)

Posted: Tue February 13, 2024 8:02 pm
by Hatfield
Ello Sailor wrote:Wow this thread sucks now. Good work, dummies.
Hoping for puns?

Re: Dark Matter (song)

Posted: Tue February 13, 2024 8:02 pm
by Ms Harmless
guitar_davey wrote:
tree_ wrote:I just wonder if people actually like Ed's voice as it is now, or if it's at least mostly because of their history loving the band, their investments and memories that have clouded their judgment. I wonder how many of you who claim to love Ed's voice in this new song, if it were the first time you were hearing this singer's voice, if you'd feel the same about it. I also wonder if I'm missing something. Maybe there is something in my brain that reacts to a frequency other people aren't hearing or something.
OF COURSE it's partly about historical context. Absolutely no question.

Does he sound older and weathered, with less range? Yes, of course! I'm just glad that he and the band are still a constant in my life as I get older. That's all I need. Honestly, I wouldn't be interested in any "modern rock" song by a new band at this point. None of this exists in a vacuum.
"you only love your wife now because you always did" is what the historical context argument sounds like

Re: Dark Matter (song)

Posted: Tue February 13, 2024 8:05 pm
by Farmer John
Birds in Hell wrote:
Farmer John wrote:I hope Spenno likes it.
I do - at least, I think it's OK.
:o

Re: Dark Matter (song)

Posted: Tue February 13, 2024 8:06 pm
by Jorge
Eddie Vedder is my wife

Re: Dark Matter (song)

Posted: Tue February 13, 2024 8:07 pm
by oneway23
Jorge wrote:Eddie Vedder is my wife
Lots of emotions tangled up in that one

Re: Dark Matter (song)

Posted: Tue February 13, 2024 8:10 pm
by DDWJMUVW
8-10 listens in.

It’s an absolutely solid effort. Has so many little things to love sprinkled throughout. My criticisms would be minor and only marginally detract from the overall “score”.

I wish the outtro was another 2-4 bars of just the chorus riff (no vox) and Mike scattering some licks throughout (but not a continuation of the solo).

Ed seems to lose the crisper vocal delivery on chorus 2, that he has in chorus 1.

I wish there was something more substantial after chorus 1 before verse 2. It’s a filler. Andrew should have pushed them here.


So many GOOD things in this 3:31. Pre chorus feels very binaural to me - vibes of grievance.
I have always wanted guitars in front of Ed, and they are finally louder in the mix. The palm muting before mikes solo is dreamy. Wish there was more write large. Ed largely stays within his comfortable register - this makes the song work well.

Bottom line: this passes the litmus test of being able to blast this for my buddies (we are early 40s) and feel confident. I got the same feeling from DoTC. Sure this is not as excitingly new and experimental, but I think they nailed their signature sound here as best as one could hope for 60 year olds 33.5 years in.

Love it, and can’t wait for the rest of Dark Matter!’

Re: Dark Matter (song)

Posted: Tue February 13, 2024 8:10 pm
by stip
Jorge wrote:Eddie Vedder is my wife
what's your secret for keeping things fresh?

Re: Dark Matter (song)

Posted: Tue February 13, 2024 8:11 pm
by Leatherhead
If somebody says "the production sounds like this" could somebody else say "no you're wrong, it sounds like this"? How subjective is the perception of what a particular sound sounds like?

Re: Dark Matter (song)

Posted: Tue February 13, 2024 8:11 pm
by Kevin Davis
stip wrote:
Jorge wrote:Eddie Vedder is my wife
what's your secret for keeping things fresh?
Bringing in Andrew Watt

Re: Dark Matter (song)

Posted: Tue February 13, 2024 8:12 pm
by RockPusher
Jorge wrote:Eddie Vedder is my wife
My ex used to joke all the time that Dave Matthews was her husband. His voice has also aged a lot.

Re: Dark Matter (song)

Posted: Tue February 13, 2024 8:13 pm
by stip
Kevin Davis wrote:
stip wrote:
Jorge wrote:Eddie Vedder is my wife
what's your secret for keeping things fresh?
Bringing in Andrew Watt
:naughty:

Re: Dark Matter (song)

Posted: Tue February 13, 2024 8:13 pm
by stip
stip wrote:
Kevin Davis wrote:
stip wrote:
Jorge wrote:Eddie Vedder is my wife
what's your secret for keeping things fresh?
Bringing in Andrew Watt
:naughty:
over 100,000 posts i'm sure across multiple iterations of this board and that may be the first time I used that emoji

Re: Dark Matter (song)

Posted: Tue February 13, 2024 8:14 pm
by Jaeti
"De/Re-nounce the demigods, king diamond to discard" – This lyric and its delivery are currently my favorite moments in the song.

Re: Dark Matter (song)

Posted: Tue February 13, 2024 8:14 pm
by Chris_H_2
RockPusher wrote:
Jorge wrote:Eddie Vedder is my wife
My ex used to joke all the time that Dave Matthews was her husband. His voice has also aged a lot.
warehouse: your retort?