Red Mosquito

stip wrote:

epilogue wrote:

digster wrote:I'm not sure there's any direct 1-1 comparisons between the band's records, but when thinking of Gigaton/Dark Matter, I think that the most apt comparison is to Riot Act/ST, which I think lines up relatively succinctly.

Well now that's interesting

It's a good comparison. I was thinking the same as well, but

A: I think tonally and thematically No Code and Yield is closer to Gigaton and Dark Matter. In both cases as well the second album is something of an expansion of the former, an extending outwards, whereas S/T is more of an intentional refutation/response to the headspace of Riot Act

B: It's more provocative to go with No Code and Yield

stip wrote:

epilogue wrote:

stip wrote:its an incredible record, but Gigaton (by design) doesnt feel major. its a little too long, rambling, introspective in a stream of consciousness kind of way - probably reflecting how it was developed. Its the No Code to Dark Matter’s Yield in that way

Hard disagree with the first part. But I have a feeling "major" is more of a taste thing than quantifiable in any real way. The last sentence feels right.

Though, I'd argue No Code is a "major" record (or feels so) while Yield is/does not.

It probably is taste. I was thinking major in that the records feel more statement making in their intent, even as they puzzle things through, whereas No Code (or Riot Act or Gigaton) feel more like you are witnessing something quiet, something smaller and more intimate, even if it is powerful and significant. Maybe major is not the right word to use. But Yield (and DM and S/T) are records that want to say something, and are letting you know it, and taking bigger, more deliberate swings. Aspirationally they feel bigger. Whether they hit the mark, how much they move you, etc is a different story altogether

digster wrote:Is this only talking lyrically? Because in terms of the sound of the record, I think Gigaton is probably one of the most expansive-sounding records they've done (with the caveat that an "expansive" sound or lyric probably means something different to everyone).

stip wrote:primarily theme but i think in the sound, too. maybe i am rethinking this through the prisim of DM but even the bigger songs on Gigaton feel a little more private. Wont Tell and Seven Oclock are both about dreams, and Wont Tell, a song about a more private experience than the ‘go out and make a difference message of 7oclock’ feels more like you are evesdropping inside someone’s mind. Wont Tell sounds like a rally.

epilogue wrote:

stip wrote:primarily theme but i think in the sound, too. maybe i am rethinking this through the prisim of DM but even the bigger songs on Gigaton feel a little more private. Wont Tell and Seven Oclock are both about dreams, and Wont Tell, a song about a more private experience than the ‘go out and make a difference message of 7oclock’ feels more like you are evesdropping inside someone’s mind. Wont Tell sounds like a rally.

Oh wow, we hear these songs very differently.

1. Didn't know they were both about dreams.
2. I'd flip your descriptions. Seven O'Clock feels way bigger to me than WT.

That's interesting.

stip wrote:

epilogue wrote:

stip wrote:primarily theme but i think in the sound, too. maybe i am rethinking this through the prisim of DM but even the bigger songs on Gigaton feel a little more private. Wont Tell and Seven Oclock are both about dreams, and Wont Tell, a song about a more private experience than the ‘go out and make a difference message of 7oclock’ feels more like you are evesdropping inside someone’s mind. Wont Tell sounds like a rally.

Oh wow, we hear these songs very differently.

1. Didn't know they were both about dreams.
2. I'd flip your descriptions. Seven O'Clock feels way bigger to me than WT.

That's interesting.

im pretty sire they keep sending us different copies of these records

Hypnos wrote:Imagine if this edit was the album version!

Hypnos wrote:Imagine if this edit was the album version!

Ms Harmless wrote:

Hypnos wrote:Imagine if this edit was the album version!

now we know what happened to Lightning Bolt