Re: I Feel Stupid And Contagious / A Nirvana Thread
Posted: Fri March 03, 2017 11:24 pm
by Wendy Carlos's Twin
fyfe79 wrote:Fair enough - I can certainly imagine Kurt finding the riff "raunchy", it has a slinky vibe (for want of better terminology). What are the other two untitled tracks from that era? It's difficult keeping track of what's what anymore.
Has anyone created a definitive "non-album" set, like the Radiohead compilation in another thread here?
Stuff like the "Lounge Act" out-take embedded in the box set dvd, the "Drain You" rehearsal from the LTSO dvd, "Horrified" from Dutch radio etc? I remember ripping various bits and pieces over the years but they're all scattered on various cdr's in my garage somewhere. Would be nice to have a uniformed set with matching artwork etc. Something like the Outcesticide series, I guess.
Actually, was the "Drain You" rehearsal in the re-issue box? Can't even remember anymore if it was a different take or not. Things are further complicated by the record company "remixing" certain tracks, and of course all of the Nevermind re-issue and WTLO being brickwalled to hell.
I made a set that collects all of the stray tracks from before and right after Kurt died - afterwards, everything is pretty much focused as a set except for the few stray things you mentioned, which probably wouldn't fill up a whole disc.
The "Drain You" outtake is a 4-track demo by Kurt, Dave & Dale. It is on WTLO with the "retards" intro trimmed off.
Re: I Feel Stupid And Contagious / A Nirvana Thread
Posted: Sat March 04, 2017 12:07 am
by fyfe79
Wendy Carlos's Twin wrote:
I made a set that collects all of the stray tracks from before and right after Kurt died - afterwards, everything is pretty much focused as a set except for the few stray things you mentioned, which probably wouldn't fill up a whole disc.
The "Drain You" outtake is a 4-track demo by Kurt, Dave & Dale. It is on WTLO with the "retards" intro trimmed off.
Is that the 2CD "Original B-Sides & Rarities" comp by JWB? If so, cheers! Just downloaded.
Re: I Feel Stupid And Contagious / A Nirvana Thread
Posted: Sat March 04, 2017 12:08 am
by Wendy Carlos's Twin
fyfe79 wrote:Is that the 2CD "Original B-Sides & Rarities" comp by JWB? If so, cheers! Just downloaded.
Yup. Only the alternate In Utero mixes are no longer relevant (better sound on the deluxe).
Re: I Feel Stupid And Contagious / A Nirvana Thread
Posted: Sat March 04, 2017 12:20 am
by fyfe79
I've been collecting Nirvana on and off over the years, but I'm mainly a collector/fanboy for an Irish band called Therapy? and my plan is to compile similar definitive comps. Well, tbh, I've already compiled them (and revised multiple times, as I'm sure you'll understand!) but am looking to create decent artwork in order to "release" them to the Therapy? community (yes, there is one!). Any recommendations for decent cd artwork programs?
Re: I Feel Stupid And Contagious / A Nirvana Thread
Posted: Sat March 04, 2017 1:26 am
by bada
Wendy Carlos's Twin wrote:
fyfe79 wrote:Is that the 2CD "Original B-Sides & Rarities" comp by JWB? If so, cheers! Just downloaded.
Yup. Only the alternate In Utero mixes are no longer relevant (better sound on the deluxe).
Is this floating around somewhere?
Re: I Feel Stupid And Contagious / A Nirvana Thread
Posted: Sat March 04, 2017 8:47 am
by fyfe79
bada wrote:
Wendy Carlos's Twin wrote:
fyfe79 wrote:Is that the 2CD "Original B-Sides & Rarities" comp by JWB? If so, cheers! Just downloaded.
Yup. Only the alternate In Utero mixes are no longer relevant (better sound on the deluxe).
Thanks a lot for this. Great artwork too - can I ask what program you use to create it?
Thanks! I use Photoshop to process the images and InDesign to do the layout/text.
Re: I Feel Stupid And Contagious / A Nirvana Thread
Posted: Sat March 04, 2017 2:21 pm
by Kevin Davis
Wendy Carlos's Twin wrote:
fyfe79 wrote:Is that the 2CD "Original B-Sides & Rarities" comp by JWB? If so, cheers! Just downloaded.
Yup. Only the alternate In Utero mixes are no longer relevant (better sound on the deluxe).
I've played this set as much over the last few years as I played the original albums in '90's, and it sits proudly alongside them on my shelf. Not to be missed.
Re: I Feel Stupid And Contagious / A Nirvana Thread
Posted: Sat March 04, 2017 3:49 pm
by fyfe79
fyfe79 wrote:Fair enough - I can certainly imagine Kurt finding the riff "raunchy", it has a slinky vibe (for want of better terminology). What are the other two untitled tracks from that era? It's difficult keeping track of what's what anymore.
A search of my HD found the entire '87 rehearsal. Forgot I had it!
Re: I Feel Stupid And Contagious / A Nirvana Thread
Posted: Sat March 04, 2017 3:50 pm
by fyfe79
ridleybradout wrote:
Thanks! I use Photoshop to process the images and InDesign to do the layout/text.
Thanks man.
Re: I Feel Stupid And Contagious / A Nirvana Thread
Link to the first ever UK interview with the band. Sounds magazine, 1988, written by John Robb of The Membranes. He also saw the band in Haboken, NJ, the following year at this show: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d626Z8paS7Y&t=325s
Re: I Feel Stupid And Contagious / A Nirvana Thread
Posted: Mon March 13, 2017 7:26 am
by ridleybradout
Kevin Davis wrote:
Wendy Carlos's Twin wrote:
fyfe79 wrote:Is that the 2CD "Original B-Sides & Rarities" comp by JWB? If so, cheers! Just downloaded.
Yup. Only the alternate In Utero mixes are no longer relevant (better sound on the deluxe).
I've played this set as much over the last few years as I played the original albums in '90's, and it sits proudly alongside them on my shelf. Not to be missed.
An update to the 'Original B-Sides & Rarities' set
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NIRVANA
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Original B-Sides & Rarities
Compiled by WCT
Artwork by WCT and ridleybradout
Updated March 2017
Fan Made Release - Not For Sale
DISC 1
01 Love Buzz
From Sub Pop 45 (SP23)
Recorded 6/11/88 @ Reciprocal Studio, Seattle WA
Mixed 7/16/88 @ Reciprocal Studio, Seattle WA
Produced by Jack Endino
02 Spank Thru
From "Sub Pop 200" CD (SP25b)
Recorded 6/11/88 @ Reciprocal Studio, Seattle WA
Mixed 9/27/88 @ Reciprocal Studio, Seattle WA
Produced by Jack Endino
03 Do You Love Me?
From "Hard To Believe: A Tribute To Kiss" CD (CZ024)
Recorded & Mixed Spring 1989 @ Evergreen College, Olympia WA
Produced by Greg? Babior
04 Been A Son
From "Blew" CD (TUPCD8)
Recorded & Mixed September 1989 @ The Music Source, Seattle WA
Produced by Steve Fisk
05 About A Girl
06 Polly
07 Love Buzz
08 Spank Thru
Previously Unreleased
Recorded 10/26/89 @ BBC Maida Vale Studio 5, London UK
Engineered by Ted de Bono
Produced by Dale Griffin
09 Molly's Lips
From Sub Pop 45 (SP97)
Recorded 2/9/90 @ Pine Street Theatre, Portland OR
Recorded by Drew Canulette w/ The Dogfish Mobile Unit
Mixed by Gary Held
10 About A Girl
11 Spank Thru
From "Sliver" CD (TUPCD25)
Recorded 2/9/90 @ Pine Street Theatre, Portland OR
Recorded by Drew Canulette w/ The Dogfish Mobile Unit
Mixed by Gary Held
12 Pay To Play
From "DGC Rarities" CD (DGCD-24704)
Recorded & Mixed April 1990 @ Smart Studio A, Madison WI
Engineered by Doug Olson
Produced by Butch Vig
13 In Bloom
From "Sub Pop Video Network: Program 1" VHS
Recorded & Mixed April 1990 @ Smart Studio A, Madison WI
Engineered by Doug Olson
Produced by Butch Vig
14 Here She Comes Now
From "Heaven & Hell" CD (Communion No. 20CD)
Recorded April 1990 @ Smart Studio A, Madison WI
Mixed June 1990 @ Smart Studio A, Madison WI
Engineered by Doug Olson
Produced by Butch Vig
15 D-7
From "Lithium" CD (DGCTD 9)
Recorded 10/21/90 @ BBC Maida Vale Studio 3, London UK
Engineered by Mike Engles
Produced by Dale Griffin
16 Even In His Youth
17 Aneurysm
From "Smells Like Teen Spirit" CD (DGCDS-21673)
Recorded 1/1/91 @ The Music Source, Seattle WA
Engineered by Brian Nelson
Mixed by Andy Wallace
Produced by Craig Montgomery
18 Drain You
19 Dumb
Previously Unreleased
Recorded 9/3/91 @ BBC Maida Vale Studios 4 & 5, London UK
Engineered by Mike Engles
Produced by Dale Griffin
20 Something In The Way
Previously Unreleased
Recorded 11/9/91 @ BBC Maida Vale Studio 4, London UK
Engineered by John Taylor
Produced by Miti Adhikari
21 Endless Nameless
Previously Unreleased
Recorded 9/3/91 @ BBC Maida Vale Studios 4 & 5, London UK
Engineered by Mike Engles
Produced by Dale Griffin
DISC 2
01 Drain You
02 School
From "Come As You Are" CD (DGCDS-21707)
Recorded 10/31/91 @ Paramount Theater, Seattle WA
Recorded by Andy Wallace w/ Dogfish Mobile Truck
Produced & Mixed by Andy Wallace
03 Been A Son
From "Lithium" CD (DGCTD 9)
Recorded 10/31/91 @ Paramount Theater, Seattle WA
Recorded by Andy Wallace w/ Dogfish Mobile Truck
Produced & Mixed by Andy Wallace
04 On A Plain
From "Nevermind It's An Interview" CD (PRO-CD-4382)
Recorded 10/31/91 @ Paramount Theater, Seattle WA
Recorded by Andy Wallace w/ Dogfish Mobile Truck
Produced & Mixed by Andy Wallace
05 Aneurysm
From Westwood One Promo CD
Recorded 12/28/91 @ Pat O'Brien Pavilion, Del Mar CA
Recorded by Andy Wallace w/ Westwood One Mobile
Produced & Mixed by Andy Wallace
06 Sliver
07 Polly
From "In Bloom" CD (GED21760)
Recorded 12/28/91 @ Pat O'Brien Pavilion, Del Mar CA
Recorded by Andy Wallace w/ Westwood One Mobile
Produced & Mixed by Andy Wallace
08 Oh, The Guilt
From CD Single (TG83CD)
Recorded 4/7/92 @ Laundry Room Studio, Seattle WA
Produced & Recorded by Barrett Jones
09 Curmudgeon
From "Lithium" CD (DGCTD 9)
Recorded 4/7/92 @ Laundry Room Studio, Seattle WA
Produced & Recorded by Barrett Jones
10 Return Of The Rat
From "14 Songs For Greg? Sage" CD (TK91CD10 TRIB2)
Recorded 4/7/92 @ Laundry Room Studio, Seattle WA
Produced & Recorded by Barrett Jones
11 Heart-Shaped Box (Albini Mix)
12 All Apologies (Albini Mix)
Originally From "In Utero" LP (424 536-1)
Recorded February 1993 @ Pachyderm, Cannon Falls MN
Engineered by Bob Weston
Produced by Steve Albini
13 Pennyroyal Tea (Litt Mix)
From "In Utero (Censored Version)" CD (DGCD-24705)
Recorded February 1993 @ Pachyderm, Cannon Falls MN
Engineered by Bob Weston
Produced by Steve Albini
Remixed by Scott Litt
14 Marigold
From "Heart-Shaped Box" CD (GFSTD 54)
Recorded February 1993 @ Pachyderm, Cannon Falls MN
Engineered by Bob Weston
Produced by Steve Albini
15 Sappy
From "No Alternative" CD (07822-18737-2)
Recorded February 1993 @ Pachyderm, Cannon Falls MN
Engineered by Bob Weston
Produced by Steve Albini
16 I Hate Myself And Want To Die
From "Beavis & Butthead Experience" CD (GEFD-24613)
Recorded February 1993 @ Pachyderm, Cannon Falls MN
Engineered by Bob Weston
Produced by Steve Albini
17 Moist Vagina
From "All Apologies" CD (GFSTD 66)
Recorded February 1993 @ Pachyderm, Cannon Falls MN
Engineered by Bob Weston
Produced by Steve Albini
18 Rape Me
From "SNL 25: The Musical Performances Vol. 2" (0044-50206-2)
Recorded 9/25/93 @ NBC Studios, New York City NY
Recorded & Mixed by Jay Vicari
19 Radio Friendly Unit Shifter
From "Home Alive" CD (E2K67486)
Recorded 2/18/94 @ Le Summum, Grenoble FR
Recorded by Craig Overbay
20 You Know You're Right
Pre-Remaster from internal promo CDR
Recorded 1/30/94 @ Robert Lang Studio, Seattle WA
Recorded & Mixed by Adam Kasper
21 Seasons In The Sun
Stereo Mix from internal promo CDR
Recorded 1/19/93 @ BMG Ariola Ltda, Rio de Janeiro BR
Engineered by Ian Beveridge
Produced by Craig Montgomery
22 Bullshitting & Rantings
From "From The Muddy Banks Of The Wishkah" LP (DGC2-25105)
Re: I Feel Stupid And Contagious / A Nirvana Thread
Posted: Mon March 13, 2017 2:50 pm
by matt reeder
Thanks! I've been listening to my own mix of these tracks for many years but this is nice since it includes the live tracks. And somehow only two versions of "Been a Son".
Re: I Feel Stupid And Contagious / A Nirvana Thread
Posted: Mon March 13, 2017 2:54 pm
by matt reeder
Wait, no "Gallons of Rubbing Alchohol Flow Through the Strip"? That's one of the weirdest Nirvana songs ever, and one of my favorite. It's completely nonsensical, but has some of Kurt's best and most unique guitar work.
Re: I Feel Stupid And Contagious / A Nirvana Thread
Posted: Mon March 13, 2017 2:59 pm
by Wendy Carlos's Twin
matt reeder wrote:Wait, no "Gallons of Rubbing Alchohol Flow Through the Strip"? That's one of the weirdest Nirvana songs ever, and one of my favorite. It's completely nonsensical, but has some of Kurt's best and most unique guitar work.
- It's a hidden track like Endless Nameless.
- It's available in a perfect mastering now as part of the regular "In Utero".
- It takes up a lot of space.
Re: I Feel Stupid And Contagious / A Nirvana Thread
Posted: Mon March 13, 2017 3:03 pm
by matt reeder
Wendy Carlos's Twin wrote:
matt reeder wrote:Wait, no "Gallons of Rubbing Alchohol Flow Through the Strip"? That's one of the weirdest Nirvana songs ever, and one of my favorite. It's completely nonsensical, but has some of Kurt's best and most unique guitar work.
- It's a hidden track like Endless Nameless.
- It's available in a perfect mastering now as part of the regular "In Utero".
- It takes up a lot of space.
The Albini mixes of "Heart-Shaped Box" and "All Apologies" are both on the In Utero reissue. "Gallons" was actually kind of hard to find for many years. I bought a copy of In Utero in Japan that had it but stateside it was not easy to track down for many years. I think it's more worthy of being on a b-side mix than alternate versions of two of their most famous songs.
Re: I Feel Stupid And Contagious / A Nirvana Thread
Posted: Mon March 13, 2017 3:22 pm
by bada
B-Side Collection is awesome thanks guys.
Re: I Feel Stupid And Contagious / A Nirvana Thread
Posted: Mon March 13, 2017 3:32 pm
by Wendy Carlos's Twin
matt reeder wrote:
Wendy Carlos's Twin wrote:
matt reeder wrote:Wait, no "Gallons of Rubbing Alchohol Flow Through the Strip"? That's one of the weirdest Nirvana songs ever, and one of my favorite. It's completely nonsensical, but has some of Kurt's best and most unique guitar work.
- It's a hidden track like Endless Nameless.
- It's available in a perfect mastering now as part of the regular "In Utero".
- It takes up a lot of space.
The Albini mixes of "Heart-Shaped Box" and "All Apologies" are both on the In Utero reissue. "Gallons" was actually kind of hard to find for many years. I bought a copy of In Utero in Japan that had it but stateside it was not easy to track down for many years. I think it's more worthy of being on a b-side mix than alternate versions of two of their most famous songs.
But it's the same story with "Endless Nameless", which was excluded from various pressings and technically a rairity. With the release of the deluxe edition, it is a permenent part of the album proper as it should be.
Re: I Feel Stupid And Contagious / A Nirvana Thread
Posted: Mon March 13, 2017 3:41 pm
by tragabigzanda
Re: I Feel Stupid And Contagious / A Nirvana Thread
Posted: Mon March 13, 2017 4:17 pm
by fyfe79
Is the improved sound of the alternate In Utero mixes the only difference between the updated version and the original?
Edit: Also see Aneurysm from Del Mar and Seasons in the Sun have been added, and GORAFTTS and the radio edit of SLTS and have been removed.