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Re: Election 2016
Posted: Wed December 09, 2015 3:34 am
by Stickman
Re: Election 2016
Posted: Wed December 09, 2015 3:54 am
by Simple Torture
Trump's rhetoric is dangerous, he'd be an awful president, and he's a piece of human hot garbage, but people need to lay off the Hitler comparisons.
Re: Election 2016
Posted: Wed December 09, 2015 5:22 am
by Norah
Simple Torture wrote:Trump's rhetoric is dangerous, he'd be an awful president, and he's a piece of human hot garbage, but people need to lay off the Hitler comparisons.
Yeah. he's more of a Mussolini.
Re: Election 2016
Posted: Wed December 09, 2015 10:34 am
by stip
Rank the fascists!
Re: Election 2016
Posted: Wed December 09, 2015 12:28 pm
by E.H. Ruddock
Simple Torture wrote:Trump's rhetoric is dangerous, he'd be an awful president, and he's a piece of human hot garbage, but people need to lay off the Hitler comparisons.
Also, trump didnt kill millions of people so there's that
Re: Election 2016
Posted: Wed December 09, 2015 12:44 pm
by Kaius
Yet
Re: Election 2016
Posted: Wed December 09, 2015 2:42 pm
by 4/5
Kaius wrote:Yet
The power of yet.
Re: Election 2016
Posted: Wed December 09, 2015 3:01 pm
by 4/5
Let's play "Which crazy or not-so-crazy person will the GOP will nominate?"
Here's my scorecard, but I don't feel very confident at all.
Chance of winning the nomination:
Bush--10%
Carson--5%
Christie--10%
Cruz--19%
Fiorina--5%
Gilmore--<1%
Graham--<1%
Huckabee--1%
Kasich--5%
Pataki--<1%
Paul--1%
Rubio--30%
Santorum--1%
Trump--13%
This was insanely difficult. My first time through it only added up to about 80%. I had to just keep adding numbers to people that I feel have little to no chance of winning. Part of my problem is probably having Carson and Fiorina so low. I originally had them both lower.
I still don't think Trump will win but it's getting harder to say that he doesn't have a real chance at this point. I think there's a good chance that one of the more moderate candidates (Bush, Christie, or Kasich) will make a push and end up a top 3 contender, but none of the three has given you much reason to believe that it will be him specifically. So I'd take the moderate-candidate-who-picks-up-momentum aka "the moderate who wins New Hampshire" over Trump, but at this moment I don't know who that person will be so I have to give Trump the nod over those three.
Re: Election 2016
Posted: Wed December 09, 2015 3:32 pm
by Simple Torture
4/5 wrote:Chance of winning the nomination:
Bush--10%
Carson--5%
Christie--10%
Cruz--19%
Fiorina--5%
Gilmore--<1%
Graham--<1%
Huckabee--1%
Kasich--5%
Pataki--<1%
Paul--1%
Rubio--30%
Santorum--1%
Trump--13%
"Who the hell is Happy Gilmore?
Re: Election 2016
Posted: Wed December 09, 2015 4:05 pm
by Norah
Did you just make those numbers up?
Re: Election 2016
Posted: Wed December 09, 2015 4:13 pm
by 4/5
cutuphalfdead wrote:Did you just make those numbers up?
Yeah, sorry that was the point. Guess I should have said that.
One edited post coming up.
Re: Election 2016
Posted: Wed December 09, 2015 5:02 pm
by stip
I would put trump at 35-40%
Re: Election 2016
Posted: Wed December 09, 2015 5:07 pm
by BurtReynolds
Stickman wrote:
Hitler never had his own tv show. Your argument is invalid.
Re: Election 2016
Posted: Wed December 09, 2015 5:07 pm
by Norah
BurtReynolds wrote:Stickman wrote:
Hitler never had his own tv show. Your argument is invalid.
yeah but they both wrote a book
Re: Election 2016
Posted: Wed December 09, 2015 5:25 pm
by 4/5
cutuphalfdead wrote:BurtReynolds wrote:Stickman wrote:
Hitler never had his own tv show. Your argument is invalid.
yeah but they both wrote a book
Who do you think wrote more pages of their own book?
Re: Election 2016
Posted: Wed December 09, 2015 5:27 pm
by 4/5
stip wrote:I would put trump at 35-40%
I just can't.
Then again, in 2008 I also didn't think that a black man with a middle name "Hussein" would win the nomination let alone the presidency.
Re: Election 2016
Posted: Wed December 09, 2015 5:48 pm
by dimejinky99
Over 250,000 people have signed a petition to ban Trump from entering the UK. He has extensive business interests both there and here in Ireland.
It has to go to the UK parliament for discussion after 100,000
Both countries have laws against hate speech and incitement to hatred. He'd be arrested if he said any of this stuff here. I'm embarrassed that he was given red carpet treatment when he was last here.
He wants to build a golf course resort.
Let's see how that goes.
Re: Election 2016
Posted: Wed December 09, 2015 5:55 pm
by 4/5
dimejinky99 wrote:Over 250,000 people have signed a petition to ban Trump from entering the UK. He has extensive business interests both there and here in Ireland.
It has to go to the UK parliament for discussion after 100,000
Both countries have laws against hate speech and incitement to hatred. He'd be arrested if he said any of this stuff here. I'm embarrassed that he was given red carpet treatment when he was last here.
He wants to build a golf course resort.
Let's see how that goes.
Do you support banning hate speech?
Re: Election 2016
Posted: Wed December 09, 2015 6:01 pm
by Green Habit
4/5 wrote:dimejinky99 wrote:Over 250,000 people have signed a petition to ban Trump from entering the UK. He has extensive business interests both there and here in Ireland.
It has to go to the UK parliament for discussion after 100,000
Both countries have laws against hate speech and incitement to hatred. He'd be arrested if he said any of this stuff here. I'm embarrassed that he was given red carpet treatment when he was last here.
He wants to build a golf course resort.
Let's see how that goes.
Do you support banning hate speech?
We had an interesting talk along these lines when the WBC case came down from SCOTUS:
http://archive.theskyiscrape.com/viewto ... ?p=3289970
Re: Election 2016
Posted: Wed December 09, 2015 6:06 pm
by Strat
This guy is for fucking real. Unbelievable
http://globalnews.ca/news/2389914/donal ... -internet/
Donald Trump has had a lot of opinions on how to combat terrorism lately, but his latest idea is the most perplexing.
The Republican presidential candidate suggested Tuesday that he could speak to Microsoft founder Bill Gates about simply “closing that Internet up” in a bid to curb people from being radicalised online.
“We have to go see Bill Gates and a lot of different people the really understand what’s happening,” he said during a campaign rally at the USS Yorktown in South Carolina.
“We have to talk to them, maybe in certain areas, [about] closing that Internet up in some way. People will say ‘Oh freedom of speech,’ these are foolish people. We have a lot of foolish people.”
It’s unclear what exactly Trump was getting at with his remarks.
Meanwhile, Twitter continues to search for meaning in Trump’s comments.