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Re: Star Wars: Episode VII: The Force Awakens (2015)
Posted: Thu November 26, 2015 5:30 pm
by stip
Strat wrote:"There has been an awakening" WHy is that clumsy?
It's not
Re: Star Wars: Episode VII: The Force Awakens (2015)
Posted: Thu November 26, 2015 5:33 pm
by stip
My two favorite shots we've seen so far remain the Falcon plowing through those trees and the look of abject terror on Finn's face when Kylo comes after him
Re: Star Wars: Episode VII: The Force Awakens (2015)
Posted: Thu November 26, 2015 5:34 pm
by Strat
stip wrote:My two favorite shots we've seen so far remain the Falcon plowing through those trees and the look of abject terror on Finn's face when Kylo comes after him
My poor daisy ridely is scared

Re: Star Wars: Episode VII: The Force Awakens (2015)
Posted: Thu November 26, 2015 5:34 pm
by stip
stip wrote:Strat wrote:"There has been an awakening" WHy is that clumsy?
It's not
Well it is insofar as mysticism is itself always going to sound like new age silliness unless you accept that it's real
Re: Star Wars: Episode VII: The Force Awakens (2015)
Posted: Thu November 26, 2015 5:42 pm
by McParadigm
"There has been an awakening" is such an empty calorie "ominous tone" line, without much substance to call its own. It's sloppy enough to sound like it could have been lifted from the He Man movie, or be a line that wasn't quite clever enough for Pirates of the Carribean. But that would actually be fine without the "uh oh, it's a dumb line so let's fake it" overwrought delivery. It genuinely sounds like it should be played over the loud speaker at a renaissance fair haunted house.
It's certainly not a movie ruiner, and I like the dialog in the "it's all true" moment to figure it cancels out, but so far the villains in this have sounded more Marvel than Star Wars, and I have no interest in that.
Also, if I am fighting for my goddamn life and someone says "ok, NOW give it everything you've got," that's the first guy I'm shooting next.
Re: Star Wars: Episode VII: The Force Awakens (2015)
Posted: Thu November 26, 2015 5:45 pm
by stip
Re: Star Wars: Episode VII: The Force Awakens (2015)
Posted: Thu November 26, 2015 7:14 pm
by dimejinky99
I finally see what stip means about impact. You can feel every hit and explosion. It's tactile and real. Something ALL the films lacked. You didn't care in the original trilogy cos there was usually a yahoo! Afterwards. But this feels right.
Let's just hope he's got the story and the actors can live in the parts in a believable way.
Re: Star Wars: Episode VII: The Force Awakens (2015)
Posted: Thu November 26, 2015 7:18 pm
by LoathedVermin72
I can't even tell if dime likes Star Wars
Re: Star Wars: Episode VII: The Force Awakens (2015)
Posted: Thu November 26, 2015 7:20 pm
by McParadigm
I'm pretty sure he's just a manic
Re: Star Wars: Episode VII: The Force Awakens (2015)
Posted: Thu November 26, 2015 7:25 pm
by stip
Watching this is like seeing special effects finally get in front of my childhood imagination
Re: Star Wars: Episode VII: The Force Awakens (2015)
Posted: Thu November 26, 2015 8:07 pm
by dimejinky99
McParadigm wrote:I'm pretty sure he's just a manic
Slightly. Ask me tomorrow and I'll say totally
*i love Star Wars. I just hate rm being so pre-emptively negative about it.
Same time I wanna reign in my own expectations.
Re: Star Wars: Episode VII: The Force Awakens (2015)
Posted: Thu November 26, 2015 8:11 pm
by stip
To be fair LV is the only person who seems categorically uninterested
Re: Star Wars: Episode VII: The Force Awakens (2015)
Posted: Thu November 26, 2015 8:21 pm
by southp
dimejinky99 wrote:*i love Star Wars. I just hate rm being so pre-emptively negative about it.
Not me! I'm all in.
Re: Star Wars: Episode VII: The Force Awakens (2015)
Posted: Thu November 26, 2015 8:50 pm
by dimejinky99
It looks like all the surface elements are in place. Trick is now to make us care about the characters and enjoy seeing Han Chewie etc again without it feeling like a cheap glue to make us interested.
Re: Star Wars: Episode VII: The Force Awakens (2015)
Posted: Thu November 26, 2015 8:53 pm
by dimejinky99
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Re: Star Wars: Episode VII: The Force Awakens (2015)
Posted: Thu November 26, 2015 8:53 pm
by McParadigm
dimejinky99 wrote:It looks like all the surface elements are in place. Trick is now to make us care about the characters and enjoy seeing Han Chewie etc again without it feeling like a cheap glue to make us interested.
Fully agreed.
Re: Star Wars: Episode VII: The Force Awakens (2015)
Posted: Thu November 26, 2015 9:10 pm
by stip
People may not have noticed, but McP is slowly and carefully walking back some of his earlier skepticism.
Re: Star Wars: Episode VII: The Force Awakens (2015)
Posted: Thu November 26, 2015 9:44 pm
by dimejinky99
stip wrote:People may not have noticed, but McP is slowly and carefully walking back some of his earlier skepticism.
See? All my reverse forceology is working
Re: Star Wars: Episode VII: The Force Awakens (2015)
Posted: Thu November 26, 2015 9:47 pm
by BurtReynolds
so its just a really shitty lamp?
Re: Star Wars: Episode VII: The Force Awakens (2015)
Posted: Thu November 26, 2015 11:32 pm
by McParadigm
stip wrote:People may not have noticed, but McP is slowly and carefully walking back some of his earlier skepticism.
If I had to predict, I'd guess this will be about on a level with that first Abrams Star Trek movie, except this time it will also have more than just the most surfacey properties of it's franchise.
So, fun and well constructed, but also weakened by a combination of over-reverence and sloppy storytelling choices.