Re: The 45th POTUS - Donald J. Trump
Posted: Tue September 05, 2017 6:58 pm
Does he hate Obama that much?
*not rich peopleStrat wrote:Does he hate Obama that much?
I think it's more about staying in office; this isn't a particularly popular initiative throughout the country, but he needs to keep his base to have any shot. And either this is what his base wants, or this is what he perceives his base wants.Strat wrote:Does he hate Obama that much?
I think he's just really anti immigration and does anti-immigration things (after winning an election where he campaigned on being anti-immigration).digster wrote:I think it's more about staying in office; this isn't a particularly popular initiative throughout the country, but he needs to keep his base to have any shot. And either this is what his base wants, or this is what he perceives his base wants.Strat wrote:Does he hate Obama that much?
Really? All the posts that I see on facebook are people with American Flag and Jesus avatars saying, "Good! Send them back!"run2death wrote:This is beyond the pale. Trump is such a fucking despicable person.
I can't believe any rational person would support this. Even my conservative, redneck kinfolk are appalled.
Once again Burt cuts right to the heart of it.BurtReynolds wrote:I think he's just really anti immigration and does anti-immigration things (after winning an election where he campaigned on being anti-immigration).digster wrote:I think it's more about staying in office; this isn't a particularly popular initiative throughout the country, but he needs to keep his base to have any shot. And either this is what his base wants, or this is what he perceives his base wants.Strat wrote:Does he hate Obama that much?
The guy is no strategist.

If they're married, doesn't that mean she can stay?McParadigm wrote:Once again Burt cuts right to the heart of it.BurtReynolds wrote:I think he's just really anti immigration and does anti-immigration things (after winning an election where he campaigned on being anti-immigration).digster wrote:I think it's more about staying in office; this isn't a particularly popular initiative throughout the country, but he needs to keep his base to have any shot. And either this is what his base wants, or this is what he perceives his base wants.Strat wrote:Does he hate Obama that much?
The guy is no strategist.
Fake! No way Trump would let Christie into his boat.BurtReynolds wrote:
FTFYBurtReynolds wrote:I think he's just really anti non-white immigration and does anti non-white immigration things (after winning an election where he campaigned on being an ignorant shithead that treats non-whites like dogshit).digster wrote:I think it's more about staying in office; this isn't a particularly popular initiative throughout the country, but he needs to keep his base to have any shot. And either this is what his base wants, or this is what he perceives his base wants.Strat wrote:Does he hate Obama that much?
The guy is a seasoned analrapist.
Non-citizens can serve. That's what makes this one particularly fucked upwease wrote:If they're married, doesn't that mean she can stay?McParadigm wrote:Once again Burt cuts right to the heart of it.BurtReynolds wrote:I think he's just really anti immigration and does anti-immigration things (after winning an election where he campaigned on being anti-immigration).digster wrote:I think it's more about staying in office; this isn't a particularly popular initiative throughout the country, but he needs to keep his base to have any shot. And either this is what his base wants, or this is what he perceives his base wants.Strat wrote:Does he hate Obama that much?
The guy is no strategist.
Wendy Carlos's Twin wrote:Really? All the posts that I see on facebook are people with American Flag and Jesus avatars saying, "Good! Send them back!"run2death wrote:This is beyond the pale. Trump is such a fucking despicable person.
I can't believe any rational person would support this. Even my conservative, redneck kinfolk are appalled.
The wacko is strong right now. You can't fight Satan.

that's completely fucked upBi_3 wrote:
Non-citizens can serve. That's what makes this one particularly fucked up
LA Times wrote:President Trump’s decision to rescind a popular program that protected the most sympathetic of immigrants here illegally — those who were brought as children by their parents — poses a huge threat to his party, forcing Republican lawmakers to choose between the party’s nativist wing, which strongly opposes any move resembling amnesty, and those who favor a more flexible approach to minority communities.
The terms Trump set out give Republicans in Congress six months to pass a measure to protect those currently covered by the Deferred Action for Childhood Arrivals program, known as DACA, which was enacted under executive authority by President Obama.
But Congress has been unable for years to come up with immigration reforms, in large part because of divisions within Republican ranks, which sank immigration reform efforts under Presidents Obama and George W. Bush.
The worst-case scenario for many GOP lawmakers: If Congress stalls again, next year’s midterm election campaigns could be accompanied by thousands of young people each week being fired from their jobs or kicked out of school, and ultimately by some being deported to countries they have not seen since they were toddlers.
Some Republican strategists fear that revoking DACA could repeat on a national scale the damage Republicans in California incurred by supporting Proposition 187. That 1994 measure aimed at immigrants living in the U.S. illegally turned the California party from one that was competitive, and often victorious, in statewide elections to nearly an afterthought, disdained not only by Latinos but many moderate white voters.
Countering those fears are warnings by other Republicans that legislation to renew DACA would be the biggest grant of amnesty to immigrants here illegally since the Reagan administration. Passage of a legalization bill by a Republican Congress would deeply alienate many conservatives, they argued. Already, some were critical of Trump for not canceling the program outright.
My point wasn't necessarily that this is something he doesn't want to do, but there is certainly strategy here that wasn't there at all in, for example, the original rollout of the Muslim ban, where he just did it and a shitshow ensued. The six-month delay and his continuous kicking the can to Congress, whether or not it was his own idea, allows him to say to the majority of the country that agrees with DACA that it's Congress' fault it's gone, while saying to his base that he was able to get rid of the immigrants.BurtReynolds wrote:I think he's just really anti immigration and does anti-immigration things (after winning an election where he campaigned on being anti-immigration).digster wrote:I think it's more about staying in office; this isn't a particularly popular initiative throughout the country, but he needs to keep his base to have any shot. And either this is what his base wants, or this is what he perceives his base wants.Strat wrote:Does he hate Obama that much?
The guy is no strategist.
They're deporting people who are US citizens so why not.wease wrote:
If they're married, doesn't that mean she can stay?