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Re: HBO: Game of Thrones (Song of Ice and Fire)
Posted: Mon August 28, 2017 3:20 am
by Monkey_Driven
Zantac Junkie wrote:Monkey_Driven wrote:cutuphalfdead wrote:Monkey_Driven wrote:The Winterfell payoff was great, but didn't completely justify the several episodes it took to get there. Littlefinger's reaction was perfect.
Yeah it seemed abrupt and unearned, even though I liked where it ended up.
Ultimately, we knew that would be his destiny. I just wish there was a little bit more built up to the payoff.
That could be the theme of this entire season.
Well, yeah. I thought the ending montage with the Jon reveal/coitus was predictable but well done. Also, Verb would love Jon's BMI.
Re: HBO: Game of Thrones (Song of Ice and Fire)
Posted: Mon August 28, 2017 3:27 am
by malice
Not a bad episode, i think most of my gripes have been pretty well summed up already, little uneven, little too summed up and poised for the final episodes, although i was pretty happy with the little finger scene.
Re: HBO: Game of Thrones (Song of Ice and Fire)
Posted: Mon August 28, 2017 3:33 am
by Monkey_Driven
I've been frustrated with Jamie's decisions in the past two seasons to stick with Cersei but it makes sense for him to go north to fight the wight. The same guy who killed the Mad King to save the city would march north.
Re: HBO: Game of Thrones (Song of Ice and Fire)
Posted: Mon August 28, 2017 4:17 am
by Mecca
cutuphalfdead wrote:Zantac Junkie wrote:cutuphalfdead wrote:You'd think Rhaegar would have thought of another name for his second son.
Both Rhaegar and Aegon were dead by the time Jon was born. I assumed it was Lyanna who named him.
oh yeah
i think naming their child would've come up in discussions. Also, she would be aware of the existence of Aegon as an educated noble, while her knowledge of the deaths is questionable.
Re: HBO: Game of Thrones (Song of Ice and Fire)
Posted: Mon August 28, 2017 4:42 am
by Zantac Junkie
Mecca wrote:cutuphalfdead wrote:Zantac Junkie wrote:cutuphalfdead wrote:You'd think Rhaegar would have thought of another name for his second son.
Both Rhaegar and Aegon were dead by the time Jon was born. I assumed it was Lyanna who named him.
oh yeah
i think naming their child would've come up in discussions. Also, she would be aware of the existence of Aegon as an educated noble, while her knowledge of the deaths is questionable.
The kingsguard outside the tower were aware. It seems likely that she was, too.
Re: HBO: Game of Thrones (Song of Ice and Fire)
Posted: Mon August 28, 2017 4:47 am
by Mecca
Zantac Junkie wrote:Mecca wrote:cutuphalfdead wrote:Zantac Junkie wrote:cutuphalfdead wrote:You'd think Rhaegar would have thought of another name for his second son.
Both Rhaegar and Aegon were dead by the time Jon was born. I assumed it was Lyanna who named him.
oh yeah
i think naming their child would've come up in discussions. Also, she would be aware of the existence of Aegon as an educated noble, while her knowledge of the deaths is questionable.
The kingsguard outside the tower were aware. It seems likely that she was, too.
maybe, but i think its just lazy writing on the show's part.
Re: HBO: Game of Thrones (Song of Ice and Fire)
Posted: Mon August 28, 2017 4:55 am
by BurtReynolds
This has turned straight up generic fantasy.
Why does it even matter that Jon is a Targaryen? He's just boning his aunt and becoming king anyway.
Whatevs.
Re: HBO: Game of Thrones (Song of Ice and Fire)
Posted: Mon August 28, 2017 5:00 am
by Mecca
a lot would need to happen for his legitimacy to even be considered. It can't just be "Bran and Sam say its true, so it'll happen"
Re: HBO: Game of Thrones (Song of Ice and Fire)
Posted: Mon August 28, 2017 5:10 am
by Monkey_Driven
No way Jon accepts being the king of Westeros.
Re: HBO: Game of Thrones (Song of Ice and Fire)
Posted: Mon August 28, 2017 5:11 am
by BurtReynolds
Mecca wrote:a lot would need to happen for his legitimacy to even be considered. It can't just be "Bran and Sam say its true, so it'll happen"
so? Why does any of this matter now?
Re: HBO: Game of Thrones (Song of Ice and Fire)
Posted: Mon August 28, 2017 5:21 am
by tragabigzanda
Steve Albini wrote:Whenever there's active promotion on the part of somebody else, whenever I see somebody all dolled up for a fancy photograph and someone's handing out flyers or whenever there's active promotion for something like that, as an imposition on my day, I hate all those people and I want them to fail. I have a visceral reaction to advertising and promotion. There's just something about salesmanship that grates on me on a very base level and I react very negatively towards it. I want those people to suffer and I want their enterprises to fail.
Re: HBO: Game of Thrones (Song of Ice and Fire)
Posted: Mon August 28, 2017 5:23 am
by epilogue
It's a good thing Burt is here. I was starting to feel really disappointed by the lack of complaining. It's like you guys can't even be bothered to try any more.
Re: HBO: Game of Thrones (Song of Ice and Fire)
Posted: Mon August 28, 2017 5:23 am
by epilogue
Oh good, trags here too!
I'll get the popcorn!
Re: HBO: Game of Thrones (Song of Ice and Fire)
Posted: Mon August 28, 2017 5:26 am
by tragabigzanda
Steve Albini wrote:Whenever there's active promotion on the part of somebody else, whenever I see somebody all dolled up for a fancy photograph and someone's handing out flyers or whenever there's active promotion for something like that, as an imposition on my day, I hate all those people and I want them to fail. I have a visceral reaction to advertising and promotion. There's just something about salesmanship that grates on me on a very base level and I react very negatively towards it. I want those people to suffer and I want their enterprises to fail.
Re: HBO: Game of Thrones (Song of Ice and Fire)
Posted: Mon August 28, 2017 5:30 am
by BurtReynolds
"someone has to tell Jon [before he fucks his aunt.]"
Welp
Re: HBO: Game of Thrones (Song of Ice and Fire)
Posted: Mon August 28, 2017 5:32 am
by epilogue
tragabigzanda wrote:I'm not complaining; I'm thankful to live in a world where my Sunday night includes sitting on my butt watching a show about dragons. But it wasn't a good episode, mostly because the season didn't set it up to be.
Re: HBO: Game of Thrones (Song of Ice and Fire)
Posted: Mon August 28, 2017 6:23 am
by kreng
jwfocker wrote:Season final possibilities:
- Spoiler: show
- The wall is coming down. Best way to end the season.
Arya kills Littlefinger. Thank god.
Sam, Bran, and Gilly discover Jon's real name. Finally get the Rhaegar and Lyanna flashback.
Jamie joins the fight against the army of the dead.
Well done sir
Re: HBO: Game of Thrones (Song of Ice and Fire)
Posted: Mon August 28, 2017 11:46 am
by jwfocker
kreng wrote:jwfocker wrote:Season final possibilities:
- Spoiler: show
- The wall is coming down. Best way to end the season.
Arya kills Littlefinger. Thank god.
Sam, Bran, and Gilly discover Jon's real name. Finally get the Rhaegar and Lyanna flashback.
Jamie joins the fight against the army of the dead.
Well done sir
I had a moment of clarity.
Solid ending to a way too brief season. All the pieces are in place for a epic series final. Can't wait but I have to wait for what, two years for this? Brutal.
At first I was confused with Jon's real name but I like it now, especially after revisiting the house of the undying scene. The "His is the song of ice & fire" quote from Rhaegar makes a lot more sense because he is speaking about his child named Aegon.
Also: Aegon VI was murdered. Aegon VII lives on. 7 kingdoms, 7 gods, 7 kings named Aegon
Re: HBO: Game of Thrones (Song of Ice and Fire)
Posted: Mon August 28, 2017 1:47 pm
by Bammer
Jorah knew they were gonna fuuuuuuck that whole entire boat trip. He tried but was powerless to stop it. Like a dad trying to stop his daughter from going to prom or something. Ha.
Re: HBO: Game of Thrones (Song of Ice and Fire)
Posted: Mon August 28, 2017 1:49 pm
by Monkey_Driven
At what point did Sansa and Arya start conspiring together? Some of their scenes in episode 6 were in private. Was that just for show?