Red Mosquito

Fattie_Vedder wrote:One thing that baffles me about this band especially over the past few albums is how do they tend to follow the same pattern with types of songs and the order that they show up on the album. Always open with 2 to 3 rockers, slow down, longer mid tempo, then the obligatory fast, punky song followed by an incongruent vibe shift to a slow, and sometimes cheesy schmaltzy song. Why has this become the formula? Who told them they need to have one punky song and one cheesy schmaltzer on every album, often one after the other?

One thing that was delightful about Gigaton is that it partially broke out of that mold. WES, though a rocker, is a different kind of opener. They don’t have a single punky song (I don’t think ND counts as punky), and I actually really like buckle up following TTLW. Closing on several slower songs was interesting too.

digster wrote:I get the appeal...he's this young guy full of energy, saying you're the shit, I could easily see why the band would be drawn to that. The funny thing is, he's been doing this for people like the Rolling Stones, Ozzy, Elton John, etc. It feels like the band's perception of itself is that they're even more of a dinosaur rock act than they actually are. Most of the people Watt's worked with have 20 or 30 extra years on Pearl Jam.

Fattie_Vedder wrote:One thing that baffles me about this band especially over the past few albums is how do they tend to follow the same pattern with types of songs and the order that they show up on the album. Always open with 2 to 3 rockers, slow down, longer mid tempo, then the obligatory fast, punky song followed by an incongruent vibe shift to a slow, and sometimes cheesy schmaltzy song. Why has this become the formula? Who told them they need to have one punky song and one cheesy schmaltzer on every album, often one after the other?

One thing that was delightful about Gigaton is that it partially broke out of that mold. WES, though a rocker, is a different kind of opener. They don’t have a single punky song (I don’t think ND counts as punky), and I actually really like buckle up following TTLW. Closing on several slower songs was interesting too.

Ms Harmless wrote:

Fattie_Vedder wrote:One thing that baffles me about this band especially over the past few albums is how do they tend to follow the same pattern with types of songs and the order that they show up on the album. Always open with 2 to 3 rockers, slow down, longer mid tempo, then the obligatory fast, punky song followed by an incongruent vibe shift to a slow, and sometimes cheesy schmaltzy song. Why has this become the formula? Who told them they need to have one punky song and one cheesy schmaltzer on every album, often one after the other?

One thing that was delightful about Gigaton is that it partially broke out of that mold. WES, though a rocker, is a different kind of opener. They don’t have a single punky song (I don’t think ND counts as punky), and I actually really like buckle up following TTLW. Closing on several slower songs was interesting too.

I've seen many people say they dislike Buckle Up, and the way Gigaton slows to a crawl before it finishes; I love it all myself, but I do see the argument that Pearl Jam can't win

Val wrote:https://vocaroo.com/1gOtuLFjam5X

Pretty sure the “greatest ever drum fill” from Waiting For Stevie is at the 2:52 mark

EBowie wrote:

digster wrote:I get the appeal...he's this young guy full of energy, saying you're the shit, I could easily see why the band would be drawn to that. The funny thing is, he's been doing this for people like the Rolling Stones, Ozzy, Elton John, etc. It feels like the band's perception of itself is that they're even more of a dinosaur rock act than they actually are. Most of the people Watt's worked with have 20 or 30 extra years on Pearl Jam.

I'm happy with the results Watt got with The Stones so I'm optimistic.

Val wrote:https://vocaroo.com/1gOtuLFjam5X

Pretty sure the “greatest ever drum fill” from Waiting For Stevie is at the 2:52 mark

oneway23 wrote:

Val wrote:https://vocaroo.com/1gOtuLFjam5X

Pretty sure the “greatest ever drum fill” from Waiting For Stevie is at the 2:52 mark

If that ends up being it, this will be the most embarrassing PR disaster since Tony Khan showed the footage of a backstage confrontation between CM Punk & Jack Perry

Val wrote:https://vocaroo.com/1gOtuLFjam5X

Pretty sure the “greatest ever drum fill” from Waiting For Stevie is at the 2:52 mark

Val wrote:

oneway23 wrote:

Val wrote:https://vocaroo.com/1gOtuLFjam5X

Pretty sure the “greatest ever drum fill” from Waiting For Stevie is at the 2:52 mark

If that ends up being it, this will be the most embarrassing PR disaster since Tony Khan showed the footage of a backstage confrontation between CM Punk & Jack Perry

Everything surrounding this particular drum fill is excellent though

Mike wrote:

Val wrote:https://vocaroo.com/1gOtuLFjam5X

Pretty sure the “greatest ever drum fill” from Waiting For Stevie is at the 2:52 mark

First time that I seriously listened to this. Does anyone else think the first song sounds pretty similar to Rose Of Jericho? dududu DINDIN dudududedede dududu DINDIN dudududedede

Fattie_Vedder wrote:

Ms Harmless wrote:

Fattie_Vedder wrote:One thing that baffles me about this band especially over the past few albums is how do they tend to follow the same pattern with types of songs and the order that they show up on the album. Always open with 2 to 3 rockers, slow down, longer mid tempo, then the obligatory fast, punky song followed by an incongruent vibe shift to a slow, and sometimes cheesy schmaltzy song. Why has this become the formula? Who told them they need to have one punky song and one cheesy schmaltzer on every album, often one after the other?

One thing that was delightful about Gigaton is that it partially broke out of that mold. WES, though a rocker, is a different kind of opener. They don’t have a single punky song (I don’t think ND counts as punky), and I actually really like buckle up following TTLW. Closing on several slower songs was interesting too.

I've seen many people say they dislike Buckle Up, and the way Gigaton slows to a crawl before it finishes; I love it all myself, but I do see the argument that Pearl Jam can't win

I can see that too. We all have different opinions and wants from the band, and those often conflict. For me, I want them to break out of their mould and be as creative as possible. We’ve seen some good examples of that recently. And working with Watt seems to open that up somewhat too.