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Re: What are you currently watching on TV?

Posted: Mon April 19, 2021 4:10 am
by tragabigzanda
Steve Albini wrote:Whenever there's active promotion on the part of somebody else, whenever I see somebody all dolled up for a fancy photograph and someone's handing out flyers or whenever there's active promotion for something like that, as an imposition on my day, I hate all those people and I want them to fail. I have a visceral reaction to advertising and promotion. There's just something about salesmanship that grates on me on a very base level and I react very negatively towards it. I want those people to suffer and I want their enterprises to fail.

Re: What are you currently watching on TV?

Posted: Wed April 21, 2021 1:05 pm
by lennytheweedwhacker
season 3 of Community

Re: What are you currently watching on TV?

Posted: Wed April 21, 2021 2:10 pm
by VinylGuy
tragabigzanda wrote:We watched the first episode of Mare of Easttown. Some clunky exposition dialogue aside, it doesn’t seem like a bad show, but...The wife and I agree we’ve about had our fill of this sort of poverty/misery porn. Not gonna keep watching it.
i started this one yesterday, and i like it.
I need to see where it goes with the crime stuff. But i also agree...HBO seems to need at least one show per year with a very famous star that shows us how awful and sad is to be a normal person. Its like they say ¨ey look im awful like you!!¨

Its kinda weird.

Re: What are you currently watching on TV?

Posted: Wed April 21, 2021 2:38 pm
by tragabigzanda
Steve Albini wrote:Whenever there's active promotion on the part of somebody else, whenever I see somebody all dolled up for a fancy photograph and someone's handing out flyers or whenever there's active promotion for something like that, as an imposition on my day, I hate all those people and I want them to fail. I have a visceral reaction to advertising and promotion. There's just something about salesmanship that grates on me on a very base level and I react very negatively towards it. I want those people to suffer and I want their enterprises to fail.

Re: What are you currently watching on TV?

Posted: Wed April 21, 2021 2:41 pm
by VinylGuy
The Mark Ruffalo one from last year was suuuuper depressing and poor guys his life sucked hard. And you got this huge celebrities playing they are poor and sad, its kinda mmmm weird.

I will watch at least one more from the new show, to see whats the crime about.

Re: What are you currently watching on TV?

Posted: Wed April 21, 2021 4:20 pm
by Farmer John
lennytheweedwhacker wrote:season 3 of Community
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Re: What are you currently watching on TV?

Posted: Wed April 21, 2021 4:26 pm
by Mickey
tragabigzanda wrote:
VinylGuy wrote:
tragabigzanda wrote:We watched the first episode of Mare of Easttown. Some clunky exposition dialogue aside, it doesn’t seem like a bad show, but...The wife and I agree we’ve about had our fill of this sort of poverty/misery porn. Not gonna keep watching it.
i started this one yesterday, and i like it.
I need to see where it goes with the crime stuff. But i also agree...HBO seems to need at least one show per year with a very famous star that shows us how awful and sad is to be a normal person. Its like they say ¨ey look im awful like you!!¨

Its kinda weird.
Yeah, True Detective, Sharp Objects, Mare, plus other shows on other streaming networks...it’s a genre now, call it “poor white trash who all do opiates and kill each other and sometimes molest each other too.”
Yeah wonder why there's a bunch of shows about poverty and drug use translated into the language of moral depravity and set in rural spaces in 2021.

Re: What are you currently watching on TV?

Posted: Wed April 21, 2021 4:44 pm
by tragabigzanda
Steve Albini wrote:Whenever there's active promotion on the part of somebody else, whenever I see somebody all dolled up for a fancy photograph and someone's handing out flyers or whenever there's active promotion for something like that, as an imposition on my day, I hate all those people and I want them to fail. I have a visceral reaction to advertising and promotion. There's just something about salesmanship that grates on me on a very base level and I react very negatively towards it. I want those people to suffer and I want their enterprises to fail.

Re: What are you currently watching on TV?

Posted: Wed April 21, 2021 4:52 pm
by Mickey
tragabigzanda wrote:
Mickey wrote:
tragabigzanda wrote:
VinylGuy wrote:
tragabigzanda wrote:We watched the first episode of Mare of Easttown. Some clunky exposition dialogue aside, it doesn’t seem like a bad show, but...The wife and I agree we’ve about had our fill of this sort of poverty/misery porn. Not gonna keep watching it.
i started this one yesterday, and i like it.
I need to see where it goes with the crime stuff. But i also agree...HBO seems to need at least one show per year with a very famous star that shows us how awful and sad is to be a normal person. Its like they say ¨ey look im awful like you!!¨

Its kinda weird.
Yeah, True Detective, Sharp Objects, Mare, plus other shows on other streaming networks...it’s a genre now, call it “poor white trash who all do opiates and kill each other and sometimes molest each other too.”
Yeah wonder why there's a bunch of shows about poverty and drug use translated into the language of moral depravity and set in rural spaces in 2021.
Don’t forget the part about their being available on premium streaming services, all starring millionaires
I didn't!

Re: What are you currently watching on TV?

Posted: Wed April 21, 2021 4:56 pm
by Farmer John
Wealthy actors should only play wealthy characters. I've always said that.

Re: What are you currently watching on TV?

Posted: Wed April 21, 2021 5:03 pm
by tragabigzanda
Steve Albini wrote:Whenever there's active promotion on the part of somebody else, whenever I see somebody all dolled up for a fancy photograph and someone's handing out flyers or whenever there's active promotion for something like that, as an imposition on my day, I hate all those people and I want them to fail. I have a visceral reaction to advertising and promotion. There's just something about salesmanship that grates on me on a very base level and I react very negatively towards it. I want those people to suffer and I want their enterprises to fail.

Re: What are you currently watching on TV?

Posted: Wed April 21, 2021 5:46 pm
by Malloy
Farmer John wrote:Wealthy actors should only play wealthy characters. I've always said that.
i've always said we need to get artifice out of art

Re: What are you currently watching on TV?

Posted: Wed April 21, 2021 5:50 pm
by Malloy
tragabigzanda wrote:Hey I don’t care who they play, but the viewer relationship with this sort of show is extremely boring and becoming slightly uncomfortable
i don't think you even need to go that far (to the viewer/beholder's relationship to the work). i think you can safely say that these shows are extremely boring, regardless of their sincerity

Re: What are you currently watching on TV?

Posted: Wed April 21, 2021 6:07 pm
by Malloy
more propaganda -- about how utterly fucked u.s. pharmaceutical companies are, how hollowed out economic prospects are in rural areas and cities, how drug dependency, overdose and suicide has and continues to rise -- is good and necessary (but insufficient to the problems we face).

but the representation of these subjects to make a moral argument doesn't necessarily result in great artworks. most of these shows are after-school specials that don't understand themselves as such.

Re: What are you currently watching on TV?

Posted: Wed April 21, 2021 6:38 pm
by tragabigzanda
Steve Albini wrote:Whenever there's active promotion on the part of somebody else, whenever I see somebody all dolled up for a fancy photograph and someone's handing out flyers or whenever there's active promotion for something like that, as an imposition on my day, I hate all those people and I want them to fail. I have a visceral reaction to advertising and promotion. There's just something about salesmanship that grates on me on a very base level and I react very negatively towards it. I want those people to suffer and I want their enterprises to fail.

Re: What are you currently watching on TV?

Posted: Wed April 21, 2021 6:40 pm
by tragabigzanda
Steve Albini wrote:Whenever there's active promotion on the part of somebody else, whenever I see somebody all dolled up for a fancy photograph and someone's handing out flyers or whenever there's active promotion for something like that, as an imposition on my day, I hate all those people and I want them to fail. I have a visceral reaction to advertising and promotion. There's just something about salesmanship that grates on me on a very base level and I react very negatively towards it. I want those people to suffer and I want their enterprises to fail.

Re: What are you currently watching on TV?

Posted: Wed April 21, 2021 6:42 pm
by Mickey
...zoning?

Re: What are you currently watching on TV?

Posted: Wed April 21, 2021 6:42 pm
by tragabigzanda
Steve Albini wrote:Whenever there's active promotion on the part of somebody else, whenever I see somebody all dolled up for a fancy photograph and someone's handing out flyers or whenever there's active promotion for something like that, as an imposition on my day, I hate all those people and I want them to fail. I have a visceral reaction to advertising and promotion. There's just something about salesmanship that grates on me on a very base level and I react very negatively towards it. I want those people to suffer and I want their enterprises to fail.

Re: What are you currently watching on TV?

Posted: Wed April 21, 2021 6:43 pm
by Mickey
Show me on the doll where zoning touched Rust Cohle.

Re: What are you currently watching on TV?

Posted: Wed April 21, 2021 6:44 pm
by tragabigzanda
Steve Albini wrote:Whenever there's active promotion on the part of somebody else, whenever I see somebody all dolled up for a fancy photograph and someone's handing out flyers or whenever there's active promotion for something like that, as an imposition on my day, I hate all those people and I want them to fail. I have a visceral reaction to advertising and promotion. There's just something about salesmanship that grates on me on a very base level and I react very negatively towards it. I want those people to suffer and I want their enterprises to fail.